Family member awarded enhanced pip - AIBU?

[Orangecrocs]

My family member has just been awarded enhanced pip in both living and mobility components.
Shes told me that she’s twisted the truth during the assessment and told the assessor that she has lots of pain and can’t really walk at all, but she walks all the time as I see her out and about - we live in a hilly area. I know people who are in a wheelchair and struggle to get enhanced rate - so I really don’t understand how she’s managed this.
I know people will say mind your own business but she’s told me she’s actually lied to them.

This. The amount of relation to cannabis and mental health is substantial. And it’s a awful situation where they’ve got mental health issues due to the drugs, get disability benefits for their mental health and use those benefits for those drugs - hence never being able to get out of the mental health state. I know of multiple people who claim they cannot work due to mental health, and I don’t doubt it’s mental health but they also smoke themselves silly and sleep all day and because they get benefits for the mental health aspect - they’re never going to want to actually get out of that cycle or ‘better’ themselves.

Do you need cash for this? NO!

All these things can be paid for via bank transfer or debit card!!!!

Benefits bank account and a benefits debit card. All money can be accounted for and audited. No cash payments needed.

Lool

maybe you should of read all the quoted posts 🤣🤣

Most people on benefits aren't going to the bank and withdrawing huge sums of cash. Perhaps some are. But nothing like the inflated figures you seem to have in your head. Also not sure how it would reduce benefit fraud really. Certainly not like the type that is being suggested in this thread.

Also, cash is still widely used. In fact, I have to withdraw £150 tomorrow to pay for the hall and bouncy castle for my kids birthday party. Is that ok with you? Just thought I'd check seeing as I apparently have to justify all my spending to the taxpayers. Or is my child not allowed a birthday party either?

It is about mobility and pain if that’s what your issue is. There are communication and other issues that relate to autism.

There is always medical evidence to support a PIP claim. Even if the claimant doesn’t provide it themselves, and even in the absence of a face to face assessment. DWP case managers who make award decisions are not medically qualified. There will always be an assessors report if the claimant does not provide evidence of their own. As a benefit adviser I would never have advised any claimant to rely on an assessment report - assessors are not doctors. They can variously be nurses, physios, paramedics, and not necessarily experienced in any one disability or condition. Independent medical evidence is always preferable.

This might be of interest to you - about how easy it is to fake neurological conditions -

Challenges to the Diagnosis of Functional Neurological Disorder: Feigning, Intentionality, and Responsibility

It is relatively new as well

Challenges to the Diagnosis of Functional Neurological Disorder: Feigning, Intentionality, and Responsibility - PMC (nih.gov)

I believe all business should be cashless too.

My business is cashless and I do not accept cash payments and most of the people offering me cash payments are wait for it…….. on benefits! 😂 They actually tell me they are on benefits before you ask how I know.

That is just my experience.

I have. It’s bollocks. Unless you live with someone 24 hours a day, are intimately acquainted with their condition, have access to medical reports and are privy to the private details of their benefit claim, you can’t possibly know whether they qualify for benefit or not.

This thread is absolutely vile.

As per usual when it comes to discussing disability benefits, or benefits in general.

Here's a thread outlining exactly why cash is often preferable for older/disabled people. I doubt you'll bother reading it.

And god forbid someone might want to give their grandchild a tenner in a card for their birthday or anything.

Report her. Making us all poorer.

Yep, I hope it gets taken down.

OP just wants people to get in a froth about her "relative", and this thread is little more than a dog whistle for all the benefit bashers to come out. It happens every time, and it is sickening.

Claimants should take the taxpayers hard earned, be grateful, keep their heads down, and get on with it.

The sense of entitlement on these threads is mind blowing.

Doris alone isn't making you poorer.

What’s the difference whether it’s paid in cash or not ? It’s still a need. And if you’re talking about different levels of payment which are audited, that already happens. There are different levels of PIP paid for different levels of need. Anything else is difficult and expensive to administer. You’re talking shite.

What a trite and ridiculous post.

Disability benefit scamming is a real thing. I work in this field. I have had people claim they can't walk and then post social media pics of them skiing ! Sorry it's not the narrative you want to hear !

The even sadder part is that there are many hundreds of thousands who DONT claim disability benefits when they are entitled due to misinformation about them being means tested.

Yes OP it is your duty along with every other tax payer to report fraud. It IS literally your business and mine and everyone elses.

Ah yes. Entitlement. Lots of posts about entitlement to the benefit. Not so many about the level of actual disability that goes with it.

As so the joking with that poster went right over your head. Good to know.

Thank you.

Good for you but many aren't. It's also entirely up to people which method they wish to use to make payments if there are options for both electronic and cash.

Also how would this hypothetical "benefits bank account" actually work? How would bills be paid? Would direct debits and standing orders be allowed? What if the total outgoings were more than the benefit income and the rest had to be paid using wages? Would someone have to juggle 2 bank accounts with direct debits coming out of both just to appease people who feel they have some sort of right to know how other people are spending their own money?

A big difference. Cash is not needed anymore.

Benefit fraud, tax evasion, money laundering. human trafficking, drug money all of these things are easier when cash is the currency.

If cash was removed all these things would lessen.

The UK should become a cashless system and benefits in cash are not necessary. We are moving towards a cashless society so I believe in the future this will be something that is seriously considered.

The thread is about alleged fraud.

Awkward 😂

I’ve told you this is extremely time, resource and human intensive but you’re not listening. I see how it works for people receiving Direct Payments for social care services. Given you seem to think we should be cashless, this system would need to be in place for all benefits including the student loan, state pension and child benefit. You have no idea of the scale and cost.