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Do Europeans hate the Brits?

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Floofydawg · 24/09/2024 15:31

We're in Spain at the minute and have encountered some pretty hostile behaviour. Not so much from the Spanish, as we speak the language, but from other Europeans. We've been coming here many years and I've never before encountered such hostility. It got me thinking, do many Europeans dislike the Brits?

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Pearlgemspark · 24/09/2024 16:17

It would be helpful if you could give one example OP

Sceptical123 · 24/09/2024 16:18

CJsGoldfish · 24/09/2024 16:16

A previous poster mentioned the 'Brits Abroad' type behaviour.
That's got to have had an impact and negatively influenced many, especially those who live in the very countries offering the cheap, all inclusive, alcohol flowing locations that Brits love to flock to. And behave pretty entitled and obnoxious in.
Of course not all tourists behave like that but enough do to leave a bad taste. That's not even touching on the stag and hen 'events' that have jumped on the 'let's take it abroad' bandwagon 🤷‍♀️

Then their grudge should be against the venues and government for allowing and PROMOTING the culture

Ohhmydays · 24/09/2024 16:19

Berlinlover · 24/09/2024 15:48

I agree with this. I’m Irish too and when people become aware of the fact I’m not English their attitude changes completely.

I have noticed when abroad that it is usually Polish women and Russian's who tend to be quite rude and the odd german especially towards English people as apposed to Scottish Welsh people

OchonAgusOchonOh · 24/09/2024 16:19

Pearlgemspark · 24/09/2024 16:10

That doesnt really make sense.

The famine is a very, very long time ago.Those people are all dead . And it was the rich aristocracy in England who did it at the time, not the everyday English person
They had nothing to do with it.

No one alive in England now, did it to Ireland did they .

What if I said we should hate a German child for what some people did in his country in world war two. Does that make sense?

Edited

The pp also mentioned attitudes to NI as a issue.

While there is nobody alive now who was responsible for the famine, there are plenty alive who are responsible for the Birmingham 6, Guildford 4 etc miscarriages. There are plenty alive who were responsible for bloody Sunday, Ballymurphy massacre, collusion wrt Monaghan and Dublin bombings, massacre of miami show band etc. There are plenty alive who are racist towards the Irish on a regular basis. While I haven't lived in England in quite some time, being accused of being a terrorist and to fuck off back home was a regular occurance when I lived there in the 80's. Most of those people are probably still alive.

That all said, I met loads of lovely English people and am still friends with many of them.

Waffle78 · 24/09/2024 16:19

Erm we are in Europe though no longer in the EU. Unless we have more to a different geographical location.😂😂😂

BillySnuz · 24/09/2024 16:20

Oh well - In Heaven the cooks are French, the policemen are English, the mechanics are German, the lovers are Italian and everything is run by the Swiss..

In Hell..
The cooks are English, the policemen are German, the mechanics are French, the lovers are Swiss and everything is run by the Italians.

CherryValley5 · 24/09/2024 16:21

Pearlgemspark · 24/09/2024 16:10

That doesnt really make sense.

The famine is a very, very long time ago.Those people are all dead . And it was the rich aristocracy in England who did it at the time, not the everyday English person
They had nothing to do with it.

No one alive in England now, did it to Ireland did they .

What if I said we should hate a German child for what some people did in his country in world war two. Does that make sense?

Edited

England has a colonial past. Many people across the world have never forgotten that and still have bitter feelings to this day.

For example, whilst on business DH was recently advised by his company to use his Irish passport instead of his British one when travelling to India for smoother passage through customs and less hassle. It’s an inter generational phenomenon.

Pearlgemspark · 24/09/2024 16:23

OchonAgusOchonOh · 24/09/2024 16:19

The pp also mentioned attitudes to NI as a issue.

While there is nobody alive now who was responsible for the famine, there are plenty alive who are responsible for the Birmingham 6, Guildford 4 etc miscarriages. There are plenty alive who were responsible for bloody Sunday, Ballymurphy massacre, collusion wrt Monaghan and Dublin bombings, massacre of miami show band etc. There are plenty alive who are racist towards the Irish on a regular basis. While I haven't lived in England in quite some time, being accused of being a terrorist and to fuck off back home was a regular occurance when I lived there in the 80's. Most of those people are probably still alive.

That all said, I met loads of lovely English people and am still friends with many of them.

But again, the average English person had nothing to do with the Brimingham six, the Guildford four etc.

We should hate the people that did these things, not the entire country that they are from.

I was born in England and I think the Birmingham six, Guildford Four etc are awful miscarriages of justice. But it was the police at the time that were responsible, not anyone else in England.

Hate the person, not the country

TheDogsMother · 24/09/2024 16:23

I really don't think this is a thing. I'm English and we've travelled down from St Malo down the west coast of France to the western end of the Med. Several stops and pretty friendly everywhere. We've had similar holidays in previous years and it's all been nice. My spoken French is not great but I do try to use it. and I think that helps a bit.

Pearlgemspark · 24/09/2024 16:24

CherryValley5 · 24/09/2024 16:21

England has a colonial past. Many people across the world have never forgotten that and still have bitter feelings to this day.

For example, whilst on business DH was recently advised by his company to use his Irish passport instead of his British one when travelling to India for smoother passage through customs and less hassle. It’s an inter generational phenomenon.

Many countries have a colonial past.

