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Husbands drunk on holiday...

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Unknown987 · 29/09/2024 16:19

So DH booked a suprise holiday for 40th to a very romantic destination...
Has a horrible history with alcohol. I don't drink and he knows how much I hate his drink. Don't realise how bad it was until after marriage...

I ignore he drinks with friends/cousins as it's out of my face but drinking with me and kids is a no go.
he has been drinking on holiday and when I have asked him not to he always comes back with I'm a grown adult you can't tell me what to do. Which is true but it's respect for your partner. but today he drank beer after beer and is now soo pissed I don't recognise him I can't reason with him. His eyes are bloodshot, he's changed our evening plans and won't communicate with me as he's not in his full senses. He has left the resort alone and has said he knows not to do nice holidays with me in future and will only stick to family ones.
I have asked him to come to the room and sleep it off at least talk to me but he won't. He's gone for dinner and I said I wish I was at home and he said so do I (wish I wasn't there). So I came back to the room and he left.
im so hurt I'm crying.
what now?

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DillDanding · 29/09/2024 21:26

What? Because he had one day of drinking 8 beers on holiday? You’d destroy his passport?

Dottymug · 29/09/2024 21:38

While I would never recommend destroying anyone's passport, this is about far more than 8 drinks on a holiday @DillDanding. Please read all the OP's posts before commenting.

LostTheMarble · 29/09/2024 21:50

diddl · 29/09/2024 18:41

Well for his culture & religion he shouldn't drink so it's not really unreasonable that Op doesn't want or like him to drink!

Many of us don't want to be in the company of someone who is a nasty drunk even if it isn't strictly against our religion!

But the moment something as normal as alcohol (for an adult) is made taboo, it can easily lead to bad choices being made. The more distain is shown, the more the op’s husband goes overboard. That doesn’t mean he’s not being a shit here, he evidently has problems with alcohol. But it also reads like the op expects zero drinking, and that is not for one adult to dictate to another based on the first’s personal beliefs. Up to 8 beers (highly likely watered down) on holiday is really not that bad in my opinion either.

IgoogledYOLO · 29/09/2024 21:58

Op, I've only read your posts.
I don't think this is right in your case but my dad would get snappy if he drank a lot and especially when he hadn't eaten. Turned out he was diabetic and alcohol would mess up his glucose levels badly.

This concept might give your hubby an 'excuse' to see a doctor.
I know a grown man should own up to his own problems and poor behaviour, but just an idea of you want to try a different approach.

TwinklyNight · 29/09/2024 21:59

This organization may help you understand what to do. At least you'll find support from others who understand.
https://al-anonuk.org.uk/

Dottymug · 29/09/2024 22:19

it can easily lead to bad choices being made. The more distain is shown, the more the op’s husband goes overboard. Really? You think she makes him drink? Was it the first wife's fault too?

TypingoftheDead · 29/09/2024 22:19

LostTheMarble · 29/09/2024 21:50

But the moment something as normal as alcohol (for an adult) is made taboo, it can easily lead to bad choices being made. The more distain is shown, the more the op’s husband goes overboard. That doesn’t mean he’s not being a shit here, he evidently has problems with alcohol. But it also reads like the op expects zero drinking, and that is not for one adult to dictate to another based on the first’s personal beliefs. Up to 8 beers (highly likely watered down) on holiday is really not that bad in my opinion either.

In my experience, an alcoholic is going to drink regardless of anyone’s opinion or concerns/boundaries. My adoptive dad was an alcoholic (and a few other relatives were, but dad’s was really the only alcoholic behaviour I saw so up close and personal, since I lived with him most of my life). Other people trying to stop him made it worse, but nobody making it taboo wouldn’t have changed anything, either.

LostTheMarble · 29/09/2024 22:28

TypingoftheDead · 29/09/2024 22:19

In my experience, an alcoholic is going to drink regardless of anyone’s opinion or concerns/boundaries. My adoptive dad was an alcoholic (and a few other relatives were, but dad’s was really the only alcoholic behaviour I saw so up close and personal, since I lived with him most of my life). Other people trying to stop him made it worse, but nobody making it taboo wouldn’t have changed anything, either.

But in terms of religion, making something taboo can trigger an overindulgence. Typically people learn to moderate their drinking, through lived lessons and maturity. If drinking is something you’ve always had to make ‘secret’ of course it can have lifelong effects.

