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DS aged 3.9 is stood on our gate …

211 replies

indurently · 17/09/2024 13:29

He’s looking at cars, tractors and so on. We live on a country road. I’m pushing his sister on a swing.

And a couple just walked by and told me he shouldn’t be on the gate.

Racking my brains somewhat as to what we have done wrong!

OP posts:
DickEmery · 17/09/2024 14:35

crumblingschools · 17/09/2024 14:30

Was he rude to them as they walked by? Was he standing on the wrong end?

Good point. Was he upside down OP? Is he three and nine months or three and ten point eight months? What is stood? I have never before encountered such a word. What does it mean? What is a gate? Are you rural? We are rural. Are you sure it was your gate? Have you checked the deeds? Before you know it there will be an elderly Korean lady stood on your spiky cow rural gate and all hell will break loose. Best go back in your house OP. Take your stood child of indeterminate age with you. Don't answer the door. I mean this kindly. It's for the best.

ABirdsEyeView · 17/09/2024 14:36

Your gate, your child, your business!

Sone people just can't help themselves and have to pass comment out loud on things which would be better staying in their heads.

ABirdsEyeView · 17/09/2024 14:38

@DickEmery Grin

BarbaraHoward · 17/09/2024 14:38

DappledThings · 17/09/2024 14:33

Yes, as already explained. He was standing on it. He stood on it would be a completed action. He was standing on it was a continuing action. He was stood is incorrect.

Same with sitting and sat. He sat on the sofa. He was sitting on the sofa.

Is it rude to pick up on SPAG errors? The jury's still out. But in this case you asked so I've answered.

She's writing informally and used a long-established regional phrase in a way that was perfectly understandable. She's grand.

And as for 3.9 - again, I think it was pretty clear, but any decimal wouldn't have changed the meaning, so who cares.

knittingdad · 17/09/2024 14:39

My niece is 3y6m and the last time I saw her she was adroitly clambering over her Grandpa's old steel tubes and broken-down boat. I wouldn't be concerned at all about her standing partway up a gate.

People generally are too restrictive of what children should be allowed to do.

BarbaraHoward · 17/09/2024 14:39

DickEmery · 17/09/2024 14:35

Good point. Was he upside down OP? Is he three and nine months or three and ten point eight months? What is stood? I have never before encountered such a word. What does it mean? What is a gate? Are you rural? We are rural. Are you sure it was your gate? Have you checked the deeds? Before you know it there will be an elderly Korean lady stood on your spiky cow rural gate and all hell will break loose. Best go back in your house OP. Take your stood child of indeterminate age with you. Don't answer the door. I mean this kindly. It's for the best.

Grin

Was he eating some UPF while he was stood standing there?

BarbaraHoward · 17/09/2024 14:40

DickEmery · 17/09/2024 14:28

How come only rural gates are damaged by lack of hinge proximity?

Anyway tell them to fuck off OP. If they've already gone past, run after them and shout fuck off at them.

Size matters, I guess.

(More stress on the hinge the further along you are, which isn't likely to be very far in non-rural settings.)

Moonshiners · 17/09/2024 14:43

Malvala · 17/09/2024 13:39

Sorry I cannot understand is stood. Is it is standing, or stood??? Is stood doesn't make any sense to me.

Pedant in action. Very good

FeedingThem · 17/09/2024 14:43

gapattachment · 17/09/2024 14:27

It’s just shorthand for three years nine months.

It's really not.

Does it really matter? Ops kid is 3 coming 4. So not a just turned 3 toddler but practically a preschooler.

AAudreyHorne · 17/09/2024 14:44

DappledThings · 17/09/2024 14:33

Yes, as already explained. He was standing on it. He stood on it would be a completed action. He was standing on it was a continuing action. He was stood is incorrect.

Same with sitting and sat. He sat on the sofa. He was sitting on the sofa.

Is it rude to pick up on SPAG errors? The jury's still out. But in this case you asked so I've answered.

Be careful if you go to Lancashire or Yorkshire, there's a very strong chance you won't understand what anyone is saying.
It is common in these areas to say 'he was stood there' or 'she is stood by the fire'.
It's a regional dialect. It may not be grammatically correct, but lots of regional dialect isn't.
You are nitpicking over an irrelevant point in a post about something completely different.
Like most of MN at the moment.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 17/09/2024 14:45

DickEmery · 17/09/2024 14:28

How come only rural gates are damaged by lack of hinge proximity?

Anyway tell them to fuck off OP. If they've already gone past, run after them and shout fuck off at them.

In rural areas, rights of way usually pass through other people's land, so learning to respect other people's property - including their gates - is more of an issue than in the city. Climbing over other people's gates is a big no-no.

Think about the impact of damaging a normal city garden gate. The only one you use frequently is likely to be your own, and the impact of damaging it is fairly minimal.

