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What compensation would you want for this?

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FiveHundredDucksWentOutOneDay · 18/09/2024 10:48

The major kitchen company involved have asked me, and there's a big difference between what me and DH think.

In short...

We planned the kitchen in January in-store, which was a great process.

Payment was awful. They insist on online payment and sent us links, which we paid, but then deluged us in 18 more links. We talked to them and they said it was an error - but then as the 18 extras were not paid, the order was cancelled. It took 2 days to sort out again.

Two weeks before fitting was due to begin, we were told the gas work that was supposed to be covered could no longer be done, and we'd need to find our own engineer at our own cost before fitting could begin. We did, and the engineer discovered the placement of the boiler, sink and hob were non-compliant. We had to drive 90 minutes to a different store for an urgent re-design, which meant the hob we'd bought privately didn't fit, and we lost two cupboards worth of space.

The dishwasher they sold us was out-of-stock, constantly. Eventually a member of staff told us it would not be available and the only one they had in a similar size was a lot less efficient. Swapping out the dishwasher removed our "4 for 3" appliance offer, which has still not been fixed.

Five days before installation, we were asked to send photos to confirm our old kitchen had been fully removed in order for installation to go ahead, which is not fun with a toddler!

Three days before installation, most of the kitchen arrived, but the dishwasher and worktops did not. Customer Services then told us that none of the worktops or island had ever been ordered, despite us paying them. We lost DAYS to calling them to try and sort this out.

The fitters found several items missing, including whole drawers, hinges and doors. Temporary worktops were sourced, but we were not sent enough for the island to be constructed fully, and the fitters were not sure it was safe without worktops, so we were left with an unusable kitchen (which is open-plan in our downstairs, and again really difficult with a toddler!). Then then sent us 30 random kitchen items, none of them the missing ones, which we've had to store since May, which has basically filled the basement.

On the last day of fitting, the new worktops were due, and didn't arrive. The fitters left as they had nothing else to do, but had forgotten to secure the oven into the casing, which fell and hit my foot. I was not seriously injured, but amidst all the stress from the fitting, I had a miscarriage. I can't prove this was because of the kitchen, but I do have a note from EPU with it as the 'suspected cause', due to stress. I'm heartbroken about it regardless.

We've since had three sets of new worktops delivered, all of which have taken at least a month to arrive, and none of which are right. We've finally had the correct colour arrive, but it's not double-sided, so it'll look rubbish on the overhanging part of the island. They've also not sent new worktops for the side, which the fitter expected, so he hasn't fitted the existing ones well - but it is passable.

The final bit should be fitted next week, which will then hopefully finish the kitchen. It should have been completed in the first week of May.

I'm self-employed and lost 8 days of work to trying to sort out all the errors. It's been really stressful, and required constant phone calls and chasing. Promised manager call-backs never come, and nobody seems to read the same notes.

The customer services manager has promised that they'll review the complaint once the kitchen is finalised. I don't hold out much hope - she keeps referring to my miscarriage with smiley face emojis in the same sentence - but what would you be looking for?

I'd quite like them to take it all out, to be honest, but I appreciate that's an emotional response and not a logical one.

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ThisHangryPinkBalonz · 14/10/2024 11:49

Is there someone you could contact like local newspaper, social media, Martin lewis, those daytime tv shows that solves problems etc.
All sounds horrendous, and I would want a full refund minimum.

Dotto · 14/10/2024 11:51

I don't know but these places are a complete scam, along with Sharps Bedrooms etc. Always best to get a local company in.

Ivehearditbothways · 14/10/2024 11:54

Have you tried going through Resolver? It’s free for you and they’re brilliant at sorting things for you.

FiveHundredDucksWentOutOneDay · 15/10/2024 09:22

Yeah, Resolver are on the case, but don't seem to be getting much of a reply. The social media team for the kitchen company have been brilliant too, but seemed to give up yesterday, they messaged to say their emails about it are no longer being answered so I'd be better to call the main line and start again 🙄

I'm so frustrated. You'd think they'd want it resolved.

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AllThatEverWas · 15/10/2024 09:28

I'd include a link to this thread on a new email and explain that you want this resolved immediately. And that you will add further details - including the number of times that you have to chase them and receive no answer - to this thread as and when. You've kept it factual so it should answer all of their questions.

You haven't named them - yet

FiveHundredDucksWentOutOneDay · 19/10/2024 18:50

Laughably; they’ve emailed me on a Saturday to offer me about 6% of the kitchen cost to “make amends”.

