Family member awarded enhanced pip - AIBU?

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My family member has just been awarded enhanced pip in both living and mobility components.
Shes told me that she’s twisted the truth during the assessment and told the assessor that she has lots of pain and can’t really walk at all, but she walks all the time as I see her out and about - we live in a hilly area. I know people who are in a wheelchair and struggle to get enhanced rate - so I really don’t understand how she’s managed this.
I know people will say mind your own business but she’s told me she’s actually lied to them.

I know people whose health conditions are genuinely disabling who have been denied PIP because they haven't been able to tick the right boxes on the forms to qualify.

I also know one person who falsely claims they need a full time carer, are incontinent and can't walk, among other things. They borrowed a wheelchair and had their daughter wheel them to the appointment. They brag about how much money they get. If this person wasn't a relative I'd report them; as it is I don't want the drama/hassle.

I wish there was a system that would ensure every person who actually needed help got it and the scammers didn't, but I can't think how it could be done.

I worked as a disability benefits adviser for years. I watched as successive Tory governments regarded vulnerable disabled people as the low hanging fruit and made these benefits harder and harder for genuinely disabled people to claim. I supported people who were on their knees with mental health problems and discouraged from going to tribunal to get what they were entitled to because it was simply made too stressful for them to cope with. Excuse me if I don’t appreciate humour after attending the funerals of those who found it all so overwhelming they took their own lives, rather than struggle on the bones of their arse because of attitudes like some of those on this thread.

And this is why I don't tell anyone I get pip high rate for both.

Bit disappointing to hear that - thought that benefits were paid in gold bars and diamonds couriered directly to the recipient's front room

Exactly. Because there’s always some twat who doesn’t know the first thing about you, but will try to argue as to why you don’t qualify.

MH will worsen under this govt with the wfa cuts etc

You make no sense.

Businesses are going cashless all the time.

Benefits will too.

Guess what? My DC gets a student loan, do you know how many times he has got cash out in the last 2 years? None!!!!!😂

I run a business and I have never withdrawn cash from that bank account!!!!!

Cash is on the way out and this will be introduced into the benefit system sooner or later.

Spina Bifida is a neural tube congenital disability, along with many other neurological conditions which are as a result of birth defects and can cause multiple disability/devastating effects. There are numerous tests and scans which can support symptoms and effects. If I was going to fake a disability to claim benefits, it definitely wouldn’t be a neurological disorder.

I manage the dc benefits, 4 of them get dla/pip. 2 have autism, 1 has autism and adhd the other has GDD. I also have another child with autism who doesn't get pip.

If you talked to my dh he may well tell you that the dc get dla/pip but he has no idea why because their needs are quite mild. This is because he has autism as well and he thinks their problems are normal. The reality is very different.

So much bullshit spouted on here. If you think it's so easy to claim and get awarded enhanced care and mobilty on PIP, knock yourselves out.
One poster confidently asserts that the DH of a claimant is a high earner but he claims carer's allowance. CA is about £80 a week (for providing 35hrs of care) and you have to earn less than £151 per week.

You seem oddly fixated on this idea of people on benefits withdrawing vast sums of cash. It's really not as big a thing as you think nor will your fantasy bank account/card ideas prevent any sort of benefit fraud. But if people want to withdraw all their benefit payment in cash, they can and that's ok.

Also, benefits ARE cashless. As far as I'm aware nobody has the option to be paid in cash anymore. It's all done via bank transfer. But you keep ignoring the multiple people who have pointed this out to you.

And once that money hits the claimants bank account, it's nobody's business what it's used for.

You are, of course, aware that very many claimants are tax payers themselves. And that very many PIP claimants work. That’s the intention of the benefit. To provide a level playing field so that disability doesn’t disadvantage a person either socially or financially. You clearly have no fucking idea of what it’s like to live as a disabled person. You should hang your head in shame for the ignorance of that comment. What an awful thread - one of the worst I’ve seen for quite a while. And that’s quite a feat.

At least it exists.

Some people would literally die to get it (and tragically do).

@YOYOK you do know state pension is not a benefit, are you thinking of pension credit?

Tell me you know fuck-all about fibromyalgia, without telling me you know fuck-all about fibromyalgia.

What shitty, ignorant comments from you. I am embarrassed for you!

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This exactly!

Yes indeed. And if a cashless society is created it will make it all the easier for government to keep track of everyone’s spending habits. Not just those of benefit claimants. And you seriously want to hand over this kind of control voluntarily ?

I suspect you’ve made it up. But if not, and you feel like you do report it.

No you make no sense.
Benefits are cashless. They are bank transferred.

Your DC should have a special bank account that the government can monitor to make sure he’s using his student loan for appropriate purposes.

For now.

Businesses are going cashless and I believe benefits will too.

I am not ignoring what posters are saying my POV is that cash is not needed anymore and I believe the benefits system would be better if it was a system which only allowed debit card transactions or bank transfers. No cash withdrawals.

A cashless society is the way forward for all transactions not just benefits.

I hate to correct you, but state pension actually is classed as a benefit - it’s been defined as such since it was created. Sorry.

Rosscameasdoody · Today 18:15
Nope. What a fucking awful comment. The motability scheme is reserved for those who are awarded the enhanced rate mobility component of PIP because they have severe mobility problems. Christ people. Stop reading the Daily Fail, do a bit of research into the eligibility criteria for PIP and apply a bit of critical thinking before you post from sheer ignorance.

Yes there are some fucking rancid comments on this thread... by some equally rancid posters.

As has been said, it needs deleting. It's fucking horrible!

Honestly, moe and more I think it is unwise to confide in friends or family - or anyone - details about personal finances. It can cause resentment which may not be shown openly but festers away.

This has always been my stance. It amazes me how free some people seem to be with their private financial affairs though. But saying that, I do know someone who talks rather too freely about their financial business. I think that nobody needs to know my business in real life.

This is being petitioned to change too.

This person knows absolutely sweet FA. Regardless, I’d love to have all student loans and child benefit and the winter fuel allowance paid into a particular bank account that the state can spy on, sorry I mean ‘monitor’ to make sure it’s being used correctly.