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Paula Vennells was back in Phase 5/6 of the Post Office Inquiry and now we're at Phase 7 - thread 5

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nauticant · 23/09/2024 22:34

A continuation of this thread about the Post Office Inquiry:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5105378-paula-vennells-is-history-but-now-at-the-post-office-inquiry-is-fujitsu-distinguished-engineer-gareth-jenkins-thread-4

The Inquiry is at Phase 7 which is about how things stand now and looking to the future. Here's the timetable:

https://www.postofficehorizoninquiry.org.uk/phase-7-timetable

When the hearings are going on, live-streaming can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/featured

All of the previous hearings can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/videos

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nauticant · 18/12/2024 22:41

Thanks for the nice posts.

Unless something unusual happens I expect the thread to now go into hibernation for "many months", and then possibly wake up again for a discussion of the report.

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nauticant · 05/02/2025 17:03

A brief wake up for this thread about a Radio 4 programme to be broadcast on Tuesday 11 February 2025 at 8pm:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0027try

2024 was the year when the Post Office's victimisation of sub-postmasters became a ubiquitous national story, after the airing of an ITV Drama. "Mr Bates vs the Post Office" was viewed by more than 10 million people, and brought political momentum to the resolution of the ongoing injustices associated with the scandal. Before the election, the government passed landmark legislation to cut through the achingly slow judicial process and speedily overturn hundreds of convictions in one fell swoop. It was a major victory for Sub Postmasters and campaigners - but does it mean the scandal is over?

In a new episode of "The Great Post Office Trial", Nick Wallis goes behind the scenes of the efforts to get that legislation passed, hearing from the then Justice secretary and Post Office minister on the complex negotiations against the clock that got it through. And he also hears about the key compromise that helped reduce criticism from the judiciary - but has left some convicted sub-postmasters still out in the cold.

He also explores the question of accountability at the top, as the police investigation grinds on, revisiting the evidence given by former Post Office CEO Paula Vennells, which was pushed out of the news cycle by the announcement of the election.

And he hears from Sub Postmasters who are still frustrated by the pace and quantity of compensation payments, as more victims of this scandal continue to be put through the ringer in pursuit of the compensation the government has promised; he puts their concerns to Gareth Thomas MP, who has taken over since the election as the minister responsible, and Neil Brocklehurst, the Post Office's interim CEO.

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nauticant · 11/02/2025 19:43

A reminder: this will be broadcast on Radio 4 in 20 minutes.

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MarjorieDanvers · 11/02/2025 23:55

@nauticant thank you so much for this update (and all the threads on FWR) - it really is very much appreciated 💐

nauticant · 12/02/2025 11:01

You're welcome. The Post Office programme is being repeated now, from 11am on Radio 4:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0027try

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Oblomov24 · 07/04/2025 17:16

Why are my posts not posting?

Paula Vennells was back in Phase 5/6 of the Post Office Inquiry and now we're at Phase 7 - thread 5
Paula Vennells was back in Phase 5/6 of the Post Office Inquiry and now we're at Phase 7 - thread 5
Oblomov24 · 07/04/2025 17:18

I posted a picture. Sorry it's a Daily Mail link. But it was an interesting article about how top positions like Vennells and Welby are held by dullards, whereas panache and individualism is crushed.

Oblomov24 · 07/04/2025 17:24

You couldn't make it up. We all discussed and watched the Inquiry. May 24. Nearly a year later, practically nothings been done, little progress, loads of them still not been paid.

nauticant · 25/06/2025 20:02

The Inquiry will publish Volume 1 of its Final Report on Tuesday 8 July 2025.

https://www.postofficehorizoninquiry.org.uk/news/inquiry-publish-volume-1-its-final-report-8-july

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grumpygrape · 25/06/2025 20:19

Thanks nauticant. That's me with one eye on the report and the other on the Tour de France.

