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To also lock cat out of the room?

143 replies

JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 07:55

DD used to have cat in her room. He is an orange cat and she has a desk with built in shelves with lots of trinkets on and he always tries to jump up and knock everything off.

So he's taken to sleeping in my room, but he wakes me up all the time. Jumping up and down off his bed (thick blankets onto of the wardrobe) and coming to make biscuits on my face at 4am.

He can't sleep in the living room (dog)

I was thinking of getting him a big tall cat tree for the upstairs hall, so just outside my bedroom, something with an enclosed bed to keep him warm over winter.

I feel mean locking him out of all the bedrooms at night but he is really naughty and loves to knock things over! Funnily he doesn't do it in the daytime!

OP posts:
JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 14:14

Ohwhatacircusitis · 18/09/2024 14:08

I really don't want to get into an argument over this.
But actually she listed all the places the cat couldn't go at night: kitchen too cold, living room not suitable because of dog, dd's room not suitable because of ornaments, OP's room not suitable because he keeps her awake.
So it does smack of not forward planning to take into account the poor cat's night time needs.

I'm not trying to knock the OP. But I admit I am fiercely pro cat. And pro a lot of pets actually. Not so sure about my pro human stance.

I'm not posting further on the thread

Hurray!

OP posts:
SoupDragon · 18/09/2024 14:15

Ohwhatacircusitis · 18/09/2024 14:08

I really don't want to get into an argument over this.
But actually she listed all the places the cat couldn't go at night: kitchen too cold, living room not suitable because of dog, dd's room not suitable because of ornaments, OP's room not suitable because he keeps her awake.
So it does smack of not forward planning to take into account the poor cat's night time needs.

I'm not trying to knock the OP. But I admit I am fiercely pro cat. And pro a lot of pets actually. Not so sure about my pro human stance.

I'm not posting further on the thread

Cats are not nocturnal.

They are crepuscular (most active at dawn and dusk).

Toddlerteaplease · 18/09/2024 14:18

Have you got my late Orange car, Cheddar reincarnated. She'd always make biscuits on my face at ungodly hours. It was a pain at the time, but I miss it now!

NewGreenDuck · 18/09/2024 14:19

Mine have always been shut in downstairs but with access to the cat flap. Each has been able to sleep, eat, go out at will. Several cat baskets so they can pick and choose where they sleep. I just find that easier. They seem happy.

takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 14:37

sunsetsandboardwalks · 18/09/2024 14:05

Read her other responses - she thinks it's cruel for cat owners to shut their cats out of bedrooms, even when it impacts their own sleep.

I have - she said it's important to get to know a pet's individual needs and respond to them, so she said it was cruel to deny access to a bedroom if that's what the cat clearly wants. As I said, that's a bit different from putting a cat in the kitchen at night from day one. We have no idea whether the OP has tried anything like... simply putting the ornaments in a box.

Obviously you might not agree with her and that's fine, but actually that poster has been polite and simply offered her own view, and she's been met with defensive and mocking replies. I don't know why people post in AIBU if they can't handle hearing someone else's point of view!

Perroi · 18/09/2024 14:38

It's a cat. Not a person, not a child.
Shut it in another room. If it doesn't have a cat flap it will be fine anywhere as long as it has a litter tray and food.
My cat is shut in the kitchen at night, he can come and go as he likes but even during the day he's not allowed in bedrooms.

sunsetsandboardwalks · 18/09/2024 14:45

takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 14:37

I have - she said it's important to get to know a pet's individual needs and respond to them, so she said it was cruel to deny access to a bedroom if that's what the cat clearly wants. As I said, that's a bit different from putting a cat in the kitchen at night from day one. We have no idea whether the OP has tried anything like... simply putting the ornaments in a box.

Obviously you might not agree with her and that's fine, but actually that poster has been polite and simply offered her own view, and she's been met with defensive and mocking replies. I don't know why people post in AIBU if they can't handle hearing someone else's point of view!

On the flip side, maybe you shouldn't go around accusing people of being cruel or neglectful if you don't want backlash for it. I actually don't think that poster has been polite at all, and she's been (rightly) called out for her comments.

