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To ask about your opinion on the RSPCA after Brian May resignation

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Meadowlands · 27/09/2024 21:36

He has resigned because the RSPCA's response to poor animal welfare was completely inadequate.
When I reported an animal in distress, they refused to investigate, and it was left to my local animal shelter -which is struggling for money - to come to the rescue.
I find it all extremely concerning. Does anyone else have any experiences?

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Prancingponies · 28/09/2024 07:48

Chocolate tea pot. I never call them for anything. There's no point.
It's well known by me and everyone I know that the local RSPCA horse centre shot 20 odd horses a few years ago for no real reason other than costs.

I have horses myself, I've taken on a 'loan' pony from the same yard because his owner wasn't feeding them in winter and when he did he was throwing hay just over the gate into mud. The pony in question has mud fever, a painful skin condition which gets worse when exposed to mud. But he had to choose to go in mud or die.
This guy has 3 other horses, big ex-hunters. We are waiting to see if he actually bothers feeding them this year. Otherwise I'll be phoning World Horse Welfare who DO act.
The kicker? We have an RSPCA worker from that local horse sanctuary on the yard.

bozzabollix · 28/09/2024 07:55

We’ve got a local animal rescue who is like an emergency service. They’re all vegan and care deeply about animals. So lucky to have them nearby as all I hear about the RSPCA are bad things. This rescue will do anything to save an animal, including removing them from dangerous situations with no thought to their own safety.

From what I hear it’s the independent animal rescues across this land who actually care, not the RSPCA.

Cartwrightandson · 28/09/2024 08:22

In 2022 the CEO of the RSPCA's wage was £162,217

pleatspleats · 28/09/2024 08:29

Blanketyre · 28/09/2024 06:31

Is there any way of eating cheese and milk without animal abuse? I'm vegetarian, have been for years, but I really don't want to become vegan. Thinking about it though

Unfortunately no.

animalequality.org.uk/issues/dairy/

Bruisername · 28/09/2024 08:30

Cartwrightandson · 28/09/2024 08:22

In 2022 the CEO of the RSPCA's wage was £162,217

I’m fed up of people saying ‘well if he worked in the private sector he would be paid that’ because with his skillset that is likely untrue unless he manages to jump on another gravy train role like the water companies.

WorriedRelative · 28/09/2024 08:56

They know fuck all about horses and are totally disinterested in them too. Many examples of them ignoring awful cases that end up being dealt with by smaller charities without the same powers or funding.

I would call the BHS welfare team or WHW if concerned about horses.

pleatspleats · 28/09/2024 09:01

Are there any larger animal charities worth donating to?

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 28/09/2024 09:02

They’re a shower of shit I loathe them. The general public are gaslight by them.

NDerbys32 · 28/09/2024 09:02

In a previous world we had many dealings with the RSPCA. With the exception of one notable Inspector, all 'not in our remit' and hard to deal with. I have family in the vet world and they don't rate them either, after years of professional involvement. They could, and should, be so much better and making too much from the emotional pull of their work rather than outcomes.

WitchesCauldron · 28/09/2024 09:16

Meadowlands · 27/09/2024 21:36

He has resigned because the RSPCA's response to poor animal welfare was completely inadequate.
When I reported an animal in distress, they refused to investigate, and it was left to my local animal shelter -which is struggling for money - to come to the rescue.
I find it all extremely concerning. Does anyone else have any experiences?

Good for Brian May. I hope Chris Packham follows suit. If you've seen the footage obtained on RSPCA assured farms ( it's horrific be warned) you'll know they are basically condoning cruelty to animals.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 28/09/2024 09:16

I haven’t given them a penny since years ago when a dd found a stray dog (that had almost certainly been abandoned) and was very hungry and frightened. She was a student at the time, in student accomm. and couldn’t keep it except just overnight, but then took it to the RSPCA, telling them NOT to put it to sleep, she’d find a home for it.

Some days later phoned to find out how it was doing - they had already put it to sleep, telling her it ‘wasn’t suitable’ for rehoming. She was distraught, said there’d been nothing wrong with it except that it was distressed and frightened.

WingsofRain · 28/09/2024 09:18

The RSPCA are useless and awful, but I’d like to agree with what PPs have said about the SSPCA. They are truly evil.
I’m sure that there are plenty of decent volunteers on a local level but the organisation as a whole isn’t.

Putonyourredshoesanddancetheblues · 28/09/2024 09:23

I love that Brian May walked away. I think a lot of celebs just want to be the face of something and don’t really care about what it stands for.

WitchesCauldron · 28/09/2024 09:25

pleatspleats · 28/09/2024 08:29

Absolutely horrific

DyslexicPoster · 28/09/2024 09:29

They only care about cases where they can make the news ie big resue efforts of horses stuck in mud where is clear case for neglect ( but never the sort of people who drive horses and carts along A roads punching the terrified horses in front of everyone).

