Stew meat was left out all night

[BeLoftyTurtle]

At relatives house and they have stew..... However they did the first phase of the stew last night by boiling the meat last night and left it on the stove. Today they added veggies and reheated/cooked veg in the stew.

Aibu in not eating it

Wouldn't bother me. I've often left food to cool on the side and forgot to put in the fridge til morning. It's hardly Dubai in August.

Refrigeration increases the time food can be safely kept for. Freezing increases it further. It's temperature AND time that matter.

I would eat a stew kept in the fridge for 3-4 days. I'd also happily eat a stew that had been left on the counter overnight. On the counter for 3-4 days? No thank you.

Made a beef and veg stew the other evening. Simmered till bed time. Left it out to cool overnight, fridge in morning. Absolutely fine.

There is a food temp danger zone

It's fine. Jeez.

Yes, but it is also time dependent. Otherwise, before refrigeration, all of our ancestors would have died unless they ate everything the moment they cooked it. They didn't (all die or eat everything the second it was cooked).

Do you have health or anxiety, you've said danger zone several times now.

I've done it a bunch of times either by simply forgetting or because I don't want to refrigerate warm food (which actually is a risk). Agree with others - it's time dependent.. overnight to cool is perfectly acceptable.. if it sat there and festered for a second night then absolutely not.

I think you're being a little OTT. You've asked what people think but don't want to listen to anyone who doesn't agree with you. Everyone has their own views on this and how relaxed they want to be or not. You clearly have yours so not really sure why you posted if you just want to disagree with anyone with a different opinion?

Of course it's time dependent, nobody is saying that it isn't, but leaving cooked meat at room temperature overnight means that it is potentially unsafe. The risk would further increase if left longer.

Is it generally more unwise to take a 5 hour drive than a 5 minute drive without wearing a seat belt? Yes. Would I do either in normal circumstances? No.

We do this all the time.

Newsflash: bacteria grows faster st room temperature. That’s why we all have that big box thing ( fridge) in our kitchens.

It's a well known term with regards to food hygiene? Google temperature danger zone.

Weirdo

A meat stew is highly unlikely to have e-coli or campylobacter in it. Unless it’s a chicken one, which the OP hasn’t mentioned. And salmonella can take that long but is usually evident within 24 hours.

People regularly died of food poisoning 😂.

It's beef.

I do this often. Meat stew is better the day after you make it, so you leave it overnight then heat again the next day. The 2-3 hrs cooking on the first day will have killed all bacteria, then if any start to breed overnight, they're also killed by another hour's cooking. Never been sick from it. I don't put it in the fridge overnight because often it's too hot at bedtime.

They really didn’t. As I said before, food poisoning really came out of the industrialisation of the meat industry and water was the main cause of illness from what we ate or drank.

Presumably it was reheated when the veg was added. What’s the problem?

I absolutely wouldn't eat that and I'd be very worried if it was fed to my baby. Keeping cooked meat in a fridge overnight is just basic food hygiene.

Put it this way, if a restaurant did it, they'd be shut down because of the risk.

I know you've said that a couple of times but I can't find any source that supports your claim. Do you have one?

Sure. How about this one? https://www.historyandpolicy.org/policy-papers/papers/food-poisoning-an-on-going-saga

Basically, although there have always been poisonous food stuffs, the food poisoning that we now take care to avoid is due to bacteria that have spread in the last 150 years or less. In the times when people ate meat that had been slaughtered on a local farm, and sold on directly, there were far fewer contaminants or spread of bacteria.

Would you be happy for a restaurant to act in that way?

But by day five you wouldn't eat the meat... So where do you think these germs come from?

My in laws do this all the time. I think it’s completely grim but as far as I know, no one has gotten sick from it.

There is no day five. Cooked day 1, reheated and eaten day 2.

I can say from experience that this isn't true. A famous food poisoning event at new year's eve decades ago. There was an egg-based terrine, there were oysters. We think it was the terrine as I didn't eat the oysters. We all got very (very) sick about 36-48 hours after the dinner.