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Decided people are becoming even more mean

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Lalahaha · 14/09/2024 10:19

I don't use public transport that much but there's not a time I don't witness rude obnoxious behaviour.
Yesterday I was out for 2 hours and it was the worst yet.
In those couple of hours I witnessed...
On the bus to the shop there was a lady with a reborn doll in a full size car seat pushchair sat in the extra room spot. Refusing to move for anyone.
Get to the pharmacy to pick up a prescription there's a large queue. A woman walks straight to the side of the queue to attract the attention of the assistant. She lies that she had been in the queue and is served straight away. Which takes ages as she had lots to collect.
On the bus home we hadn't even taken off yet and a little boy around 4/5 sat on the disabled seat starts screaming . An elderly couple nearby starts huffing that he shouldn't be sat there anyway etc. The poor flustered mom tells them he's disabled and can't walk.
It was just horrible the whole trip.
I'm not going to say I stood up for anyone because I didn't. The confrontation I wouldn't be able to handle.
Am I right? Are the general public getting worse? I know we see bad behaviour all over social media but in real life it hits different.

OP posts:
Booksandwine80 · 15/09/2024 19:11

Absolutely true. On a packed to the rafters train yesterday, a woman shoved my 7 year old out of the way to get to an empty seat. I told her she was rude, she sarcastically said sorry (didn’t mean it even a little bit) so I told her she was a horrible cow 😆

LivingDeadGirlUK · 15/09/2024 19:18

I've never been able to drive and the only difference I see is people being distracted by phones a lot more. There has always been oddballs and entitled people.

PaperSheet · 15/09/2024 19:18

OhMaria2 · 15/09/2024 18:38

I think everyone's lost the plot since the lockdowns. With driving too.

I agree driving standards have absolutely plummeted in recent years.

No one seems to notice or care that there's other drivers on the road and they think they're the only ones who want to get where they're going as quickly as possible and fuck everyone else.

For example, on motorways approaching turn offs I'll be in the left lane a good mile or two before my turn off. Often I'll be following behind a lorry as there's lots of them about. Occasionally there won't be anyone behind me for ages. Then I'll see in my mirror a car zooming up the middle (or right hand) lane, they'll realise they don't have time to get round the lorry before the turn off, but instead of slowing down to pull in behind me where there's a HUGE gap, they'll just indicate and immediately (sometimes without indicating at all) try to squeeze in the safe gap I'm leaving between me and the lorry. They'll then often slam their brakes on to avoid hitting the lorry as they go quickly from 80 to 60. It's even worse when there's a bit of a queue for a turn off. So many cars just won't wait in it. I've seen lane 2 stretched back for ages with loads of cars all trying to get into lane one and the slip road. No one seems happy to wait at all. I don't want to be sitting there for hours either funnily enough. And yet God forbid after I've already had 5 cars push in front of me I try and not let another one in, I get people yelling and hand gesturing etc. You even see now so many people pulling into the cross hatch area between slip roads and motorways in order to beat the queues for turn offs.

Allfur · 15/09/2024 19:24

As someone who uses public transport alot (unlike you), i have very little to complain about, you just had a bad day

Onwardsandsidewaysyetagain · 15/09/2024 19:26

I find people mostly ok with the odd dickhead. I think headphones don't help as you then can't pick up social cues as you are in your own world. I find people quite courteous in the main, they are in my local shop, people don't barge in, they are mostly polite, the odd one isn't though and they stick out.

I also think we have all started assuming the worst of others and that then feeds the whole thing, if someone barged past my child, I'd probably think perhaps they didn't see them rather than they hate children, calling them a 'cow' then escalates that. If you say 'sorry' even if you are not in the wrong, then people often then apologise or consider their own behaviour. Most people are very righteous in the way they interact somehow and that seems to make things worse, not better.

I have encountered a few rude people, but I would say the minority are like that, the majority seem to be keen to chat or smile or say thanks in the car, it's a minority that don't say thanks for a door being held open or don't thank you if you wait for them to pass in the car and then I do mutter.

Allfur · 15/09/2024 19:27

Cattery · 14/09/2024 14:23

Yes. This country has gone to shit

Bollox has it, how about noticing some of the good stuff instead of focusing on the bad all the time

Allfur · 15/09/2024 19:29

Onwardsandsidewaysyetagain · 15/09/2024 19:26

I find people mostly ok with the odd dickhead. I think headphones don't help as you then can't pick up social cues as you are in your own world. I find people quite courteous in the main, they are in my local shop, people don't barge in, they are mostly polite, the odd one isn't though and they stick out.