I phoned them when someone was picking up pigeons in London and ripping their wings off. Lots,of mutilated birds dieing in the street. They laughed and asked what I expected them to do? I called the police to stop him but no one could help the birds just laying all over the place. A shovel would have helped. But wouldn't have looked good. Better to turn a blind eye than get a bad snap.

I don't know what point they have? None

HellsAngel81 · 28/09/2024 09:47

I've only had positive experiences with the RSPCA, and through my job, have worked closely with them in the past.

Our local inspectors and AWO/ACO are hardworking, and compassionate people. But they are very thinly stretched and in recent years, have had staff cuts which has resulted in increased workload for those remaining.

Mind you, our local branch don't recieve funding from headquarters, and are expected to raise all money themselves - which they do, and are more than happy to fund medical expenses for the animals in their care.

Seems like the rot is at the top (like most large companies/charities).

Bruisername · 28/09/2024 09:51

HellsAngel81 · 28/09/2024 09:47

I've only had positive experiences with the RSPCA, and through my job, have worked closely with them in the past.

Our local inspectors and AWO/ACO are hardworking, and compassionate people. But they are very thinly stretched and in recent years, have had staff cuts which has resulted in increased workload for those remaining.

Mind you, our local branch don't recieve funding from headquarters, and are expected to raise all money themselves - which they do, and are more than happy to fund medical expenses for the animals in their care.

Seems like the rot is at the top (like most large companies/charities).

So all the money going in centrally via the tv ads etc isn’t necessarily going to the work on the ground?

the one inspector I met was a nasty bully tbh and seemed to enjoy upsetting my 5yo!! I hope she was an exception!!

PadstowGirl · 28/09/2024 09:54

We live rurally and when I contacted them for advice regarding a fox stuck in our chain link fence their advice to us was to find a local farmer who can shoot it and put it out of its misery. 😯

We managed to free it, took it to a local wildlife rehab centre and it was eventually released.

HoppityBun · 28/09/2024 09:55

DyslexicPoster · 28/09/2024 09:29

They only care about cases where they can make the news ie big resue efforts of horses stuck in mud where is clear case for neglect ( but never the sort of people who drive horses and carts along A roads punching the terrified horses in front of everyone).

I phoned them when someone was picking up pigeons in London and ripping their wings off. Lots,of mutilated birds dieing in the street. They laughed and asked what I expected them to do? I called the police to stop him but no one could help the birds just laying all over the place. A shovel would have helped. But wouldn't have looked good. Better to turn a blind eye than get a bad snap.

I don't know what point they have? None

That’s horrific and must have been unbearably distressing for you

Feckedupbundle · 28/09/2024 10:04

Cartwrightandson · 28/09/2024 06:59

Yes! Absolutely useless, their adverts/marketing/pr shows them as animal heros but they are terrible.

First time in 2012 reported a feral cat in the top part of a shed had given birth to 3 kittens, they didn't do anything until one of the kittens fell and smashed both back legs and had to be pts, the other cats were dealt with by a local cats protection charity. The cats were feral and we couldn't get near them without being attacked.

A few months ago, 2 horses were put into a child's play park, with no water, one horses eye was red/swollen/oozing and the horses could get out onto a main road. The police, rspca, local city and county council wouldn't do a thing. They all palmed off to someone else, rspca said the police, police said try council, council said try rspca.... absolutely useless!!

I've had this experience too. We had an issue with traveller's horses getting into an unlit B road with switchback hills and a 60mph speed limit. RSPCA and police both passed the buck until a caller asked for the badge number of the officer who wouldn't help,so when there inevitably was an accident,it could be proved that it has been called in. All of a sudden they COULD help.
Anyone concerned about the welfare of a horse is better off contacting World Horse Welfare. They are very responsive and do attend. For farm animals,chickens ect,even if kept domestically,APHA are useful and will investigate concerns.

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 28/09/2024 10:05

Bgfe · 28/09/2024 07:06

I see them as existing to raise funds and make adverts and run themselves.

One of the big charities to avoid giving to.

They literally only seem to use the pretext of caring for animals to get the donations in - they don't actually care about them.

They know that, if they just asked for money "because we love money and want to keep our organisation and well-paid jobs going", they wouldn't get a penny.

If you want to run a profitable business, go right ahead; but don't try to guilt people into giving you money on false pretences. Apple are a hugely successful company because they offer phones and other tech that millions of people are clamouring for of their own freewill; but they don't get all of their billions in by claiming to be anything other than a business that you freely choose to use (or not) because you want something from them (an iPhone) and they want something from you (your money).

VickyEadieofThigh · 28/09/2024 10:10

Howmanyusernames123 · 27/09/2024 22:01

I actually had a good experience with the rspca who came and cut a fox loose who’d got caught in next doors netting

having said that I think their strength is in the legal side of animal welfare- the actual prosecuting and convicting humans who cause suffering.

they should ditch the other side as there are plenty of other services that will do that, and from pp it would seem they know that and offload that side anyway.

stick to what they’re good at- lawyers, court and criminal cases involving animals.

