Decided people are becoming even more mean

[Lalahaha]

I don't use public transport that much but there's not a time I don't witness rude obnoxious behaviour.
Yesterday I was out for 2 hours and it was the worst yet.
In those couple of hours I witnessed...
On the bus to the shop there was a lady with a reborn doll in a full size car seat pushchair sat in the extra room spot. Refusing to move for anyone.
Get to the pharmacy to pick up a prescription there's a large queue. A woman walks straight to the side of the queue to attract the attention of the assistant. She lies that she had been in the queue and is served straight away. Which takes ages as she had lots to collect.
On the bus home we hadn't even taken off yet and a little boy around 4/5 sat on the disabled seat starts screaming . An elderly couple nearby starts huffing that he shouldn't be sat there anyway etc. The poor flustered mom tells them he's disabled and can't walk.
It was just horrible the whole trip.
I'm not going to say I stood up for anyone because I didn't. The confrontation I wouldn't be able to handle.
Am I right? Are the general public getting worse? I know we see bad behaviour all over social media but in real life it hits different.

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I do that too my favourite is ‘A thank you would have been nice’ in a cheery tone because its calling their rudeness out and they don’t have a come back due to the cheery tone it seems to baffle people!

I think you are right, I think that as a society we are incredibly entitled and there’s been a massive move towards people believing that rules don’t apply to them, that they are somehow special or have circumstances that make them exempt. Someone playing music on their phone? Oh they’ve probably got anxiety. Queue jumping? Maybe they’ve got a poorly dog at home.

We all also live on top of each other, and are fighting for access to the same crumbling services.

Too many people
Poor public transport
Poor customer service

Everything seems so much trouble/hassle, even for the simplest of things.

Just going out and doing things that were normal 20-30 years ago causes me the rage these days.

Far easier just to stay in and order everything online!

We all also live on top of each other, and are fighting for access to the same crumbling services.

This with bells on! Absolutely. I’d neglected to even take the latter into consideration. That’s really a huge part of the problem. And there’s such a disparity between those who can pay their way towards ‘better, faster, stronger’ services and then… well, the rest of us. And it really creates an undercurrent of resentment, not so much towards the people who can fund fast tracked services but towards a government that perpetuates social crises. Our own services are consistently underfunded and undermined. It devalues us as a society and we therefore feel devalued by our own government and the very system that should function for our benefit but doesn’t. But instead it’s all #gratitude for sub par services.

Ah we’ve all moved on from that! I’m here for my menopausal rant! Join us! 😆

This is why I just give space to everyone, prefer waiting on queues, stating firmly my needs in my jobs and tough titties if someone does not want to give me what I want. I will find another place

In my last job one of my colleagues had a client who brought a reborn doll to all her appointments.

Some people behave badly in public. Some people are also very intolerant of sharing their lives and space with others.

The majority of posts on here are kind of constructed anyway for a bit of a chat, not always advice

Yes. This country has gone to shit

@TheYearOfSmallThings Actually I did see someone with a reborn doll in a pram the other week at a bus stop (wonder if it was the same woman!). Some foreign tour party students were laughing and pointing at it and the lady owner was shrieking. Poor woman.

Generally I do agree people are far more self-centred and with phones are oblivious to others, even if they don’t mean to be actively rude. I think the mental health thing has gone too far when everyone being anti-social has an excuse. Dh was commuting to work on the train when a woman said she needed all four seats because of her “anxiety”. Dh went to a less favourable seat, but said Good luck with that at the next stop. Sure enough a million people piled on and her protestations were ignored.

There is a famous fb post circulating, with a nice tall woman dressed in black, walking away. How she always kept walking away from nasty people

I think many more people these days have serious mental health issues / learning disabilities for which they receive no support.

I think it’s too crowded and public services are underfunded and overrun and everyone is overwhelmed and tetchy.

I think we self soothe with phones because it’s not quiet enough anywhere anymore to read a book.

I think even habitually well-mannered people have learned the hard way that being polite and considerate and moderate just gets them deprioritised and put to the back of the queue in most situations, and they’ll need sharper elbows and a more histrionic manner if they hope ever to see a GP, etc.

I have absolutely no idea why people play things out loud on their phones though.

I was in an M & S food store this morning. I walked towards the self checkout. There was a mother and daughter coming the other way and we got there at the same time. I stood back to let them through. Not a single word of thanks or acknowledgement. Didn’t even look at me.

Yes people are more selfish,oblivious to others and entitled than ever.

Sounds like you're describing a city or some urban setting. I don't recognise any thing that you've mentioned. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, I'm sure it does, but you have described it in a way that suggests people have no agency over where they live, who they interact with, how they occupy their time, which is really depressing.

• I deliberately gave up Facebook a decade ago and have never subscribed to any of the new SM platforms, insta TikTok they sound completely hideous and anxiety- inducing. I can't stand lack of privacy and oversharing.
• I don't go to crowded places very often, I value quiet and headspace. When I do go out, I need a week to recover.
• I do have simple pursuits like meeting a friend for a coffee. I don't need 50, 100, 598 Friends, single numbers is fine.

what you describe is people who aren't taking control of their existence, they have allowed themselves to become flotsam and jetsam of life. Not everyone is like that, by any stretch of the imagination. But possibly you're not talking about people/families who live in smaller towns and villages, rural living is nowhere near as depressing as that. If anything, isolation is more relevant than overcrowding.

Sorry to hear this, curious where that was, and if where you are now (outside UK?) is better?

I e made several long train journeys up and down the country recently and everyone has been pleasant and considerate.

Was at Butlins, Bognor tbh it was just an odd few people and on the camp.
Outside of the camp people were noticeably friendly, polite and seemed to live at a slower pace.
I am still in the UK Essex, people in home town and surrounding areas are very self absorbed its very noticeable when you visit other towns and cities!

Absolutely agree, you just need to look at the way people drive now to see how selfish and self-obsessed we have become.

I think everyone's lost the plot since the lockdowns. With driving too.

We were at a high profile womens' sporting event yesterday. My two 10 year olds were excited and most of the other kids around were having a great day of it. (International stadium with lots of 'hands on' stuff for kids and adults to do)

Once in the ground the adults behind used some truly awful language and even joked about the words they were using. I tried asking them just not to use the C word in every sentence and got laughed at. Then, on the way out, we were queuing in a food queue and a man in his 70s or so actually manhandled one of my kids aside. Not in a friendly way but actually elbowed him. Both DP and I were absolutely shocked.

We've been attending events at the stadium for decades and never seen such entitled behaviour. Yet all the kids we saw were having a great time enjoying the event. I hope at least some of the younger generation don't grow up to be such arses.

When someone is rude to me (and they were at fault), I say "the appropriate response would have been an apology".

Even if they don't say sorry, it makes me feel better!

I can't believe what people are actually willing to share and say to people. There is a huge lack of self awareness I think. I'm only in my 30s so I can't really remember when it wasn't like this.

I've got a theory that it's after netflix went rubbish. Society realised they really didn't have anything in common with each other after all, so started treating each other like npcs that are in their way.
I'm only half joking