Teachers given lie-ins and extra days off

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The Guardian is reporting today that state schools are offering perks in an attempt to attract and retain teachers. These include lie-ins, whereby teachers will start later one day a week, a day off each fortnight and even the chance to work from home.

Clearly there is an issue with getting enough high-quality teachers into the profession and keeping them there. However, I’m not sure how these initiatives will go down with taxpayers on the back of successive teachers’ strikes, schools closing for months during lockdown and now inflation-busting pay rises.

Would you be happy with your DC’s teacher arriving to school late after a relaxing lie-in or logging on from home?

YABU- teachers deserve lie-ins
YANBU- teachers should be in class teaching DC

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What incentives are offered in your workplace OP?
Bonuses? Profit share? Flexibility? Pay rises? Performance rewards?

Blimey. It’s ok for other jobs to start late, have flexi hours, but of course not teachers.
I’ll believe it when I see it, until then I’ll carry on working way more hours than I’m paid for and regularly not getting chance to pop to the loo or have a drink.
I wish non-teachers could spend a day in a state classroom.

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I think we need to know what all these hard working parents are up to.

Someone close to me is a teacher and she would not be having a lie-in on that day. She would be preparing for the day ahead. Also if she had a work from home day then she would also be using that to do prep for school. She currently has to spend most of her weekends and evenings doing school work. So this would be great for her as then she would actually get some decent free time when she isn’t in work. She is currently thinking of leaving the profession for this reason.

Oh dear!! You really think a teachers work is done at 3/4pm? Clearly you do not know any teachers 😂

So do please tell. What would you think if you walked past a teacher's house at midnight and the bedroom curtains weren't closed yet because said teacher was still up marking and doing prep? Which is something that happens frequently.

Working for their wage!?? Is that a joke?
You know teachers don't sit in a staffroom all day drinking coffee don't you?
And they don't clock off at 3.
And they have entitled parents calling and emailing 24/7 because their child didn't like the way they were spoken to by the teacher who they swore at.
And reports. Lots of reports.
Marking.
Prep.
Meetings.
Buying their own classroom supplies (from their wage )
Should I continue?
So if they get a lie-In once a week, I reckon I could live with that.

I'm not able to put a price on having healthy, motivated teachers. If it was such a great job there wouldn't be problems with retention. Surely everybody who thinks teaching is a cushy job should be applying to become one.

Be careful with this OP - if you really want teachers to be in school and accountable for every minute they are paid, you can have just that! And you won't get a minute more. If all teachers worked to rule, did nothing outside of their contracted hours, the system would be fucked. All that marking and planning doesn't get done during the measly non contact hours that teachers get.

Be careful what you wish for.

😂😂 whatever mate - teachers are hard working. I don’t need to see them working to know that!

do you want CCTV for the whole public sector so you know “they are working for a tax payer wage!” Pull the other one and get off your high horse.

Maybe their curtains are closed because they have nosey fuckwits peering in through the window trying to find out what they are doing.

It sounds sensible. If you can’t recruit and retain you explore all options.
After a parents evening for example it makes sense to schedule staff in later. Or permit planning to be done at home. A few flexible days off too as everyone has things that can’t be scheduled in hols eg wedding guest or child’s graduation.

Yabu
There is a recruitment and retention crisis in teaching because of the unrelenting stress. These measures may help massively amd be greatly beneficial to children's education. The alternative is what my niece suffered where she had no teacher at all for some GCSE subjects because the teacher was off sick with stress and they couldn't get cover staff who knew the subject. I would way rather have a happy and motivated teacher who is being looked after propery than one who is demotivated and teetering on the brink of collapse.

Maybe they'd like to consider that my curtains are none of their fucking business.

Sounds like Op needs to go back to school!

Interesting that you're so concerned about the curtains, in winter we sometimes leave ours closed at the front as there isn't any sun that side and it helps to keep the warmth in.

Clearly you have no idea of what teaching actually entails.

This is such a goady, teacher bashing post. Teachers get free periods for planning and marking. Not nearly enough to actually do all that work in a 9-5 or even 8-6 day, but some nonetheless. If they work from home during this non-contact time or come in late if the free period is in the morning, why is that a problem?

Do we assume OP works, because it seems more she is scouting local school car parks to see what time cars are arriving and leaving, and then peaks into teachers homes through windows to see what the part-timers do.

Who are these people who know where teachers live??

What the hell?! Sometimes we leave our lounge curtains closed all day. How is this your business? So creepy that you even know where the teachers live.

Thats a fair point well made 😂

Ah yes, the good old 'curtains closed' trope. FFS OP, give your head a wobble. Closed curtains say precisely nothing about whether someone is a hard worker. And as for their bedroom curtains being closed, even with knowledge of a teacher's address, who's going to know whether their bedroom is on the front of the house? These are batshit comments to make.

I also think your juxtaposition of teachers and 'hardworking parents' is quite unpleasant.

I bet life of the village curtain twitcher is exhausting though 😂
ALmost strange OP even found a moment to pop on Mumsnet after noting down all the households with curtains drawn late in the morning.

I would also make it easier for schools to exclude DC where needed to prevent disruption to learning.

I wish we could exclude some of the parents 😂

Sounds like DH needs isn't busy enough. As long as kids are getting a good education, who cares if their teachers get a lie-in or have a day off. It isn't slavery you know!