What's especially annoying, however, is that their TV ads only show them apparently doing exactly the things pp have made clear that the RSPCA consistently refuse to do nowadays. Emotive scenes of them rescuing neglected dogs and cats, etc.

I stopped trusting them years ago for exactly the reasons pp have described.

TheFormidableMrsC · 28/09/2024 10:12

The RSPCA are utterly useless. Despite being presented with pictures of clear animal abuse and mistreatment, animals with bones clearly visible and some dead, they decided the care was adequate and wouldn't investigate. They could not be arsed. Made all the excuses under the sun. I think they are despicable. They then had the audacity to ask me to donate.

theresabluebirdinmyheart · 28/09/2024 10:13

GraceAnatomy · 27/09/2024 23:57

This post is a bit of a read, and refers to RSPCA's evil twin the SSPCA.

In spring of 2011 I found a very skinny cat with matted fur, she was so tiny and severly underweight and had numerous huge matted patches all over her fur, she was a sorry sight. No chip, no tag on her collar and despite trawling through the web searching for posts that were about a missing cat, couldn't locate the owner.

I kept her safe and fed her, cleared out the shed for a temporary home and I called SSPCA. There was no way I could take her into my house as she had fleas, I already had a cat so I couldn't risk a flea infestation in my house, so it was the shed or nothing. Anyway, a woman from SSPCA came the following afternoon, took a look at her and said "She's wearing a collar so she must belong to someone. Let her go to find her way home" that was it. She left with an air of arrogance which made me feel like I had done the wrong thing to even call them. And the collar that she had on looked like it was about to disintegrate.

I am not exagerating, but if you ran your hand to stroke her you could feel every bone, I counted 18 matted patches. I nicknamed her Orphan Annie. Friendliest and affectionate personality. She was awesome.

I contacted a cat rescue who said to bring her to us, but they couldn't take her for a few days. I felt so guilty that i couldnt take her inside, she had shelter, food, water in my shed which was better than the alternative of roaming with a hungry belly. I couldn't let her go with no intervention to get her help, but the rescue reassured me that the shed would be fine temporary accommodation.

When in the care of the cat rescue they had her assessed by their vet, she had lots of missing teeth, gum disease, malnourished and was an elderly cat aged around 14 years old. The x-rays showed she had broken bones in 2 of her front legs which hadn't healed properly so her paws were pointing at a slight angle. They dealt with the fleas, the matted fur and a food plan to help her gain weight. She had a scar which showed she was previously speyed.

Despite all the attempts to find an owner, still no-one came forward. So I went back to cat rescue and brought wee Annie home. She got on brilliantly with my cat and they bonded practically straight away.

In the Autumn, nesrly 6 months after finding her, I received a visit from the SSPCA who stood on my doorstep and accused me of mistreating and starving my cat. The obnoxious fool of an officer threated that she was now investigating me and she would remove all pets from my care if she seen any sign of neglect. Annie was gaining weight but being an elderly cat with a rocky past she did look frail but she was loved and adored, she was definitely heavier, groomed and an absolute joy to own.

I was called a liar as she did not believe that I had ever contacted them about her. Apparently there was no record of me calling or their visit/refusal to help me. I gave them the details of the cat rescue and told her to go do thorough research before ever coming back to my door again.

Cat rescue verified everything and I received a note through my letterbox from SSPCA saying that no further action would be taken. She didn't even have the decency to speak to me in person. Just snuck up like a fucking ninja to shove a pissy wee note with no apology like a coward.

Annie lived with us for 3 years and 5 months until she passed away peacefully in my arms. I don't know what happened to her before coming into my life but I made sure that she had more love and attention to make up for her crappy stray life.

I will never ever donate a penny to them, in my opinion they are absolute despicable cretins.

This is awful, I’m shocked as I’ve recently had a very good experience with the SSPCA.
Just yesterday I noticed a cat sleeping in my garden, I thought the poor thing was dead as she had flies crawling on her but when I went close she moved and I saw she had a broken leg and squashed tail, obviously been run over.
i called SSPCA and officer was out in half an hour tops, she had been reported missing and owner came rushing round to collect her, everyone at Sspca was so pleasant and concerned for poor little cat.
However someone I know called them when a seagull was stuck in barbed wire fence and they weren’t interested. The poor bird was still alive.

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 28/09/2024 10:13

Bruisername · 28/09/2024 08:30

I’m fed up of people saying ‘well if he worked in the private sector he would be paid that’ because with his skillset that is likely untrue unless he manages to jump on another gravy train role like the water companies.

Yes, absolutely. Plus, the enormous difference in the private sector is that he would have to preside over the open market forces and getting customers to choose whether or not to buy the goods or services that they produce/supply.

In private business, you can't just show harrowing photos of sick/mistreated animals and rely on guilt and emotion to keep the pounds rolling in without doing anything yourself to earn it all.

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