Now think about the gates you might pass through while walking through a farmyard, and the impact of damaging them. They see a lot more traffic than the average garden gate, and are likely to be the farmer's only means of securing a field that contains livestock. They are also likely to be a lot more expensive to repair/replace than a normal garden gate.

DickEmery · 17/09/2024 14:46

The Beatles would never have cracked America if they'd written I Saw Her Stood There. And rightly so!

DappledThings · 17/09/2024 14:47

BarbaraHoward · 17/09/2024 14:38

She's writing informally and used a long-established regional phrase in a way that was perfectly understandable. She's grand.

And as for 3.9 - again, I think it was pretty clear, but any decimal wouldn't have changed the meaning, so who cares.

Is it regional? I've seen and heard people use sit/sitting and stood/standing incorrectly from all over the country. I'm not convinced.

Does it matter if someone uses the wrong word in a quick online post? Probably not. In this case OP asked if there was a SPAG error so I assumed she had at least a passing interest in a correction and understanding the error.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 17/09/2024 14:47

DappledThings · 17/09/2024 14:33

Yes, as already explained. He was standing on it. He stood on it would be a completed action. He was standing on it was a continuing action. He was stood is incorrect.

Same with sitting and sat. He sat on the sofa. He was sitting on the sofa.

Is it rude to pick up on SPAG errors? The jury's still out. But in this case you asked so I've answered.

The purpose of language is to communicate with each other. The OP's post was perfectly clear, despite being informally phrased.

It is definitely rude to point out SPAG errors.

Not just that, but it makes the pedant look foolish when the writer was obviously using local dialect/slang. It certainly doesn't make them look clever - quite the opposite.

HauntedbyMagpies · 17/09/2024 14:48

TheCultureHusks · 17/09/2024 13:36

Haha I used to love it when randoms gave unsolicited orders like that! He ‘shouldn’t’? Um and they get to decide that how?

My go to reply was ‘Silence please, that’s not for you to comment on’

But ordering people to be "silent" is absolutely fine......Hmm

DappledThings · 17/09/2024 14:48

AAudreyHorne · 17/09/2024 14:44

Be careful if you go to Lancashire or Yorkshire, there's a very strong chance you won't understand what anyone is saying.
It is common in these areas to say 'he was stood there' or 'she is stood by the fire'.
It's a regional dialect. It may not be grammatically correct, but lots of regional dialect isn't.
You are nitpicking over an irrelevant point in a post about something completely different.
Like most of MN at the moment.

Never claimed I didn't understand it. I answered OP's question about whether she'd made an error. I didn't point it put off my own bat.

HauntedbyMagpies · 17/09/2024 14:49

Leafcutterantsarecool · 17/09/2024 13:38

In general I banned my children from standing or climbing on gates, but I grew up around horses and was always taught it potentially damages the gate/pulls it off the hinges, so it was just never allowed.

But in this instance it’s obviously your property and your own garden gate and it’s your kid, so it’s up to you and they are extremely rude mentioning it!

What on earth does any of that have to do with horses?!?!? 🤣🤦‍♀️

Waffle78 · 17/09/2024 14:50

Putting weight on the gate causes the gate to drop. Making it difficult to open and close. Fine if it's your own gate but he's doing it on public property.

Twinklefloss · 17/09/2024 14:51

Maybe they were complaining, knowing that you would report it as “stood” (incorrect past tense) instead of “standing” (correct)?

but more likely it is as other posters have pointed out; even if ds is light, he will be exerting force and damaging the hinge on the gate if he doesn’t stand by the hinge.

angstypant · 17/09/2024 14:51

stayathomegardener · 17/09/2024 13:37

If you stand or climb over on the end furthest away from the hinges it causes the gate to drop.

Very bad countryside etiquette.

On your own gate you can do what you want

angstypant · 17/09/2024 14:52

pikkumyy77 · 17/09/2024 13:44

Well they don’t know that do they?

If the OP is in some random person's garden using their swing then standing on the gate would be the least thing to comment on.

Mirabai · 17/09/2024 14:52

Standing/stood, sitting/sat is a common tense error. In some cases it’s regional in others it’s just a mistake. I’ve heard Davina McCall and Jack Whitehall use it and I don’t think we can say they’re from rural Yorkshire. 🤓

Mirabai · 17/09/2024 14:53

If they come back OP just say: my gate, my son, my choice.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 17/09/2024 14:54

Flippin eck, the pedants are out in force today!

Nocheezesforusmeeses · 17/09/2024 14:55

DickEmery · 17/09/2024 14:46

The Beatles would never have cracked America if they'd written I Saw Her Stood There. And rightly so!

There you go, OP.
Don’t try and “crack America” with your mumsnet post. You’ll only be disappointed