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To ask which country you would not visit again and why?

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travelcat · 15/09/2024 19:58

I love hearing about travel experiences and am interested in knowing about places you have visited that you wouldn't go back to.

AIBU to ask which country you'd avoid in the future and what specifically made your experience less enjoyable? Was it due to culture, safety, or something else?

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Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 16/09/2024 04:32

honeyrider · 16/09/2024 00:52

I'll be booking flights to Australia in the next couple of days and was planning on stopping in Dubai for one night to break up the journey, now I'm rethinking route if it's as bad as mentioned here.

It's not always good to listen to some randomers on the Internet. For example, Turkey is mentioned alot here in a negative way however i love the place. I would say see for yourself. It's only one night.

travellinglighter · 16/09/2024 04:41

Dubai and Cape Verde. As has been said, Dubai is a soulless hellhole chock full of shopping malls. If you want to shop in next then better to nip to your local one rather than fly somewhere tax free and pay a third more.

Cape Verde, bored and wind blasted the whole week I was there.

I have traveled to most of the places being talked about, loved most of the,. I realise most North African countries are difficult for women, I’m not female and therefore don’t have the same issues.

Thailand can be very sleazy but you can avoid the sleazy bits even in Bangkok. Koh Samui was lovely 30 years ago but has been overdeveloped.

mids2019 · 16/09/2024 04:46

I am surprised no one has piped up that this thread is Islamaphobic yet as a number of Muslim majority countries are mentioned. It interesting that someone mentioned that harassment maybe partly a woman's fault (?) for not wearing clothes associated with cultural norms. I guess if you wear a headless and gown you may have a better experience in these countries but aren't you really bowing down to the patriarchy in a way unpalatable to women?

personally I wouldn't visit a Muslim majority country out of choice for the reasons given by pp which is a real shame as they probably are some architectural delights. I simply don't want to absorb a culture which degrades women as a holiday experience.

savvy7 · 16/09/2024 04:55

Agree with the poster who mentioned Thailand. There really is a very sleazy undercurrent, particularly in Bangkok. You don't have to go to sleazy places to encounter that either. Young girls with old men at the airport, luxury hotels etc.

thebestinterest · 16/09/2024 05:00

Judellie · 15/09/2024 20:34

Mexico. Only went to Tijuana but felt really unsafe as a white woman despite being with dh,it was full of awful men, couldn't get out quick enough.

Mexico scares me as well.

bambara · 16/09/2024 05:08

LifeExperience · 16/09/2024 02:32

Will never return to Africa or any majority Muslim country. Not pleasant, not safe.

Wow this is the most blanket ignorant statement I've read on here in a long time !

Drawahardline · 16/09/2024 05:10

@honeyrider stopover in Singapore instead, lovely airport and safer imo. How exciting- oz is a wonderful place.

Lentilweaver · 16/09/2024 05:12

None. Happy to go anywhere.

Lentilweaver · 16/09/2024 05:23

mids2019 · 16/09/2024 04:46

I am surprised no one has piped up that this thread is Islamaphobic yet as a number of Muslim majority countries are mentioned. It interesting that someone mentioned that harassment maybe partly a woman's fault (?) for not wearing clothes associated with cultural norms. I guess if you wear a headless and gown you may have a better experience in these countries but aren't you really bowing down to the patriarchy in a way unpalatable to women?

personally I wouldn't visit a Muslim majority country out of choice for the reasons given by pp which is a real shame as they probably are some architectural delights. I simply don't want to absorb a culture which degrades women as a holiday experience.

So no visiting
Dubai
Indonesia
Egypt
Turkey
Malaysia
Jordan
among others, then?

I have never bothered with Dubai as shopping interests me not at all but Egypt, Turkey and Malaysia were all fabulous travel experiences for me. I would go back in a heartbeat. In Turkey and Malaysia I travelled solo with no trouble.

mids2019 · 16/09/2024 05:36

I just think of you look at the above countries and the views of women and gay people I would have my doubts. I would think there are some fascinating places to visit but is it worth paying yourself open to assault? I don't think I could truly feel comfortable in a culture where I was a second class citizen.

I guess men can behave with relative impunity as the police will not intervene which makes it all the more scary. I also don't believe women should have to dress apprortiately to hide from the male.gaze, thank you. Again just one opinion.

YellowComb · 16/09/2024 05:37

Dubai - used to live there. Singapore - used to live there. Singapore is ok I suppose for a holiday if you like that sort of thing.

The Azores ( I know it's not a country but a region). Backwards in all the wrong sort of ways.

Lentilweaver · 16/09/2024 05:49

I have felt much safer in Malaysia and Turkey wearing shorts than in Trump's America as a brown person. No guns at least.

Also there are plenty of conservative non Muslim majority countries too.

Happiestwhen · 16/09/2024 05:52

dayswithaY · 15/09/2024 20:32

Thailand. I know most people love it but I felt a sleazy/sinister undercurrent everywhere. Older European men shouting at their female Thai “companion”, the live sex shows, dodgy men on mopeds zooming into you, drug dealers, stray cats and dogs roaming everywhere, surly hotel staff. Plus animal cruelty with elephants and monkeys being paraded at terrible roadside shows for money. Just felt like exploitation was everywhere, so depressing.

Also, won’t go back to the Caribbean- beautiful place, lovely people but just can’t get over being in a luxury hotel next to people living in tin shacks with no money. Then being told not to venture outside the security gates in case the same people decide to rob you, it just feels wrong.

