To wonder how people afford weight loss injections?!

[Karmacharm]

So many people I know are doing Mounjaro or Ozempic. I’ve looked at the price online and even with the discount it’s still hugely expensive in this cost of living crisis.
I would love to do it but there’s no way I can afford it long term.

Cheaper than food addiction

I guess slim people feel they are losing their competitive advantage.

Do you mean some slim people?
You're doing exactly what you're upset about - saying that all slim people think the same about all obese people.

Some slim people.

Ok, some slim people. Although I thought it would be obvious that I meant ‘the ones who are pissed off’, in the context of the discussion that was taking place.

As someone who is very overweight I just didn't have a word for 'food noise' until I started weight loss injections and I actually didn't know how much of my headspace was taken up by it, until it was no longer there. The injections have given me the space to choose more nutritiously dense foods and not use food as a pick me up when feeling down.

I think we have to see and understand that a lot of the time obesity (especially in extreme cases) is not just someone being a bit greedy, but a genuine mental health issue. That could be food addiction, binge eating disorder, self harm by over consumption or a whole host of other things.

I used to work with a lady who was obese to the point that her life was very limited by it. She spoke about her weight very plainly and it was not due to a medical condition, but due to her overeating. I refuse to believe that someone who is entirely mentally well would choose to have their life limited so much for the sake of chocolate or takeaways. There is more to it.

I read that post to read, find the money to get the injection, the cost is negligible compared to leaving yourself open to possible organ damage and cancer , not that the injections cause these things

I keep thinking about it but I don’t actually eat much. It’s just what I eat that’s the problem 😂

And I am actually now a ‘slim person’ myself, thanks to MJ 😉

I can't wait until I can say that!

It shouldn't be about shifting responsibility. No weight loss treatment takes responsibility away. Weight loss surgery and injections all still required discipline and self control, as well as giving up things you might enjoy, alongside the treatment you are receiving for a medical condition. If you don't develop a different mindset about food alongside it, long term it won't work.

It's funny how a lot of people get on their moral high horse about dangerous weight loss drugs but were quite happy to see experimental COVID jabs forced on people.

As for those who think all medicines are bad and won't even take a paracetamol - good for you, you do you. What does it matter what anyone else chooses to do with their body?

The opinions on weight loss jabs always have a flavour of people thinking obesity is a moral failing, therefore people ought to suffer to lose weight as penance. Which we know doesn't work - yo yo dieting is worse for your health and weight than not dieting at all. So why continue to push an approach that fails most people, at least in the longer term?

It depends who’s taking it.
A person who’s obese because of binge eating will 100% save more money not binge eating than they spend on Mounjuro which is good as they’ll be on it for longer (potentially the rest of their lives).
For people like me with hormone conditions that cause insulin resistance and obesity there is a huge cost increase when you add in food etc but it is temporary as all the research suggests we’re more likely to be able to keep some / all the weight off permanently.

I’ve just ordered some - looking forward to getting started. I’m aware some people think it’s a cheats way of losing weight but at this stage in my life, I really don’t care!

"Maybe if you'd put all that in your post instead of "she's only lost 2 stone and is ............ grossly overweight"

The missing word is still which you 'forgot' to add, which makes my sentence read properly, IE Wegovy hasn't really helped her has it? Read the whole passage and stop projecting your own flaws via my post. My friend is never going to see it - I haven't put it on a postcard and sent it to her have I?🙄🙄🙄

Well it’s helped her to lose 2 stone. Every little helps.

Obviously not all slim people. Was replying to the posted talking about the slim people that are pissed off about people on weight loss jabs

Actually I think I'm close to being a slim person myself! Well 0.6 of a BMI from healthy BMI!

Ah, I see, should not be about taking away responsibility - in the same way, as in 'Oh, you admitted you are soooo scared, that is soooo brave!'

How does anyone ever afford anything?

I'm always mystified how people have their hair dyed every 6 weeks, nails done, tanning salons etc. Most people have at least some disposable income, they spend it or save up until it's enough.

It really should be on NHS though, people on low incomes need it most really as they'll be more likely to have other health problems too.

Eh?

I just wanted to add re the food noise which many of us have experienced for decades, dieting makes it worse. So as you try to solve the problem of excess weight the food noise intensifies.

This is one of the reasons I have always found losing weight compeltely all consuming and exhausting. To do it "successfully" takes everything just to get through the food noise. As as soon as your give up/relax a bit/try and take a break, the food noise is even lounder - it can dominate my mind.

Its been eye opening to realise so many people have this - and moving forward wouldnt it be wonderful if this could be unpicked more, cured even. I certainly like to know how to manage it as even though MJ quitens it, I don't think it's going to go away.

#NASPALT
(Not all slim people are like that)
😁😁

To answer OPs question, we have a high income as a household and have lots of disposable income, so that’s how we afford it.

To add to the general discussion, I lost 4 stone on Wegovy last year and then become pregnant. Naturally I wondered what would happen once i came off the drug, and obviously pregnancy is a notorious time for weight gain.

What I did find was that the 9 months on wegovy did have a lasting effect on my emotional eating habits. Even off the drug, I’m not looking to food or wine as comfort and I’m not anywhere near where I was in terms of finding excuses to eat like I was before. Previous to the drug, I’d find any reason to have a takeaway or go out for dinner, now I can fully take it or leave it. I suppose losing the weight contributed to me feeling so much better about myself that I no longer needed food to act as a quick ‘feel good’ fix.

that is very encouraging to hear @CaptinKitty

Not helped by the fact that the thing you are obsessed and addicted to cannot be avoided.

Drug addicts and alcoholics are told to stay away from their addiction, to break ties to the people who encourage them to partake, to stay away from the environments where they use.

Food though still has to be part of our lives at minimum 3 times a day p, every day.

Most of us are responsible for responsibly purchasing that food, for planning its cooking, for dispensing it to people reliant on us for it. We can't avoid it.

So we have to try to stop thinking about and abusing it, while also being around it and controlling it for other people all at the same time.