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To be disturbed by Netflix 'Breeders'

109 replies

Overhype · 07/10/2024 11:10

With Martin Freeman. Is this bordering on abuse dressed up as acceptable parent burn out? It is supposed to be loosely based on Martin Freeman's own experiences? I'm sure it is exaggerated, but I an finding parts of it not funny at all. It just gets good, than an extreme "joke" is thrown in which is to me far too aggressive. I find Ally such a pathetic wet rag of a character, smiling and excusing her husband for his vile swearing rants at their children?
No parents is perfect, but there are certain parts of this that make me question how it even passed as a comedy. I'd imagine some parts of this would be triggering for some people who won't have a clue that they'll take it so far, and are expecting to see a comedic representation of "normal" patenting. It all seems to be excused by Paul saying he loves the kids, as if that cancels out his aggressive nature. When social services get involved it is passed off as being somehow over the top, when in actuality it isn't imo.

What do you think?

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scoobiedoozie · 07/10/2024 17:02

I agree OP. I felt the same and couldn't get through the first episode.

Mainoo72 · 07/10/2024 17:10

It’s awful & just not funny. I agree that it’s abuse dressed up as entertainment.

EachandEveryone · 07/10/2024 17:11

i imagine him to be like that in real life I’ve never taken to him.

Mainoo72 · 07/10/2024 17:14

30percent · 07/10/2024 16:50

It's not their dad though is it? He's an actor and they're actors and they know it's not real.
Thats assuming they're even in the same room when he is shouting and the directors haven't been doing some fancy editing so the children don't hear it.

Seriously this thread is ridiculous I was hit with a belt as a child and turned out fine (not saying that's ok) and you people think the actors are going to be traumatised because they heard sone shouty swear words.

Good god if you don't like it just dont watch it

People are allowed to discuss their views on a TV programme, it’s kind of what a forum is for. Get off the thread if you don’t like it & leave everyone else to share their views. Any reason you’re so particularly offended by this thread?

theresabluebirdinmyheart · 07/10/2024 17:14

EachandEveryone · 07/10/2024 17:11

i imagine him to be like that in real life I’ve never taken to him.

Yes apparently it’s based on his own parenting experiences so that says a lot.

theemptinessmachine · 07/10/2024 17:15

I've heard parents say worse in supermarkets and on the street. Not often but I have.

Frowningprovidence · 07/10/2024 17:21

theemptinessmachine · 07/10/2024 17:15

I've heard parents say worse in supermarkets and on the street. Not often but I have.

But did you laugh?

SaveItForTheBirds · 07/10/2024 17:28

Nobody's laughing at the abuse though? No one's watching and thinking 'haha, what a funny man verbally abusing his children' are they? The comedy comes from elsewhere.

Peclet · 07/10/2024 17:35

It IS slightly based on his parenting life @30percent which you keep skirting. Also very invested for someone who had never watched it.

c’mon, you’re one of the writers????

30percent · 07/10/2024 17:40

Mainoo72 · 07/10/2024 17:14

People are allowed to discuss their views on a TV programme, it’s kind of what a forum is for. Get off the thread if you don’t like it & leave everyone else to share their views. Any reason you’re so particularly offended by this thread?

Tetchy much lol I'm not offended at all just pointing out my own view on a discussion forum like everyone else 🤷🏻‍♀️

EmeraldDreams73 · 07/10/2024 17:52

We really enjoyed it as a programme, but absolutely agree that his character was a bullying twat to his kids, and Ally was a wet rag most of the time.

I didn't think for a second that it was autobiographical for Martin Freeman! He's an actor ffs.

I took the whole thing as a comment on where the line should be drawn on parenting, and how being middle class and "loving" most of the time (debatable in his character's case) shouldn't be seen as a mitigating factor. We did find a lot of it funny but were horrified at his outbursts at his kids. I don't see that we were being invited to laugh at that, so didn't have a problem with it. Plenty of comedies have other darker threads in them and people don't get offended by their inclusion.

offyoujollywelltrot · 07/10/2024 17:52

Going to have to watch this before I can make further comment. Monday night viewing sorted I guess.

Dogmatix34 · 07/10/2024 18:00

Completely agree. Had to stop watching, a shame because some parts were really funny. I didn’t find it relatable at all.