LostTheMarble · 29/09/2024 22:33

Dottymug · 29/09/2024 22:19

it can easily lead to bad choices being made. The more distain is shown, the more the op’s husband goes overboard. Really? You think she makes him drink? Was it the first wife's fault too?

I’m not saying it’s the OP’s fault, I’m saying the more people have said to her husband ‘zero alcohol, it’s sinful/awful/against beliefs’ the more he’s binged. He has to recognise he’s now at the point where he probably should give up altogether, but I can see how he’s got here. He doesn’t have a healthy relationship with alcohol and he has a wife who judges him for having a drop never mind going ott. He has to choose which is more important to him.

CactusSammy · 29/09/2024 22:34

You could be writing this about my ex husband.

Yours should be an ex too. Living with a nasty drunk is hell, and you and your kids deserve better.

For now though, I would get your own room if that's possible, and seriously consider a divorce, as you are wasting your life with this man.

Gremlins101 · 29/09/2024 22:52

So sorry OP. Sounds like a horrible 40th birthday surprise. Make sure you plan something with friends when you are home 🎂

shuggles · 29/09/2024 22:59

@Unknown987 he has been drinking on holiday and when I have asked him not to he always comes back with I'm a grown adult you can't tell me what to do. Which is true but it's respect for your partner. but today he drank beer after beer and is now soo pissed I don't recognise him I can't reason with him. His eyes are bloodshot, he's changed our evening plans and won't communicate with me as he's not in his full senses.

Is it his 40th birthday or 20th birthday? I thought drinking like this was something we do in our 20s because of the novelty factor, then we quickly grow out of it and stop binge drinking by our mid 20s.

Dottymug · 29/09/2024 23:08

@LostTheMarble He's an alcoholic and he can't have a drop because it will never be just one. And that started well before he married the OP. How he got there in the first place doesn't really matter now - the choice to drink to excess was always in his hands. His alcoholism is not the responsibility of the Op or of anyone else. The OP needs to focus on what she wants to happen going forward. Can she live like this or not?

Tbry24 · 29/09/2024 23:08

Your husband is an alcoholic. He needs to address his problems and addiction and seek help. I used to work in pubs and know exactly how they switch, I do not drink like you because of everything I saw serving drunk men. Put me off of drink for life.

You are probably only noticing when he’s drinking more than usual but he is possibly drinking always, it will probably get to that one day.

I completely understand your worries and naivety as it’s not something you would have seen growing up and definitely do not want to let your children ever see again. You need to remove yourself and your children from this as it’s not healthy for anyone.

Also so sorry he has ruined a special occasion ….it’s usually how it is any occasion or family holiday or special day is ruined by the drink.

goodluckbinbin · 29/09/2024 23:16

So sorry OP. My Ddad was similar, and after a line in the sand from my mum, luckily chose us - his family- over alcohol.
My BFF also had a similar situation with her DH, she gave him and ultimatum when their DS was a new born and DH went off in a 3 week bender with the lads before coming back. Swearing to be clean, choosing his son & DW over booze etc. that was 15 years ago. He’s an exemplary parent, partner, friend.

It can be done. Your DH is not capable of moderation. He needs to decide what’s more important in his life.

smithsgj · 29/09/2024 23:20

It’s fine that you don’t drink at all, obviously. A wise choice. Find a partner who has made the same decision.

ConfusedMummy65 · 29/09/2024 23:25

I just wanted to pop by and send some hugs.

I grew up in a household where there was one parent who had an alcohol dependency. The choice was given, their children or the alcohol, they chose the later. As a child you think its normal, you do see the things the adults don't know you've seen (maybe not it all but enough) and peice together it when your older, or at least I did.

Please don't blame yourself, you are not "boring" you just have expectations of what is acceptable to you.

As a child of a parent who is an alcoholic, I can say removing them from the household when I was youngish (9) did help me, I saw a different household to what I always considered "normal" grew my own expectations of what I wanted my household to look like and what family unit I wanted, yes my home is not perfect, not the dream by a mile, but we have no shouting, more laughter than I ever knew and no alcohol, my dc have never seen myself or oh drunk. I may have a small baileys (and it's mini) at Christmas with my dinner but it is not a regular occurrence in our home and not something expected regularly.

