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Nursery staff won't provide out of hours care?

159 replies

ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:29

My baby goes to a council run/owned nursery. I want to go out for dinner next week two nights on the go - with a friend. However baby will need looking after.

Everyone says to ask the nursery staff, which I'm 100% comfortable with them looking after the baby, but it's a council run nursery and I don't think they would be allowed to?

It would be so ideal if one of the workers I already know could do it :/

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ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:49

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Youmwarayoum · 18/09/2024 01:43

Yes, I was happy to leave my child with someone who knew him, and who my child knew, meaning that it was a stress free experience for all…so yes, it was marvellous actually!

Says much about morals

ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:50

Poopdetective · 18/09/2024 01:48

My kiddo has been in 2 nurseries, one had a strict ‘no babysitting’ policy, the other is fine with it.

The issue is that some nurseries believe that their insurance might be claimed upon if an issue arose during babysitting, which is possible from a legal perspective (although not straight forward)

Interesting how the nursery insurance can be claimed upon?

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ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:52

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I have a very happy life thank you. One that didn't invole putting my selfish needs above those of my children.

OatFlatWhiteForMePlease · 18/09/2024 01:52

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What a rude response.

ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:52

ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:49

Says much about morals

Or fuck it because col?

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ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:53

OatFlatWhiteForMePlease · 18/09/2024 01:52

What a rude response.

Don't need women being judgemental on this board.

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Ohiwish12 · 18/09/2024 01:54

ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:45

Of course they can say no. What on earth makes you think they would be forced to look after children after work? Local councils, as far as I am aware, do not force employees to do o.o.h. work with no right of refusal, we aren't quite living under a communist regime yet...

I meant I don't think the council run nursery owners can say no to staff who may choose to do babysitting in their own time! Not that staff can't say no to a babysitting request! 🙄 At no point did I state that employees would be forced to do o.o.h work...

ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:54

ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:45

Lol omfg

And this is funny how?

Youmwarayoum · 18/09/2024 01:56

ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:49

Says much about morals

Ensuring my child is safe and comfortable and with someone we both trust is a lot more important to me than what you very strangely call morals.

Canonlythinkofthisone · 18/09/2024 01:57

ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:53

Don't need women being judgemental on this board.

Says the woman claiming others have a sad life. Pot kettle black....

ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:57

Youmwarayoum · 18/09/2024 01:56

Ensuring my child is safe and comfortable and with someone we both trust is a lot more important to me than what you very strangely call morals.

The morals of an employee happy to beak their contract of employment are questionable

ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:58

Canonlythinkofthisone · 18/09/2024 01:57

Says the woman claiming others have a sad life. Pot kettle black....

It's not.

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Youmwarayoum · 18/09/2024 01:59

ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:57

The morals of an employee happy to beak their contract of employment are questionable

Their employment contract is their business, not mine. They are free to say no, and I’m not going to judge anyone who gets paid peanuts doing extra work on the side.

ItsTheGAGGGGGGGG · 18/09/2024 02:01

Youmwarayoum · 18/09/2024 01:56

Ensuring my child is safe and comfortable and with someone we both trust is a lot more important to me than what you very strangely call morals.

Literally….

ObnoxiousOik · 18/09/2024 02:09

ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:53

Don't need women being judgemental on this board.

You are posting on MumsNet.

Of course you are going to be judged. Haven’t you read any other threads here?

PyongyangKipperbang · 18/09/2024 02:32

It was a very common clause when my eldest DS started nursery 30 odd years ago!

It goes.....first kid goes to nursery, all is fine. Second kid is on the way and ma and pa do the maths and realise that a nanny is cheaper than two kids in nursery and because one of the nursery nurses already knows the kids and babysits for them on the side, they offer her the job. So babysitting between nursery workers and service users meant that if they owners got wind, the parents care contract would be terminated and it counts as gross misconduct with the nursery worker so they lose their job with no notice.

6 kids here and this has been in every nursery contract since, so I would assume that this is the case now.

So you would be risking her job and your kids nursery place.

HowYouSpellingThat10 · 18/09/2024 02:56

Could you just ask them if they know of any local babysitters/is there anyone they can recommend to you?

If it's something they do then they'll volunteer it. Otherwise you might get contact details for someone else for future.

temperedolive · 18/09/2024 03:09

You're coming across as quite difficult here.

You're complaining about being judged, but you've posted in AIBU. The whole point of this forum is asking for judgements on your actions. If you just want to know about child care, there's a whole other area dedicated to that. Also, being worried you might get told off is rather rich when you're happy to tell other posters they have sad lives.

FiveShelties · 18/09/2024 03:20

ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:53

Don't need women being judgemental on this board.

Hmmmm.......

Fizzywizzymissy · 18/09/2024 03:25

Some people are too immature to be parents. Grow up and ask the nursery directly. No one here knows their policy.

You are going to have a hard time as your child gets older if you can't ask a question because you're worried about being "told off". Gosh, I feel for your poor child.

Moveornot2 · 18/09/2024 03:28

Our nursery had a list of staff who did babysitting , I just called the office

Sodullincomparison · 18/09/2024 03:31

I’m a Nominated individual of a group of nurseries and we have policies saying no out of hours babysitting. This is mostly due to our liability should anything happen to the child or employee.

also if there are any disagreements about payments or behaviour etc.

we have had staff take annual leave in order to babysit for families of three or more without letting us know.

I think it does happen without the nursery manager knowing but we really wouldn’t support it.

ChampagneLassie · 18/09/2024 04:50

It’s obvious why nurseries have rules like this. You could try asking one of the staff on the fly and you might get lucky but if it’s in their contracts they’re unlikely to flout that. Use childcare.co.uk - it’s brilliant you’ll find lots of experienced childminders on their. I’ve got a manager from another nursery to the one I’m my daughter attends who now comes regularly to us in evenings. Ask to see their DBS and CB and ID - I think you should easily be able to sense of who is decent.

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