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Who's paying for all this eco work?

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BeLoftyTurtle · 14/09/2024 19:09

I live in Leicester and heaps of houses are having eco work done, expensive wall insulation and solar panels etc.

You need to be on benefits to receive funding.

I know one local one got solar panels after age extended her house upwards by one level. Massive in investment! She said shes in receipt of UC so can get it.

I don't understand where tens of thousands of pounds to reduce carbon from private homes is coming from and how all the houses which are £350k+ in value are eligible for benefits?

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reesewithoutaspoon · 14/09/2024 22:57

There is some sort of scheme for cavity wall insulation. My mum was recently approached by a firm going door to door. I assume the councils are offering these firms money to do this work under some sort of outsourcing contract.
Couple of house on our estate have had it 'done'. Except our houses were builtin the 80's and have insulation in the cavities already.
These firms are making money on squirting a bit of foam into a cavity that doesn't need it, making a mess in the local area and raking it in on government grants we pay for. just so the council can say they have complied with their green targets probably.

BeLoftyTurtle · 14/09/2024 23:00

reesewithoutaspoon · 14/09/2024 22:57

There is some sort of scheme for cavity wall insulation. My mum was recently approached by a firm going door to door. I assume the councils are offering these firms money to do this work under some sort of outsourcing contract.
Couple of house on our estate have had it 'done'. Except our houses were builtin the 80's and have insulation in the cavities already.
These firms are making money on squirting a bit of foam into a cavity that doesn't need it, making a mess in the local area and raking it in on government grants we pay for. just so the council can say they have complied with their green targets probably.

There are only a couple of schemes.

Either GBIS which is via your energy supplier

ECO4 - benefits or certain chronic health issues

Local authority funding

I don't think there are any more.

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Firenzeflower · 14/09/2024 23:02

Eco work!
WOMEN IN STEM

Probably boffins and do gooders

mewkins · 14/09/2024 23:03

BeLoftyTurtle · 14/09/2024 22:50

Healthy pension.... Let's face it pensions today aren't like before

What I mean is there are people who earn just over the (very low) threshold for pension credits who won't be eligible for a lot of the warm home schemes, nor the winter fuel payment. Pension credits unlock many other benefits.

Againname · 14/09/2024 23:10

BeLoftyTurtle · 14/09/2024 22:50

Healthy pension.... Let's face it pensions today aren't like before

The UK has one of the lowest pensions in the developed world (also a higher state pension age than a fair few other countries).

You're right though that things aren't like they were. Pensioner poverty is increasing.

From the Centre for Ageing Better:

Relative pensioner poverty is at one of its highest rates (almost 18%) this century and is more than four percentage points higher than a decade ago. It means that 2.1 million pensioners in the UK have an income that is less than 60% of the national average.

And as I said previously:

Although it is undeniable that there are wealthy older people, wealth inequality within older age groups is vastly greater than between older and younger age groups.

@mewkins is right too, about the pensioners who aren't much above the low threshold for pension credit.

Mooneywoo · 15/09/2024 06:21

BeLoftyTurtle · 14/09/2024 22:51

I think it is.

Who else will spend £15-20k doing this work?.

Quite a number of people.

You are incredibly poorly informed yet insist on making stupid claims as though they are facts.

The schemes for people on benefits aren’t free, they still have to save to pay towards it. Proportionally the cost is probably still higher for them relative to their income.

Makingchocolatecake · 15/09/2024 07:34

There is probably a set gov budget for environmental improvements because the government need to look like they are doing something about it. Probably Department of levelling up, housing and communities (or whatever it's called now).

Farting · 15/09/2024 09:34

Everyone pays for it, there is a levy on everyone utility bills. Thats spend on people that are on benefits which are required to qualify under Eco 4.

AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii · 15/09/2024 09:41

@BeLoftyTurtle well I would hope my
neighbour would prefer I didn’t have my gas boiler as without my car I wouldn’t be able to do my job in rural community nursing therefore affecting vulnerable elderly patients who cannot get to their surgery 🤷‍♀️

WickerMam · 15/09/2024 09:49

BeLoftyTurtle · 14/09/2024 22:51

I think it is.

Who else will spend £15-20k doing this work?.

I paid for my own solar panels, and know lots of people who did the same. Definitely worth it to me - my normal electricity is basically free now for most of the year, and it covers most of the cost of my EV charging (saving £200 per month in petrol).

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