OP is doing absolutely nothing wrong - cats don't need to sleep in with their owners even if that's what they've been allowed to do before. Prioritising the sleep of a human is not "cruel" in any sense of the word.

takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 14:59

sunsetsandboardwalks · 18/09/2024 14:45

On the flip side, maybe you shouldn't go around accusing people of being cruel or neglectful if you don't want backlash for it. I actually don't think that poster has been polite at all, and she's been (rightly) called out for her comments.

OP is doing absolutely nothing wrong - cats don't need to sleep in with their owners even if that's what they've been allowed to do before. Prioritising the sleep of a human is not "cruel" in any sense of the word.

Well, she didn't accuse anyone of cruelty or neglect. Read her posts again 😉

Politeness is subjective, I guess.

JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 14:59

BTW the cat NEVER sleeps with me. He sleeps on top of the wardrobe.

If he stayed up there it wouldn't be an issue. But he jumps down, to my dressing table, knocking things over. Gets on my bed, not to sleep, but to pat my face, knead my chest or bite my toes if they're out of the covers.

So he's not 'used to sleeping with me' because he sleeps on his own, the other side of the room

OP posts:
Ohwhatacircusitis · 18/09/2024 15:06

JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 14:14

Hurray!

Well I wasn't going to post again but just tell me why you needed to get a final nasty dig in? My last post wasn't even addressed to you.

My intention when I put my original comment on was just to put one post on. It's only because of you , and other posters, quoting me back and being unpleasant have I come back to answer your snide remarks.

You posted in AIBU. I gave an opinion. You didn't like my opinion. Fair enough. Why you and other posters have to be so unpleasant about it I don't know.

You have plenty of other pp backing you up. Why not just ignore what I had to say? Why post in AIBU if you don't want differing viewpoints?

SoupDragon · 18/09/2024 15:11

What you need is a cosy cat sleeping bag...

(Facebook reels clearly has an amazing algorithm to show me this right now!)

To also lock cat out of the room?
SoupDragon · 18/09/2024 15:12

Ohwhatacircusitis · 18/09/2024 15:06

Well I wasn't going to post again but just tell me why you needed to get a final nasty dig in? My last post wasn't even addressed to you.

My intention when I put my original comment on was just to put one post on. It's only because of you , and other posters, quoting me back and being unpleasant have I come back to answer your snide remarks.

You posted in AIBU. I gave an opinion. You didn't like my opinion. Fair enough. Why you and other posters have to be so unpleasant about it I don't know.

You have plenty of other pp backing you up. Why not just ignore what I had to say? Why post in AIBU if you don't want differing viewpoints?

You basically accused the OP of neglecting her cat. That's nasty and hardly just "offering an opinion" is it?

JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 15:31

SoupDragon · 18/09/2024 15:12

You basically accused the OP of neglecting her cat. That's nasty and hardly just "offering an opinion" is it?

This.

You told me I shouldn't own a cat. And inferred I'm an unfit owner.

Take your faux outrage elsewhere.

Maybe volunteer at some shelters where cats actually need help, then you wouldn't have the time or energy to misdirect your emotions at people that don't deserve it.

OP posts:
JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 15:32

SoupDragon · 18/09/2024 15:11

What you need is a cosy cat sleeping bag...

(Facebook reels clearly has an amazing algorithm to show me this right now!)

Edited

Ok forget the cat, do they do them in human size!?

OP posts:
takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 15:33

JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 15:31

This.

You told me I shouldn't own a cat. And inferred I'm an unfit owner.

Take your faux outrage elsewhere.

Maybe volunteer at some shelters where cats actually need help, then you wouldn't have the time or energy to misdirect your emotions at people that don't deserve it.

Edited

She said this after you called her a martyr and said you might nominate her for a Pride of Britain award.

LuckySantangelo35 · 18/09/2024 15:37

takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 15:33

She said this after you called her a martyr and said you might nominate her for a Pride of Britain award.

