Do Labour really know what they are doing??

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Reeves ‘drops plans for pension tax raid’

Chancellor reportedly abandons move amid concerns it could disproportionately affect up to a million public sector workers.

Since when has public sector workers become the 'Golden Child'?

I thought the pensions tax raid was just made up by the Telegraph anyway. Maybe we should all just stop speculating until, you know, the actual budget.

It will takes years to work out and understand the absolute fucking of our country that the tories did before trying to fix it it all

They have no clue. Neither did the last lot.

Don't know what the solution is.

I'd be amazed if they have it together by October 30th. When mps are being asked to vote on policy in advance of the impact assessments that result from them - as with WFA...and vat changes on private education costs seem to be built on sand but people have already shifted some children in to state to adapt around it, it all seems a bit arse first for my liking.

Given the timeframes for the OBR to check the figures on the budget and come up with their projections then the budget has been finished for some time now already.

All these stories in the papers are just mischief-making.

We'll see when the budget comes out whether Labour know what they are doing. Fingers crossed I guess.

Time for the daily "Bash Labour" thread, is it?

More like hourly. It is very repetitive.

I'm willing to suspend my disbelief. I'd be over the moon if the autumn budget demonstrates a calculated approach that doesn't haphazardly kick the vulnerable as a quirk of easy administration, for a start.

We absolutely did have similar for the last government.

The fact that Tory were bad doesn't make an excuse for Labour.

OP, to answer your question "Since when has public sector workers become the 'Golden Child'?"

They aren't the Golden Child, they are the only child. Private sector are annoying step children whose only purpose is to bring tax revenue in so Labour can squeeze as much as they can.

Of course mn has running discussions on politics, policy and how they land on people.

No, they are the group who make it possible for everything else to run (try running a business if your workforce aren’t educated, healthy, able to travel on the roads etc). Their pay and conditions have been eroded since 2010 in a way private sector ones haven’t. Plus they are the ones the government has any control over the pay and pension of.
Not the golden child at all. And last time I looked, public sector employees pay tax too.

Indeed. Reeves never mentioned it.

The trouble is that only lasts for so long. Shrink the private sector and the public one will follow

And the other way round. We have a mixed economy. We need both. Stop being so divisive everyone.

Since when has public sector workers become the 'Golden Child'?

Since about 25 years ago.

I think the wider question is: did all the people that voted for Labour know what they were doing?

Re Russian bot - I've seen it so many times posted by angry Labour supporters and really love it.

Do you know that this is exact tactic used by Russia? They claim that whoever disagree with them is a "foreign agent /spy". Most of opposition media channels (who work from exile now) are forced to put a banner on their materials saying that it was produced by foreign agents sponsored by malicious actors.

Oh irony...

Just shows low intelligence and inability to have a discussion

So true.

As much as, or more so than the last lot...

You do realise most these "labour plan to raid X" and "chancellor drops Y" headlines are just the media speculating in an attempt to generate sales and clicks, right? Until the budget has been delivered we're all just guessing but, that tactic works a treat with permanently offended right wing snowflakes it seems. I imagine the DM sees a huge spike in engagement with every anti-labour 'story' they make up.

It's also nice to see some groups other than rich, white pensioners being the golden child of a government tbf, so no complaints with that.

I think they're on a timer.

“Bash the government” more accurately.

Of course Labour lovers hate it. It was so much easier to carp from the sidelines and be in opposition. Now the boot is on the other foot and they’re not enjoying the greater scrutiny. Yet lapping up the freebies which they weren’t going to do.

Woefully under-prepared and losing a lot of their key voters with their pre-election lies now coming home to roost.

And a decade of Brown before that. They're both as bad as eachother - neither party have the remotest idea as to how to deal with the managed decline of Western economies like the UK!

Scrutiny? They've not done one budget yet. Are we seriously comparing complaints about 14 years of absolute shite with complaints about what the Telegraph says Labour might do? Oh dear.

No government ever really knows what they are doing

That’s why we have the Civil Service