Fivebyfive2 · 07/10/2024 18:17

I agree op, I couldn't even finish the first episode. I've never really like Martin Freeman anyway, but this really made me uncomfortable.

I watch horrors, thrillers, grisly mysteries, various stand up comedy etc so I'm not usually a pearl clutcher, but honestly I couldn't stand Breeders. It wasn't funny, the characters were intensely dislikeable and it was basically abused dressed up as "lol isn't being a parent shite".

Peclet · 07/10/2024 18:17

Quick Google tells me different!

MF is a bit of a prick if that’s how he parents.

To be disturbed by Netflix 'Breeders'
DogClub · 07/10/2024 18:58

I've watched the first 3 series, I think there's a 4th?

MF character made no sense. Parents that are abusive like him don't really have the more caring side that he showed sometimes. At times it went too far and was just uncomfortable to watch. If it is based on his own experiences of parenting, then I feel really sorry for his children.

The mum wasn't great either. she allowed him to abuse the children and called the police when he and the kids were missing, so she believed him capable of something terrible.

It was very watchable but on reflection, it was very 'off'. Abuse made lighthearted. Very fucked up.

UnhappyAndYouKnowIt · 07/10/2024 20:01

I did find it distressing to watch and triggering at times. (Although I loved the grandparents).

My teen daughter loved it and encouraged me to finish watching the series. I could see why by the end. Things kind of came around.

offyoujollywelltrot · 07/10/2024 21:13

On first episode. Been laughing a lot.

Sorry OP.

offyoujollywelltrot · 07/10/2024 21:22

"Sorry, I tried to tire them out but I think I just made them stronger..."

💀

ELMhouse · 07/10/2024 21:34

I loved it! It’s clearly an exaggeration of the extreme but I liked it a lot. Watched it twice through now. Although the kids were pretty drippy if anything!

Overhype · 07/10/2024 21:36

offyoujollywelltrot · 07/10/2024 21:13

On first episode. Been laughing a lot.

Sorry OP.

Give it time, I laughed at first, then he shouted at the kids in fhe bath, and i thought a bit harsh, he has lost it, a one off. I didn't expect that to be the tip of the iceberg though, and be followed by much more disturbing stuff, such as a flashback of him shouting at his son as a newborn, along with so much more. The baby thing was awful, and at that point I thought this isn't funny at all.

It sort of lulls you into a false sense of security, then boom there's a disturbing abusive part.

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DogClub · 07/10/2024 21:40

offyoujollywelltrot · 07/10/2024 21:13

On first episode. Been laughing a lot.

Sorry OP.

There are a lot of funny parts and I laughed at a lot of it. He really is abusive though, he's not just a parent who sometimes gets frustrated at the things life with children throws at you, it goes beyond that which sort of ruined it overall for me. He actually damaged his children.

ThirstyMeeples · 07/10/2024 21:41

There were moments of humour and moment of real heart (especially with his parents) but both the parents are abusive and it was hard to watch. Him because of his total rage and her because she is unable to protect the children from him. If my husband ever spoke to our child like that, I'd have thrown him out.
And there's not much reflection on the programme about how awful and damaging the parenting is.

Overhype · 07/10/2024 21:44

ThirstyMeeples · 07/10/2024 21:41

There were moments of humour and moment of real heart (especially with his parents) but both the parents are abusive and it was hard to watch. Him because of his total rage and her because she is unable to protect the children from him. If my husband ever spoke to our child like that, I'd have thrown him out.
And there's not much reflection on the programme about how awful and damaging the parenting is.

I found it particularly tough when the parents were sat there debating on whether to take their son to hospital, after he badly hurt his leg due to social services. It made me feel sick. I didn't get far past that. I'm the kind of person to see things out to the end, wait for it to get better then think great I can't get those hours of my life back. I couldn't do that with this though.

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Cattyisbatty · 07/10/2024 21:45

Spoiler alert

I’ve just watched seasons 1-3 on Netflix (4 is in Sky I think) and I thought similarly to you. I preferred the later episodes when the children were older as he does try to redeem himself a bit/get therapy, but the swearing really jarred in the first series (and I am a big swearer but didn’t swear at young DCs).