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To burn my house down TRiGGER WARNING spiders

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moleymoley1 · 08/10/2024 18:42

As of last week I’ve been finding little black spiders everywhere in my house mainly by my back door and bathroom. They are tiny like money spiders but I literally have loads. I picked up my kittens bed and there was about 3 under there. I’m now worrying there was a mummy spider somewhere and has hatched eggs into my house 🫣 I’ve attached a picture for context

To burn my house down TRiGGER WARNING spiders
To burn my house down TRiGGER WARNING spiders
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Purplebunnie · 12/10/2024 16:20

Alltheyearround · 12/10/2024 16:00

oh bugger. Got a cat so can't use then?

I did use the spray and then read somewhere afterwards that it's poisonous for cats and I have two cats!

Most of the spiders I sprayed were up high and in corners of the room and the way our furniture is the cats don't really go near there so I think I've got away with it. The spiders definitely did seem to disappear

Funnily enough our downstairs toilet used to regularly be home to a couple of spiders but since we replaced the tiles with tongue and groove and wooden floors I've not actually seen any spiders in there - maybe they were recurring ones that had come to the end of their natural lives

So many things are poisonous to cats it's quite difficult, I just have to remember to not let them near any flowers I have and clear away any leaves, petals etc scrupulously

Edited to add "maybe we need to spray the outside of the house round door and windows to stop them coming in and that would be okay with cats?

WiddlinDiddlin · 12/10/2024 16:44

If you're going to use spray please keep it indoors - most things are pet safe once dry, check the labels though!

Outdoors, all the wee birds etc that eat insects and many other harmless insects who eat dead insects would be harmed by poisoned stuff... it also won't really help as the spiders you're seeing are almost all born and bred IN your house rather than coming in from outside.

You can put spiders out if you feel better doing that - they'll find shelter for the most part, some may get eaten by birds or other critters but such is life, they need to think fast and run, survival of the fittest!

pheee · 12/10/2024 16:53

I'll leave cellar spiders alone, quite like jumping spiders, transport others outside - used to be very much with the "never kill a spider" people despite having been bitten by false widows - it hurt, I sometimes felt a bit flu-ish for a day or so, but wasn't ever a big deal.

Then my cat was bitten, resulting in an emergency late night trip to the out of hours vet.
It started with her being unable to put weight on one front paw, then before long developed into her being very distressed, dribbling, unable to control her legs or bladder, or hold her head steady if she lifted it while lying down.
We thought she'd had a stroke or that she'd ingested poison, but the symptoms weren't quite right and the initial limping didn't make sense...until we found the dead false widow in her bed. She was most likely bitten while batting at it.
Turns out the venom is neurotoxic which is why her symptoms looked like a stroke. She did recover but was very poorly for a few days (and the investigations weren't cheap!)

Since then I've murdered every single one that I've seen on my house - not ideal but, even if this isn't a common reaction, I definitely don't believe they're completely harmless any more!

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 12/10/2024 16:56

LoudGreyBalonz · 08/10/2024 18:58

Just an old wives' tail, there's no truth to it.

Conkers do work if you throw them and can actually hit the spider. But it's not easy.

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 12/10/2024 20:06

pheee · 12/10/2024 16:53

I'll leave cellar spiders alone, quite like jumping spiders, transport others outside - used to be very much with the "never kill a spider" people despite having been bitten by false widows - it hurt, I sometimes felt a bit flu-ish for a day or so, but wasn't ever a big deal.

Then my cat was bitten, resulting in an emergency late night trip to the out of hours vet.
It started with her being unable to put weight on one front paw, then before long developed into her being very distressed, dribbling, unable to control her legs or bladder, or hold her head steady if she lifted it while lying down.
We thought she'd had a stroke or that she'd ingested poison, but the symptoms weren't quite right and the initial limping didn't make sense...until we found the dead false widow in her bed. She was most likely bitten while batting at it.
Turns out the venom is neurotoxic which is why her symptoms looked like a stroke. She did recover but was very poorly for a few days (and the investigations weren't cheap!)

Since then I've murdered every single one that I've seen on my house - not ideal but, even if this isn't a common reaction, I definitely don't believe they're completely harmless any more!

Oh my word, that is awful. Glad your cat recovered. I bet this is a really uncommon case, and I can understand your upset. I'm up north and I don't think we get false widows where I am. If my dog was ever jeopardised by a spider bite I would do the same, and for context, I'm vegan and a massive animal lover. For me it would be akin to fleas and ticks.