I understand you worried about grandparents etc, but from the bottom of my heart please, they are not your responsibility to protect, if they shun your children, yes it will be awful but an unhappy mother, children being hidden from the truth will do more damage to your children in the long run. If your husband isn't able or doesn't want to accept help, then is this the life you want your children growing up with as "normal" and have the possibility of accepting for themselves when they are older and get partners? I am forever grateful of the big step my parent did for me, it was hard really hard but more than doing it for me, seeing the life my dcs have now fills my heart with so much pride that we both did it together to build a new future for the later generations.

Sorry for rambling on I don't usually post but it is something close to my heart.

CMC35 · 29/09/2024 23:41

Hardly an alcoholic having 8 drinks on holiday and being more of a nuisance than anything else, something else going on here or just clash of personalities. Hope you both can come to some resolution with this OP.

goodluckbinbin · 29/09/2024 23:48

CMC35 · 29/09/2024 23:41

Hardly an alcoholic having 8 drinks on holiday and being more of a nuisance than anything else, something else going on here or just clash of personalities. Hope you both can come to some resolution with this OP.

You have entirely missed the point. Someone with a normal relationship with alcohol doesn’t feel the need to abstain for months then get twatted and ruin a holiday with a loved one.
and EIGHT drinks is a lot.In say that as someone who does like to go out and have a few.

I have a teetotal friend and we go away for weekends. I might have a glass of wine but mostly I don’t, we find finer things to do .I don’t get drunk, accuse her of being boring and go off somewhere.
OP’ DH is obviously not holding his booze. more being respectful. He’s behaving like an inconsiderate, selfish man

goodluckbinbin · 29/09/2024 23:50

Not finer things, OTHER things that should be .. blooming typos

CMC35 · 29/09/2024 23:55

goodluckbinbin · 29/09/2024 23:48

You have entirely missed the point. Someone with a normal relationship with alcohol doesn’t feel the need to abstain for months then get twatted and ruin a holiday with a loved one.
and EIGHT drinks is a lot.In say that as someone who does like to go out and have a few.

I have a teetotal friend and we go away for weekends. I might have a glass of wine but mostly I don’t, we find finer things to do .I don’t get drunk, accuse her of being boring and go off somewhere.
OP’ DH is obviously not holding his booze. more being respectful. He’s behaving like an inconsiderate, selfish man

Fair enough I do understand what your saying and agree with you to an extent but i was just pointing out it does not make him an alcoholic, perhaps yes twat for having a few too many and ruining plans..I too would be disappointed but think it is an over reaction to be telling someone to leave their marriage over it without really knowing the marriage as a whole. OP have a relaxing night and hopefully you can reason with him in the morning.

Objectrelations · 30/09/2024 00:07

I was in a similar situation and had to leave him. I just couldn't handle the way I felt when he was drunk and like a different person.

CatLady22222 · 30/09/2024 01:01

First of all, you are not being unreasonable for feeling the way you do, and those that have voted otherwise, are off their heads.

I'm so sorry that your holiday has turned out this way and you don't deserve to go through this.

Unfortunately, people with alcohol problems are selfish and only they can want to stop. No one else can make that decision for them. As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't get it to drink.

I've dated men who've had alcohol issues and I've always ended up leaving them, as they never accepted that they needed help.

I understand in your case that you're in a marriage and have children together and so you've invested a lot more in to it, but that doesn't excuse his behaviour. Its selfish and unattractive.

I would definitely have serious words and would really consider whether you want to continue putting up with this behaviour. It will continue to happen if he doesn't seek help for it.

You deserve happiness and someone who won't put selfish addictions before you.

goodluckbinbin · 30/09/2024 01:28

‘Fair enough I do understand what your saying and agree with you to an extent but i was just pointing out it does not make him an alcoholic,’

yes it does. He’s okay when he doesn’t drink alcohol but when he drinks he drinks everything he can and is an out of control arsehole.
THAT’s an alcoholic.
No ‘off switch’.
Alcoholics who don’t drink alcohol don’t claim not to be alcoholics.-They know they still
are.

MusicLife80 · 30/09/2024 07:33

That’s an alcoholic OP, a binge drinker. If anything you spend your life on tenterhooks thinking when is it going to happen again. Soon? Then you worry about them going out with friends you think is the night they’ll drink or will they stay sober. Then they fall off the wagon again and it’s a vicious circle. I’ve lived it with my Dad I see my SIL living it with my bro. Just get away.

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