Teachers given lie-ins and extra days off

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The Guardian is reporting today that state schools are offering perks in an attempt to attract and retain teachers. These include lie-ins, whereby teachers will start later one day a week, a day off each fortnight and even the chance to work from home.

Clearly there is an issue with getting enough high-quality teachers into the profession and keeping them there. However, I’m not sure how these initiatives will go down with taxpayers on the back of successive teachers’ strikes, schools closing for months during lockdown and now inflation-busting pay rises.

Would you be happy with your DC’s teacher arriving to school late after a relaxing lie-in or logging on from home?

YABU- teachers deserve lie-ins
YANBU- teachers should be in class teaching DC

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Ah the days of automatic progression onto UPS are long gone. School budget squeezes saw the demise of automatic progression. Keep up

I never said they were - although they are obviously linked, you can have what isn’t there.

I do think they are paid well. £40k for M6 for 40 hour week (20.5 ish directed), and 13 weeks annual leave - That’s a good wage, and that’s before progressing onto UPS, and obviously leaving out TLRs.

In 27 years, I have never met a leading practitioner teacher. It is disingenuous to suggest you can just rock up and get one of those jobs.

There are no ‘additional £16k’ in any primaries for additional responsibility. Most subjects don’t even get a TLR and many sencos don’t get a penny for the extra workload.

These are not possible for most primary teachers.

All teachers want is: well behaved kids, kids who want to learn no matter their level and cooperative parents

Less entitled parents would beat lie-ins every day. Teachers 'work for their wage' btw, what the actual...

No wonder they leave. I've been out 9 years. Couldn't drag me back.

Those salaries aren't possible for most teachers.

OP ask your husband what percentage of teachers he has that get paid over 50k.

What is clear is that all teachers in the U.K. have the opportunity to earn up to an additional £16k as they take on additional responsibilities.

As they develop further, they can then get over £85k as a leading practitioner before moving on to a leadership role which can pay over £150k.

It is hardly a pittance.

No they don't.

You can't have 17 heads of the maths department.

OP mentioning this additional £16k we can all
apparently get so easily, just proves she doesn’t have a bloody clue.

All that has been explained on the thread. It doesn’t work in the way you seem to think.
And no, they aren’t linked. Teachers’ pay is linked to how much the government is prepared to find for it, yes, but that doesn’t equate to what they get being appropriate.
You can’t argue with the fact that, however generous you think they pay and conditions are, there’s a massive recruitment and retention crisis - ever considered your view might not be quite right?

What is your weird obsession with seeing people in bed or knowing people are in bed?

You are dreaming. Clearly too much pop for you

You can repeat that as often as you like, doesn't make it reality!

This is hilarious.

It’s embarrassing that you think it’s so easy for us all to get this additional £16k. It’s not “clear” at all.
How many staff in your husbands school get this? Unless it’s the majority of them, stop spouting this crap. You don’t have a clue.

I've got to say that I know quite a few teachers in my area Surrey-I think it would be Fringe, and at my age (50) they're all earning in the £60-70k+ region. Admittedly they're all either HoD in secondary or Deputy Head in Primary or have full TLR. But after 20 years, anyone but the least ambitious should expect to be at that point, no? If you choose not to progress, you can expect your salary to keep progressing!

Last time I knew anyone on "lead teacher" salary was 2008 🤣 anyone remember advanced skills teachers. We were dangled a pay carrot for being really good ...that disappeared fast

True. If it was that easy why do we have a recruitment and retention problem?

No one and I mean no one is given more than 4k for extra responsibility! Ever. Facts. 😂😂😂😂😂
Do you work for the DFE? Can be only possible reason for your increasingly insane postings 🙄

😂😂😂 do you make a habit of walking past teachers houses then? What a strange comment

Parents like you are why teachers are leaving tbh.

All teachers in the whole country?

I think it is quite clear you don’t have a clue how school budgets work.

I think you’ve misunderstood. If a a teacher gets 2 hours ‘off’ one morning a week, they are not working 2 hours less over the week, they will be making up those 2 hours elsewhere. Many will even chose to work during those 2 hour, just from home. Teachers (in secondary at least) will still be teaching the same number of lessons and therefore the workload and total hours work is unchanged. It’s just giving a little bit of flexibility to the job

Exactly! It's so odd. I want to know who these losers are who will be finding out where teachers live and checking their curtain status.

Much of what you complain about is inaccurate. Schools remained open during lockdown. The last government have been underpaying teachers with below inflation or zero pay rises, therefore a correction is now needed.