Spain also has a colonial past. Spain invaded and colonised many many countries in the past.

What are your feelings on Spain's colonial past?

CherryValley5 · 24/09/2024 16:25

Pearlgemspark · 24/09/2024 16:24

Many countries have a colonial past.

Spain also has a colonial past. Spain invaded and colonised many many countries in the past.

What are your feelings on Spain's colonial past?

I don’t have any feelings on Spain’s colonial past as again, (guess what?!) I’m simply the messenger telling you what I know and have experienced.

Pearlgemspark · 24/09/2024 16:27

CherryValley5 · 24/09/2024 16:25

I don’t have any feelings on Spain’s colonial past as again, (guess what?!) I’m simply the messenger telling you what I know and have experienced.

I'm replying to your point where you said that England is not liked because of their Colonial past.

You only seem to remember England's colonial past, as you live in a country that England specifically colonised.

I'm pointing out to you that in history, many countries colonised other countries. That is how it was back then.

There were many wars , invasions and colonisations.

We've only really stopped doing it fairly recently.

lavenderlou · 24/09/2024 16:28

I travel regularly to France and haven't encountered any animosity. I speak French, don't know if that makes a difference. I've had lots of questions about Brexit.

GabriellaMontez · 24/09/2024 16:28

How do these hostile people even know you're English?

There are so many Europeans (and others) using English as a lingua franca. In shops in Europe we were often mistaken for other nationalities.

During several weeks in Europe we came across 1 rude tosser. But he didn't know where we were from.

CharlotteBog · 24/09/2024 16:28

Ginmonkeyagain · 24/09/2024 15:50

Not noticed at all. We were in the South of France earlier in the summer and everyone was perfectly friendly and welcoming.

That said it wasn't a very touristy area and we didn't encounter many non French people. We sat near a group of Dutch tourists one evening and helped them with the menu as they didn't speak any French, but that was it.

How are other tourists being hostile towards you?

Edited

This has been my experience, too.
We spent 2 weeks in the South of France in the summer. We went to places where other holiday makers were (the sea and a lake with water activities), but they were mostly French. We don't speak very good French but did make an effort. I can't think of a single negative experience.
[looks out of window and wishes we were still on holiday]

OchonAgusOchonOh · 24/09/2024 16:29

Pearlgemspark · 24/09/2024 16:23

But again, the average English person had nothing to do with the Brimingham six, the Guildford four etc.

We should hate the people that did these things, not the entire country that they are from.

I was born in England and I think the Birmingham six, Guildford Four etc are awful miscarriages of justice. But it was the police at the time that were responsible, not anyone else in England.

Hate the person, not the country

And what about the racist abuse? What about bloody Sunday, ballymurphy, miami showband, Dublin and monaghan bombings?

And yes, the average English person at the time had plenty to do with the Birmingham 6 etc. The general public were baying for blood which resulted in the police being desperate for convictions. Did you know that one of the maguire 7 was 14 and sentenced to 4 years? None of this happened in a vacuum.

CherryValley5 · 24/09/2024 16:29

Pearlgemspark · 24/09/2024 16:27

I'm replying to your point where you said that England is not liked because of their Colonial past.

You only seem to remember England's colonial past, as you live in a country that England specifically colonised.

I'm pointing out to you that in history, many countries colonised other countries. That is how it was back then.

There were many wars , invasions and colonisations.

We've only really stopped doing it fairly recently.

England’s colonial past had a detrimental effect on my home island. Spain on the other hand has absolutely nothing to do with me. See the difference?

Google the Irish and intergenerational trauma. It may help you out a bit.

CharlotteBog · 24/09/2024 16:30

Waffle78 · 24/09/2024 16:19

Erm we are in Europe though no longer in the EU. Unless we have more to a different geographical location.😂😂😂

True, but immigration at the borders is a proper pain now.......

Pearlgemspark · 24/09/2024 16:30

I think nationality is too rigid of a concept anyway.

They tried to put us in one small box.

If someone is born in England to an Indian mother and a French father for example, how can they be one nationality.

We are not from one place. We are all from the world

Floofydawg · 24/09/2024 16:30

How do these hostile people even know you're English?

Well I guess it's because when we're not speaking Spanish to staff in restaurants etc, we're speaking English to each other?

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MidCenturySuffolk · 24/09/2024 16:31

Your OP makes no sense. Brits are Europeans.

pddthic · 24/09/2024 16:31

Look OP, it exists to some extent but the people who answer this question are never unbiased. We have had many threads before where this question has been asked, same sort of posters, same sort of replies. Every time. Note the tone. They clearly have issues and I'll leave it there.

Pearlgemspark · 24/09/2024 16:31

CherryValley5 · 24/09/2024 16:29

England’s colonial past had a detrimental effect on my home island. Spain on the other hand has absolutely nothing to do with me. See the difference?

Google the Irish and intergenerational trauma. It may help you out a bit.

Edited

We were talking about Europe as a whole.

OP asked do Europeans dislike the British.

We are not just talking about Ireland.

CalmLion · 24/09/2024 16:32

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Walrusdress · 24/09/2024 16:32

I think it's like how people hate on Americans but Americans don't really care about elsewhere 😂
I'm not saying no Brits care about elsewhere but generally if they're being honest, they don't really.
And yes I expect backlash for this comment but in my experience it's true.
So don't let it bother you, it doesn't really matter.

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