@takealettermsjones

well to be fair that kind of reponse is to be expected when the poster is implying that good cat ownership means sacrificing your own sleep to accommodate the cats preference to be in your bedroom!

JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 15:39

takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 15:33

She said this after you called her a martyr and said you might nominate her for a Pride of Britain award.

Nope. Her very first words on the thread was 'poor cat'

She then followed up with how I need to put the emotional needs of my cat above my own.

Which is ridiculous

OP posts:
DrummingMousWife · 18/09/2024 15:39

Oh dear. You haven’t accepted that this is “his”
house now……..

just a joke from another cat slave 😂

takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 15:43

LuckySantangelo35 · 18/09/2024 15:37

@takealettermsjones

well to be fair that kind of reponse is to be expected when the poster is implying that good cat ownership means sacrificing your own sleep to accommodate the cats preference to be in your bedroom!

I do agree that that kind of response has come to be expected on this website.

cardibach · 18/09/2024 15:44

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 18/09/2024 09:46

Good luck OP. I'm not a cat person at all, DP and DD are. I managed to resist us getting a cat for about 13 years until I finally caved over COVID.

My two rules were that I didn't have to deal with food or poo, and that the cat didn't enter our bedroom.

Rule 1 is still in effect 3 years later, but rule 2 had no hope. Cats do not do closed doors. Cats will sit and yowl, and scratch, and pull the carpet up, and stick their paws under the door, and will not let you sleep until you let the bloody cat in.

The annoying thing is that given the choice, she'll sleep in DDs room. However the moment she hears our door shut she's outside ours complaining about the situation.

I’ve had a total of 6 cats over the years - a mix of rescues and friends’ cats ‘accidents’. Some from kittens, some have arrived as adults. None have ever come into my bedroom, or scratched and yowled outside it. It’s not inevitable. If yours won’t, then shut them somewhere else and don’t give in. Sleep training for cats.

takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 15:47

JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 15:39

Nope. Her very first words on the thread was 'poor cat'

She then followed up with how I need to put the emotional needs of my cat above my own.

Which is ridiculous

Yep. And those words don't imply you shouldn't own a cat, do they? Those words reflect her opinion. She didn't start talking about "why bother to own a cat" until you were rude and mocking to her.

You're entitled to think her opinion is ridiculous, of course. But why did you post in AIBU if you didn't want to hear any opposing views?

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 18/09/2024 15:51

cardibach · 18/09/2024 15:44

I’ve had a total of 6 cats over the years - a mix of rescues and friends’ cats ‘accidents’. Some from kittens, some have arrived as adults. None have ever come into my bedroom, or scratched and yowled outside it. It’s not inevitable. If yours won’t, then shut them somewhere else and don’t give in. Sleep training for cats.

Eh, the ship has sailed at this point, its been 3 years. I'm sure the cat could have learnt, but it would have meant DP being far more on top of it, and it turns out that wasn't going to happen.

My real issue would be with having her anywhere near my pillow, and to be fair to her she worked out pretty damn quick that that was non negotiable and always stays at the bottom of the bed.

SutekhsEars · 18/09/2024 15:53

Puppylucky · 18/09/2024 08:50

Off topic but when did the humble ginger cat get rebranded Orange? You see it all the time on Instagram and I find it mildly odd!

There's nothing humble about my ginger boy!

LuckySantangelo35 · 18/09/2024 15:53

takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 15:47

Yep. And those words don't imply you shouldn't own a cat, do they? Those words reflect her opinion. She didn't start talking about "why bother to own a cat" until you were rude and mocking to her.

You're entitled to think her opinion is ridiculous, of course. But why did you post in AIBU if you didn't want to hear any opposing views?

@takealettermsjones

the opposing view being that OP’s need for sleep should come second to her cat’s want to be in her bedroom? No one has to hear that and not be like 🙄

amylou8 · 18/09/2024 15:58

If he's the other side of the door to you he'll want to come in, and will scratch at the door until he gets his way (and howl loudly if he's anything like mine!).
Mine get shut in the kitchen all night, with access to the garden. I don't worry if it's a bit chilly, they've got nice fur coats. I just put them some cosy beds in there.