Me too, everyone else seems to love it. I loved the scenery but that was all.

Bertgotkinky · 16/09/2024 06:03

User19977999 · 15/09/2024 20:40

What part of Thailand? I’ve been several times and would agree to an extent about some areas but those areas are well known and remainder of Thailand is beautiful.

And your comment is bang on the money. I live in Thailand absolutely no where near the known areas as described by the poster. There are a great many beautiful places in Thailand. I live rurally, I am the only white face for 6km, the only foreigner in my village (everyone knows me and stops for a chat ( I speak Thai so there’s no language barrier). The nearest big town is 34km away followed by two more at 90 and 104km respectively. There is nothing more pleasurable than plucking a fresh coconut or banana from the trees in your garden. For me it’s absolutely paradise. The country I hated and would never go back to is Kuwait filthy rich Arabs constantly bullying the real workers, Bangladeshis.

Lentilweaver · 16/09/2024 06:09

Love Thailand. Found it quite easy to avoid sex shows amd farangs with young girlfriends.

If one is sensitive to stray animals then of course most of Asia is ruled out except Singapore which is super boring. Most of the world does not have equal rights for women or animals or gay people. But I don't really want to spend my life travelling only in Northern Europe.

I might point out a little known fact: Homosexuality was illegal in super santitised Singapore until quite recently. Though perhaps only de facto, not de jure.

LeoOakley · 16/09/2024 06:33

Hopealong · 15/09/2024 22:51

Yep another who likes Belgium. Particularly Ghent and Ypres.
Now live in Southern Europe and to be honest there is nowhere in Europe I would say I wouldn't travel to. But I don't think I will ever go outside of Europe again, not that I dislike the places I have been to just feel there is enough in Europe to keep me happy

I am the same. Now live in Southern Europe and am only really interested in what is in abundance, on our doorstep.

Can't really imagine doing the long haul treks of my youth again - even if 5 star!

I don't recognise some of the descriptions of some places here, but in spirit of the thread I would say India, and for reasons covered by pp.

Cities, Istanbul and Cairo for the leering men. I felt harassed to the point of simply wanting to leave. I wonder how many women miss out on seeing so much of a place due to lecherous fucking men!!

Lentilweaver · 16/09/2024 06:36

I meant de jure not de facto. Need coffee.

MuchuseasaChocolateTeapot · 16/09/2024 06:36

Mainland Spain. Just come back from our first visit, loved Madrid but had tyre stabbed in Valencia and found a lot of people in Barcelona to be downright hostile. Vegetarian food very thin on the ground for my DD.

Israel - by far the rudest people I’ve ever met. Only went to Eilat though so possibly better elsewhere.

Dubai - great hotel but the prices 😳. Also hated seeing the migrant workers building in the just excessive heat. Only there for 2 days and was bored.

To finish in a better note, love Canada, India, Italy, Scandinavia (although mosquitoes in Finland in June were relentless). New Zealand beautiful, Zimbabwe, Mauritius lovely.

Squirrelsnut · 16/09/2024 06:36

Fuerteventura. The coast was pretty but I find rocky, arid landscapes dull after 10 minutes. It wasn't horrible just not for me.

RedHotChilliPreppers · 16/09/2024 06:37

”except Singapore which is super boring”

I have lived in Singapore twice, for a total of 11 years. Believe me, it’s no where near as boring as the UK. Beaches, great food, lovely people, work hard/ play hard, lots of nature and people from different cultures who get along, and mix with each other.

Much better than successive corrupt governments, massive taxes, worrying about your DD’s going to a concert or about getting stabbed when you go out. Now that’s all really tedious.

Lentilweaver · 16/09/2024 06:42

@RedHotChilliPreppers I can see all that to live in- have lots of friends there- but purely to visit, I think there are more exciting countries nearby.

KimberleyClark · 16/09/2024 06:44

mrsrobin · 15/09/2024 20:20

Yes their immigration staff are really unfriendly! I know immigration staff are hardly ever chatty but they seem very unwelcoming.

A friend of mine has dual UK/US citizenship and whenever he travels to the US on his US passport the immigration staff are very friendly and say "welcome home sir!".

saraclara · 16/09/2024 06:47

Most of you should just stay home. The world is wasted on you.

Seriously, this is a really depressing thread, filled with ignorance.

Flopsy145 · 16/09/2024 06:58

Egypt, lecherous men constantly trying to touch you especially my poor blonde friend.
Similar experience in turkey but really only in markets.

Shame how most of our reasons are lecherous or worse men 😒

Also Lanzarote, just full of typical loud English tourists.

EI12 · 16/09/2024 06:59

CoolShoeshine · 15/09/2024 21:17

I'm saying this lightheartedly because it's trivial compared to some of the reasons on here but the bloody tipping culture in the US is enough to put me off going there again. Bloody rude service in New York restaurants and then being told that you have to tip the misery who dumped a plate in front of you 20% as they dont get a living wage, what the hell!

I agree, I always tip - my dd works as a waitress and I despise people who don't tip, but in the US it is shocking. Service charge set at a certain percentage and then in the bill, tips are set at a certain percentage - when I said to the waiter, no, please remove the 20% tip because I always tip 10%, the waiter removed the tip altogether and when I left 10% on the table, he ran out of the restaurant after me, shoved the money at me and said 'you clearly need this more than I do'. In front of my dc.

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