I also think we have all started assuming the worst of others and that then feeds the whole thing, if someone barged past my child, I'd probably think perhaps they didn't see them rather than they hate children, calling them a 'cow' then escalates that. If you say 'sorry' even if you are not in the wrong, then people often then apologise or consider their own behaviour. Most people are very righteous in the way they interact somehow and that seems to make things worse, not better.

I have encountered a few rude people, but I would say the minority are like that, the majority seem to be keen to chat or smile or say thanks in the car, it's a minority that don't say thanks for a door being held open or don't thank you if you wait for them to pass in the car and then I do mutter.

Quite, most people are fine, one unpleasant interaction does not mean the down fall of civilisation

LilasPrettyCafe · 15/09/2024 19:40

I think it’s a minority group of people who are rude, entitled and irresponsible but it’s a large minority and it’s growing.

I work at an animal sanctuary in a very large public park and there’s been a definite increase in the number of irresponsible dog owners who refuse to put their dogs on a lead near the animal sanctuary. They’re so hostile, dismissive and uncooperative when you try to politely explain why it’s important. I bet their friends and family think they’re nice/good people, but it’s the things like that which show you a person’s true character.

Cattery · 15/09/2024 22:37

Allfur · 15/09/2024 19:27

Bollox has it, how about noticing some of the good stuff instead of focusing on the bad all the time

Name anything that has improved

Calliopespa · 19/09/2024 21:17

thereiscustardinthejamtart · 14/09/2024 11:49

I think probably there is a bit of confirmation bias. You see what you are looking for.

I also suspect:

  • the lady with the doll, probably some kind of special needs at play?
  • the lady on the queue, quite probably had previously queued and been told to pop back?
  • the couple “huffing” at the child - really how bad we’re they? Is it possible you are projecting a bit?

Yes, there are inconsiderate people out there, and quite possibly those three were genuinely just as bad as you say. But I also guarantee that there were at least as many acts of kindness and generosity, but you didn’t spot them because you weren’t in the mood to see them.

Yes I did the same at the pharmacy the other day. Waited 20 mins while a lady argued the pharmacist had called to say her item was there and they were telling her it was not. Was then told mine would take 30 mins and as I had school pick up to get to, I had to do my other errand and come back. Got lots of dirty looks but they had said this would be fine.

Calliopespa · 19/09/2024 21:20

Booksandwine80 · 15/09/2024 19:11

Absolutely true. On a packed to the rafters train yesterday, a woman shoved my 7 year old out of the way to get to an empty seat. I told her she was rude, she sarcastically said sorry (didn’t mean it even a little bit) so I told her she was a horrible cow 😆

Yeah but this is kind of the problem. It’s people hitting back rudely that’s adding to it.

Booksandwine80 · 19/09/2024 21:41

Calliopespa · 19/09/2024 21:20

Yeah but this is kind of the problem. It’s people hitting back rudely that’s adding to it.

She pushed my 7 year old child, I was over giving a shiny shit by that point.

stayathomer · 19/09/2024 21:48

I sometimes think that and I would think after a day like that you probably think human kind are evil and I wouldn’t blame you but then I see act after act of kindness and good naturedness. Someone paying for something in the shop for someone because a person doesn’t have the money, people letting other cars out, the daily weather chit chat that cheers people up.

PGreen30 · 27/09/2024 20:55

Lalahaha · 14/09/2024 10:19

I don't use public transport that much but there's not a time I don't witness rude obnoxious behaviour.
Yesterday I was out for 2 hours and it was the worst yet.
In those couple of hours I witnessed...
On the bus to the shop there was a lady with a reborn doll in a full size car seat pushchair sat in the extra room spot. Refusing to move for anyone.
Get to the pharmacy to pick up a prescription there's a large queue. A woman walks straight to the side of the queue to attract the attention of the assistant. She lies that she had been in the queue and is served straight away. Which takes ages as she had lots to collect.
On the bus home we hadn't even taken off yet and a little boy around 4/5 sat on the disabled seat starts screaming . An elderly couple nearby starts huffing that he shouldn't be sat there anyway etc. The poor flustered mom tells them he's disabled and can't walk.
It was just horrible the whole trip.
I'm not going to say I stood up for anyone because I didn't. The confrontation I wouldn't be able to handle.
Am I right? Are the general public getting worse? I know we see bad behaviour all over social media but in real life it hits different.

🤣 cracking up, you're so right! I myself go on public transport and have seen some shocking behaviours myself, you're right in saying it is worse than before! Nobody has respect for anyone these days, I always have a good laugh when I've been out and seen so much drama, it's just everywhere you go now!

Spectre8 · 27/09/2024 21:03

If only we could be a bit more like Japan where anyone will hold youth account. Abit like when I was born in the 90s you had alot more social unacceptable of certain behaviours

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