P Diddy arrested

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P Diddy has been arrested on unspecified federal charges. There have been two raids on his properties relating to sex trafficking. He's also faced a series of allegations of sexual abuse including from his ex Cassie. There was CCTV evidence of him physically assaulting her and she claims she was raped and trafficked by him.

Other women have come forward accusing him of various offences including sexual assault. I'm wondering why these men get away with their criminal behaviour for so long. Why after #metoo are women being sexually abused by powerful men and what can be done about it?

People must have known what Diddy was doing for years, why didn't people come forward?

Just heard some detail on BBC world service, sounded horrendous

Struggling with some of the stuff lately. This, the Miss Switzerland crime which was unbelievably abhorrent, the court case for the cross bow case, Edwards messaging

So much hideous stuff

He has been denied bail and will be in jail until his trial starts. I'm glad he's not allowed bail. He's a monster

I am surprised, I was sure he would get bail, so glad I was wrong. No doubt his lawyers will continue to try to get him out on bail though.

Hope his victims finally get justice.

It's not just that Diddy has wealth and influence in the music/entertaiment biz that's kept people quiet, this man also has a lot of connections with, shall we say, 'shady' individuals.

He's been doing this same shit since day one and other people with power who could have done something have looked the other way. It took one brave woman to stand up and say "This person abused me" and file a lawsuit. I hope he gets what he so richly deserves.

There a difference in 'arrested' in the UK and the US. In the US 'arrested' means they have probable cause and you will be charged. So this is serious shit he's in. In the UK I believe people can be 'arrested' and just brought in for questioning without probable cause. At least that's what I picked up from 'Line of Duty', lol.

Bail is denied because he's a flight risk and because he has the 'means' to continue his crimes clandestinely and to try and influence/intimidate witnesses.

Two words. Money and power.

I don't think any of us are worthy to post on your thread. You seem outraged at the prospect that people 'didn't speak up' against JS, pDiddy, and have managed to show your ire for 'gangsta' rappers all in one thread. When you're done righting the wrongs of the world do check back in to let us know how it went!

I'll PM you. Thanks for dropping in.

People did speak out on Saville but they were hushed. The police couldn't do anything, many people protected him and doing so means they were protecting themselves. Their jobs and their privilege in society.

The same with Puffy. People have been speaking on his criminal behaviour since the 1990s and no one took them seriously. This happened in North America, to mostly black victims, most likely regular people who are not rich so no they didn't have a chance for justice at that time. When Cassie served Puffy last year with her lawsuit, again, a lot of people were defending Puffy and asked why didn't Cassie leave she's only after the money. It is/was ridiculous.

Why are women being used and abused today, like yesterday, and throughout history? Because no one really cares. They just talk, say the right things etc but there is little actual action in the moment. Not everyone wants to step in when they see something happen. They don't want to report it to the police. They hope someone else will do it. I'm not saying this is right, it's just what I see.

Wendy Williams spoke out on Puffy on her radio show, probably late 1990s/early 00s. Puffy got her sacked. Puffy has ended people's lives, their livelihoods etc. Regular folks didn't really have a chance. Puffy played on their dreams and took advantage while the public and the music industry looked on. In the Music Industry some of this stuff is every day shit.

As a PP has referenced - this guy has been recorded speaking on things that he does and the TV production companies played the footage to the world. All the MTV Making the Band episodes and all the rest.

Whew OP - you literally asked "why didn't people come forward?"

Then attack posters for responding to that question. Not justifying, just explaining their perspective on the "why" question you posed.

This is a serious topic - turn your anger to the people that require it .

People did speak out about Savile

he was more powerful, he was threatening and no doubt held secrets

Epstein held secrets and was a powerful bully

Diddy the same

and we have been recently hearing about Huw Edward’s being a bully

yet those that really are in a position to take them down then a blind eye why because of money they are all successful men who use their powerful positions knowing they can get away with it

People did speak out and they were silenced @poppyzbrite4. They were threatened with violence. They were threatened by lawyers. Their careers were ended. They were bought off.

Jimmy Saville and the @MeToo movement could have been a watershed moment in the treatment of women in the entertainment industry and across society. Unsurprisingly that's not how it worked out.

Well he was friends with Trump. These people hate women.

Do you understand those who observed Jimmy Saville raping children in hospitals as well

Nobody observed this. You can deplore what he did without being a twit.

It was well known what happened, nurses told children to pretend to be asleep when he was there. They knew. They did not do enough.

There was a children's home I remember reading about an enquiry in the 80s I think and again 20 years later when the children were adults. Both enquiries concluded that there was "Nothing to see here"

Nothing changes.

I’m surprised there hadn’t been a full Me-Too movement in the music industry. There isn’t a social media site which doesn’t contain allegations about very prominent singers, rockers, bands, and rappers from the 1960s onwards.

Household names coming up time and time again from different people. Abusive situations like Bill Wyman and Mandy Smith were celebrated in the tabloid press!

Its a cesspit which attracts abusive men who are given cover by sycophants wanting money and their own turn to be the rich bully. If he’s so inclined the star knows he can probably get away with murder and be protected. they are egged on to become more depraved by our circle who just want free drugs and money.

Diddy’s abusive ways and ripping off artists has been known for ages but he was protected by other very powerful abusers. I wonder if he will name names?

You obviously know nothing about the case. Hospital staff have said that they knew what Savile was doing but because he brought in so much funding, they turned a blind eye. He was called a nonce and kiddy fiddler by the staff.

In the investigation it was uncovered that BBC management were aware of his abuse, particularly his preference for young boys but covered it up.

I have been looking for information on this but can't find anything. I can only see allegations going back to the 90s that have come from recent lawsuits.

Do you have an article that details this please?

You have to remember that when someone is rich and powerful they have access to the BEST lawyers and therefore, it can take years to build up a case strong enough to make sure someone gets convicted. As I don't think you can get tried for the same crimes twice.

Therefore in a case like this, I can see why it's taken so long - I'd rather the police wait a bit longer to make sure he goes down then go in too early and loose on some silly technicalities.

@TooBigForMyBoots can you tell us more? What did he do?

That’s not strictly true re JS, the police in some cases, decided not to investigate, they actively protected him, and then would pop round his house for tea. It’s not all about victims dropping complaints, it’s about the police refusing to do their job.

I've been doing some digging and 50 Cent has apparently been talking about Diddy for a while. He said that the reason celebrities didn't speak out was because many were involved:

“Some of them were involved, at the parties and enjoyed themselves, so they don’t know what the fuck is on tape or what’s not on tape, so they’re not going to say anything because they might have had too much fun.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/50-cent-reveals-the-weird-shit-that-made-him-turn-on-diddy

It isn't just about being able to pay the lawyers it is also about the out of court settlements with NDAs

I think Puffy will say some names. Not sure why but I think he'll want to take at least 1 person down with him.

The stealing of copyright is what angers me. I hope he loses everything. Just like some of the creators he has ripped off.