To detest people that think they own beautiful parts of the world?

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I grew up in a very ugly and undesirable part of the country and now live in a tourist hotspot. I am becoming increasingly frustrated by people that are born and raised here trying to restrict tourism or stop 'outsiders' moving here. The houses are expensive here because it's such a lovely place to live but there isn't much employment except for from tourism. Despite this many locals that I know feel that tourism should be restricted as it makes the town extremely busy in high season. They also think housing should be subsidised for locals.

I feel that there are only so many beautiful places and those lucky enough to be born in them are no more entitled to live and enjoy them than the rest of us who by luck were born elsewhere. This would effectively condemn future people like me to live and visit only the less desirable of areas whilst my children could stay in this lovely area and be subsidised for doing so. It just feels incredibly unfair!

I think one of the problems you are having is the "locals" as you keep calling them can spot your feeling about them a mile off!

I would like to know if you have had this opinion since before you moved to where you are, once you moved and have developed it, or, as I suspect, something recently has happened?

Well, why would people that have lived here for generations, who have stayed because this is their home (not a ‘tourist hotspot’), welcome more people here who, like you, seem to want to change the fabric of the area that we have protected for so long?

If there's so many "incomers" you haven't protected it very well at all have you really?

That's not the point I was making. I was making the point that the word 'native' (in relation to the British Iseles) and Nigel Farage shouldn't be associated with one another. There are native languages, cultures, customs on the British Isles that are simply existing and doing their own thing for centuries. They shouldn't be associated with Farage, politics, ignorance or hate. They are removed from that.

Which is why Farage will be getting more than 14% in the next GE, loss of native culture is an important issue for the electorate and Farage is the only option for any who choose to express this

I have developed these feelings since being around local people that have become friends and thus speak candidly. I think I've been here for long enough now that they don't consider me a 'proper outsider' but I have become increasingly alarmed about how the anti tourism/anti outsider sentiment seems to be picking up steam. Most of these people are employed directly or indirectly through the tourist sector and most are unskilled with no desire to retrain or move to better their prospects. They expect a similar life for their kids and think they should automatically be housed in the area in the way they were.

Wouldn't you prefer they came and spent £50 with a local business than tax them £50 and them having £50 less to spend? Taxing tourists is a bad idea...

It's funny how this thread complains about locals being seen as charming yokels or Disney characters and yet feels it's OK to disparage 'every sodding tourist', who are 'like sheep'.
And people might, you understand, just possibly want to see places like Skye or Edinburgh because they feel that they are beautiful/interesting, rather than simply because they've looked a a picture of them on Instagram

There are a lot of lovely places which are not tourist hotspots. Many with housing available both to locals and incomers.
I think we need to sort out the housing situation in this country in much broader terms than tourist areas.

Ha what are you talking about? I wasn't aware there has been a long running civil war involving a British tourist hotspot. You haven't protected anything! People just didn't want to live in your area until now.

Yes. See also the Western Isles - in the summer months locals struggle to leave the island as the ferries book up months in advance with tourists. Yes, tourism is important to parts of the economy, but not to everyone. Lots of people are merely inconvenienced by it, and gain no benefit.

It seems to me that once one gets into questions of what is 'native' and how long certain things have been around, one is not removed from but inevitably in Farage territory.
Or, to put it another way, he is adept (as a good populist) at connecting people's feelings of/desire to 'belong' and to be from a tradition of some sort with their frustrations at lack of work/money etc.

People coming from other areas to do catering/cleaning work are not deemed to be essential workers, nor are they likely to have dependants in the area.
I think if you state you detest certain people, you can't be surprised if you antagonise them.

The problems, by the way, are not the fault of the tourists themselves, but with people in remote offices making grand campaigns to encourage people to visit areas where there is not the infrastructure nor the services to actually support them. The problem is also a general lack of spending on infrastructure. Govts see tourism as an income stream but aren't generally willing to spend what's needed to ensure that tourists are well provided for and that services aren't stretched past breaking point.

I preferred Durban for all the reason you outline above.
Grabs rucksack and rings kind cousin and aunt in Durbs.

Or one could say Farage is the one who is best at channelling people's anger and frustration about their lack of money/resources/opportunity, caused by years of terrible government, and turning them into anger about 'non-natives' ie immigrants instead.

We protected it very well thanks before the influx. Unfortunately we don’t have an interview process to keep twats out before buying a house here.

Well you allowed the influx didn't you? They didn't steal the houses from you. Could have sold to other locals if you all wanted to.

You do know how an economy works? The visitor pays the holiday let owner to stay. The holiday let owner pays the butcher for some meat. The butcher buys some meat at the abattoir. The abattoir pays the farmer for the sheep. The farmer pays the farm shop for some feed..... and so on.

Equally, the tourists subsidise the ferry, no tourists, no ferry for the locals . There is nobody with no gain...

The fact that you’ve got no idea what I’m talking about says it all. You don’t like the locals, well they probably don’t like you either.

This might sound very out there, but if your family have been living in a particular region for generations and generations, you will have both a spiritual and physical connection with that land. We have seen huge upheaval in migration, especially over the past 300 years. I personally don't believe it has been success worldwide. I know a man who was bored and raised in Chile (although his grandparents are European). He looks down on the country and has no respect for the natives. We are experiencing a worldwide identity crisis.

Please tell me how we can police house sales? People sell their homes in good faith and hope they’ll fit in with the community. And they don’t.

One could... but if wealthy incomers move to remote areas for that elusive sense of "community" they can't seem to find in the multicultural areas they're moving from - we can't exactly criticise those who are witnessing the dissolution of their communities, it's a legitimate concern and the idea that the mindless herd are being steered towards this narrative just doesn't hold.

Cohesive high trust communities have many benefits. And are easily disrupted. People of any economic strata would be sad to lose it

Exactly this; over tourism and instagram.......an unholy alliance...is ruining every beautiful, unusual, previously unspoilt place.

Equally, the tourists subsidise the ferry, no tourists, no ferry for the locals . There is nobody with no gain...

In Scotland that is just not true. CalMac which runs the ferries is publicly owned. Because it is essential national infrastructure. It's actually the Scottish taxpayer who is subsidising the ferry for the tourists.