SinnerBoy · 12/10/2024 21:03

WiddlinDiddlin · Today 15:33

Big black shiny spiders -tube webs (segestria sp.) and steatoda grossa could answer that description, S. grossa is often such a dark brown as to look black

No, I know tube web spiders and mouse spiders. I've often wondered if they were non-native. I used to see them wandering about, which definitely isn't tube web spiders, which I used to feed with flies... we had them in the shed.

Caerulea · 12/10/2024 21:12

WiddlinDiddlin · 08/10/2024 20:42

Sorry peeps, spiders couldn't give a shit about conkers.

Most critters don't like things like lavender, peppermint oil, neem, tea tree etc - they're toxic to arthropods (actually they're toxic to most beings in sufficient quantity or inappropriate application), however mating season tends to over ride any of the deterrents.

You're seeing more spiders because its autumn and many spiders are now breeding, males out looking for love, running themselves into the ground to find Mrs Right Now I (Probably) Won't Eat You (literally they won't eat or drink in many cases and will cark it of exhaustion before they find their one true love).

I think your spider is Amaurobius ferox, male. Not a baby certainly, he has adult pedipalps (the boxing glove like jobbies in front of his face) but the photo isn't really good enough to tell more than 'its an adult male spider'.)

Spiderlings of most species, at the dispersal stage are absolutely tiny, head of a pin job, you'll barely notice them.

Hoover often. Don't have piles of stuff that the females of many species like to hide under, then you won't attract males (well, you wll unless you regularly lift the floorboards and skirting boards and hoover under those, a step most folk think is too far)...

Pesticides will kill them of course, leaving your home a veritable playground for all sorts of species that will trash your stuff and bite you when it wears off... but if you're scared of spiders that probably over-rides that issue.

If you can stand to, and have them, leave 'cellar spiders' (Pholcus phalangiodes if you want to google it to be sure, often called daddy long legs though this is just an example of how common names lead to misunderstandings as that name is used for opilones and a fly species too) alone - they will eat anything that wanders their way, including spiders vastly bigger than them (they really really like eating other spiders. And if their own numbers get too big they will snack on each other too).

My 'interesting' spider collection here has risen enormously since I started evicting the cellar spiders.

For those really terrified of spiders - move around and stomp.

A lot of our spiders (really, all of them barring the jumping spiders which you've probably never even noticed as ours are small and fairly dull) have really shitty eyesight, seeing just light/dark and movement.

They may appear to run AT you because you represent a big fixed object, your shadow offers what they believe is safety, so they run towards you to hide, not realising you actually represent danger.

Our big house spiders do the 'sprint and stop' thing because they have little stamina and are basically knackered and need to recharge, they're not plotting their next move as such or sizing you up as a potential victim. In a few weeks you may see more of this behaviour as they get dehydrated and fatigued in their almost always fatal hunt for a lady.

It is very very difficult for a spider to bite you - not because their fangs can't penetrate skin, most of the big ones can.

Its because their fangs lie flat against their underside, to use them they need to get above a small target, lift and then stab. Doing so to a large target like a human is like you trying to bite a chunk out of a double decker bus... extremely difficult, the angles are all wrong.

Humans therefore are typically only bitten when the spider is squashed against a person - so shake out duvets and clothing and shoes, and wear gloves if you're going rummaging in leaf litter.

Here endeth the spider lesson. Hang tight as they will all mostly bugger off over the next four weeks and most of the ones you see are destined to die of starvation, and those who survive and get to meet a lady... are getting all the joy of being an Amazon delivery bloke as spider 'sex' is really just them handing over a package of goo. Zero fun, and then death. Be smug you are not a spider?

Can I just say - this is a BRILLIANT post! I am terrified of spiders. Dead, alive, pictures, videos, anything at all, it's embarrassing. It makes it impossible to read or learn about them cos any article contains absurd images of the little fuckheads!

So that's the most spider content I've ever read & it was thoroughly bloody enjoyable 👌

WiddlinDiddlin · 13/10/2024 04:28

Thats why I've given the binomial names, so people can look them up if they want. but I've not linked any pictures.

Learning about spiders is what got me over a phase of being extremely jumpy about them - I still have issues with surprise spiders 'on me' and I'd far rather know where a roaming one is than not - my fear is me squashing them and then having 'goo' on me though, not that they'll harm me. I don't know why I care about goo, I have a dribbly dog and he gets goo on me all the time (which I don't like but I do love the dog!).

I think if you know what something is, what it's likely to do, why it's doing it, it's probably a bit less scary than not knowing all this stuff. It is for me anyway. It's no cure for a serious phobia of course!

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