I really appreciate you keeping us up to date.

dewfirst · 26/06/2025 05:41

Yes , thanks. This will make very interesting reading. Truly shocking to know that Sir Alan Bates and so many others have yet to receive proper compensation; I am hoping for Criminal prosecutions to follow.......

Londonmummy66 · 26/06/2025 11:52

Thanks @nauticant - I am very glad that the initial report will focus on the really important aspects of the human suffering and compensation. Hopefully it will accelerate a satisfactory resolution to the latter and make the victims feel heard over the former.

nauticant · 08/07/2025 06:41

Publication day.

Nick Wallis:

Judging by my schedule tomorrow, the media coverage will be extensive. If you want to catch what I have to say anywhere, this is where you can find me:
6.30am BBC Breakfast
7.05am BBC Scotland
7.30am Today, BBC Radio 4
8.45am Times Radio
Then at 9.30am I can go into a room to see a copy of the report in advance. This will allow me to write you a blog post, which I will publish as soon as the report is formally released at midday. Then I will do:
12.05am BBC Radio 5Live
Then at 12.30pm, Sir Wyn Williams will address the inquiry hearing room in person. His comments are expected to last around 20 minutes. This will be broadcast live here on youtube. He will not, apparently, be taking questions. Then I will give my hot/considered takes on the report to the following:
2.45pm Sky News
3pm BBC TV News
6pm ITV London News
... before heading home

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LlynTegid · 08/07/2025 18:29

Sooner there are some people in the dock the better.

Harassedevictee · 08/07/2025 21:57

Thank you for the link. Sir Wyn was very clear in his summary that justice needs to be done.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 08/07/2025 23:04

I was thinking about Vennells today, when I saw that there were 15 suicides. The church should excommunicate her.

MarjorieDanvers · 08/07/2025 23:25

I too thought about Vennells today when listening to Sarah Montague discussing the scandal on the R4 1 o’clock news! It was heartbreaking - hang your heads in shame all of you!

Oblomov24 · 11/07/2025 06:11

Thanks Nauticant. Saw it, but can't believe much is actually going to come from it.

PerkingFaintly · 22/12/2025 20:53

God almighty.Shock

Post Office had deal with Fujitsu to fix Horizon errors 19 years ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqlkx6n15ero

An agreement was in place in 2006 for errors caused by bugs in the software to be corrected, or for Fujitsu to pay the Post Office up to £150 per transaction if it failed to do so.
The revelation directly contradicts the Post Office's claims during criminal prosecutions - which led to hundreds of wrongful convictions and civil cases that destroyed livelihoods - that no bugs existed capable of causing accounting shortfalls.
[...]
The document is dated four months before the Post Office started legal action against sub-postmaster Lee Castleton OBE
[...]
The document [...] supports what whistleblower Richard Roll told BBC Panorama in 2015.
The former Fujitsu worker said the team working on Horizon would sometimes correct thousands of transactions per night because the firm could be forced to pay cash to the Post Office if it failed to do so.
The agreement also notes that Fujitsu can and will amend transactional data, with the need for the Post Office to approve the entries.

A man in a dark coat walks by a Post Office branch

Post Office had deal with Fujitsu to fix Horizon errors 19 years ago

The emergence of a document contradicts claims made by the Post Office over bugs in its IT system during criminal prosecutions.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqlkx6n15ero

PerkingFaintly · 22/12/2025 20:57

The things Post Office said couldn't happen (Bugs Errors and Defects; remote access altering transactions) they had a written contract for Fujitsu to carry out and had even agreed payment terms.

Londonmummy66 · 22/12/2025 21:24

Unbelieveable - someone needs to get sent down for perjury

RawBloomers · 22/12/2025 23:20

Is there a good reason that this is only coming out now? Seems like something it would have been good for the enquiry to be asking witnesses about.

stonebrambleboy · 22/12/2025 23:26

So this wasn't told to the enquiry?

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