That doesn’t even cover the actual financial losses I had; let alone anything else. Joke.

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DinosaurMunch · 19/10/2024 19:03

Berga · 18/09/2024 11:42

I'm sorry this happened to you, its shit.

I'd want to be back in the same position before they darkened your door, so I'd want full refund, the kitchen removed at their cost, compensation for your 8 days work and then for the stress and accident.

I'd name them here too.

I agree

AlertCat · 19/10/2024 19:09

Unbelievable. Appalling. What a piss-take on their part.

I’m so sorry for all you have been through.

Radio 4 have a consumer programme, You and Yours. They might well take on your case and argue for a decent settlement if you wanted them to.

BIossomtoes · 19/10/2024 19:40

Small claims court. It’s atrocious, I thought Wren were pretty shit with our kitchen but it pales into insignificance compared with this.

Bearbookagainandagain · 19/10/2024 20:19

You could try the Guardian or the Times consumer champions (their might be others I don't know about), they do get results if they pick up your case.

[email protected]
Or
[email protected]

They don't deserve a cent of your money.

roadrager · 19/10/2024 21:19

Have you got a solicitor on the case? At this point I'd be taking the legal route and going nuclear.

Whyherewego · 20/10/2024 08:45

FiveHundredDucksWentOutOneDay · 19/10/2024 18:50

Laughably; they’ve emailed me on a Saturday to offer me about 6% of the kitchen cost to “make amends”.

That doesn’t even cover the actual financial losses I had; let alone anything else. Joke.

Just reject the kitchen as not fit for purpose and tell them to take it away !

Bellatrixpure · 20/10/2024 08:55

Name and shame company, that’s horrendous

Redburnett · 20/10/2024 09:03

Wondering if this was B&Q........
Fitter left our kitchen with water leaking into the cupboard under the sink. Fitter returned to fix it and told us it was not a leak because the water was getting through the round hole and blank in the draining board. He had not sealed it. Apparently an unsealed hole was not a leak.... even though the effect on poor quality chipboard cupboards was the same. We had to change load of items as unsuitable eg sink made of the thinnest metal imaginable, totally not fit for purpose. Never again.
Advice to others is never to use a company that has sub-contractors doing the fitting as you have no idea who you will get or how good they will be.

Longhotsummers · 20/10/2024 09:12

Wren by any chance? I’ve heard similar but not as bad feedback about them.
in your case 100% refund would be the only comp. I’d want.

BIossomtoes · 20/10/2024 15:05

I reckon it’s Wren.

FiveHundredDucksWentOutOneDay · 29/10/2024 12:32

Just as a probably final update; they've said their final offer is £1.7k.

It's IKEA, not Wren. They had great reviews when we looked.

I've got the opportunity to take it to retail ADR, but I don't know if they'd compensate any further. IKEA tell me that they won't take into account any stress/emotional upset/physical issues like the miscarriage, so they won't compensate for that.

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Whyherewego · 29/10/2024 12:41

I'd just go back and say that they haven't remedied this to a satisfactory quality in a satisfactory time and that this doesn't adequately compensate you. And take them to a small claims court

NeckolasCage · 29/10/2024 12:45

Oh my god. A full refund. Or you will absolutely aim for the most damaging publicity possible.

FiveHundredDucksWentOutOneDay · 29/10/2024 14:59

They're refusing to give me the legal address to start small claims procedures, stating that my legal representative can request that information.

It's the most bizarre situation.

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Lougle · 29/10/2024 15:03

"IKEA Limited is a company registered in England with its registered office at Floor 7, 100 Avebury Boulevard, Milton Keynes, United Kingdom, MK9 1FH and company number 01986283."

FiveHundredDucksWentOutOneDay · 29/10/2024 15:27

Ah thanks both. It was on my to do list to search for but clearly not above moaning here 😅

I’m really surprised at their attitude.

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godmum56 · 29/10/2024 15:30

FiveHundredDucksWentOutOneDay · 29/10/2024 15:27

Ah thanks both. It was on my to do list to search for but clearly not above moaning here 😅

I’m really surprised at their attitude.

me too. I thought they were better than that. Also really silly to decline to give you their address when it is in the public domain.

ForeverPombear · 29/10/2024 15:37

I also thought they were better than that.

I've been looking at getting an IKEA one because I'd heard a lot of positive stories. I'm definitely not going to now.

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