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Juice in school

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Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 08:42

My DD’s teacher is being very combative about her taking juice to school (primary) in a clear drinking bottle. He says it’s against school healthy eating standards, but if she brings it in a non clear bottle it’s fine! She brings a very healthy lunch and has perfect teeth. She is also very sporty . She point blank refuses to drink water. Yet others in her class bring crisps and chocolate and nothing is said .
AIBU to stick with the (new) clear bottle?
i dislike petty rules that have no bearing on her education ! Especially when the rules are not enforced for others !

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Pipsquiggle · 13/09/2024 12:03

@Fubar01 are you a black or white kind of person? Does everything fall into right or wrong? It comes across that way.

Do you really want this to be your hill to die on?

I personally believe the teacher is trying to accommodate your DC's drinking habits and ensure they stay hydrated, without actively promoting it to the rest of the class.

Squash is not allowed at my DC's school - they don't, however, check all the DC's water bottles so it isn't rigidly enforced. Parents who have similar issues to you use flavoured water.

If you want to make an issue of this teacher being 'deceptive' then they will have to bring in more draconian rules for the entire cohort.

When do you intend to teach your DC nuance and subtlety and how (and when) to pick your battles?

Buy the opaque bottle or get DC to drink water.

Catza · 13/09/2024 12:05

Bomdigi · 13/09/2024 11:08

You’re not supposed to have fruit juice for every drink though. The same way you can’t have fruit for every meal. Water is the basic sustenance for life. It cleans your kidneys, hydrates your skin etc.

You are presenting me with a strawman argument. Nowhere did I say that juice should be the only liquid. I am responding to PP's assertive statement that juice has no health benefits which is ridiculous on a common sense level even without having to pull empirical evidence to the contrary.

justkeepswimmng · 13/09/2024 12:07

LameBorzoi · 13/09/2024 08:57

A clear bottle is unfair on the other kids. It's like letting her eat haribo at her desk, and not letting any of the others have any

OMG this thread is outrageous.

Why do parents assume their children are entitled to what others are having, if you have decided your child is to have water that's absolutely fine, JUST like its fine for another child to have juice.

If your child is upset by that then tell them to get a grip, life is going to be hard enough without everyone pandering to their every desire and self entitlement.

Melodysmum12 · 13/09/2024 12:09

Get a grip!
The teacher is allowing you to let your daughter bring juice as she won’t drink water. However he is saying hide it as others will find this unfair. What is the problem! They have rules and they’re being lenient with them
for you. Change the bottle and stop causing a drama for your child

Pipsquiggle · 13/09/2024 12:09

Catza · 13/09/2024 12:05

You are presenting me with a strawman argument. Nowhere did I say that juice should be the only liquid. I am responding to PP's assertive statement that juice has no health benefits which is ridiculous on a common sense level even without having to pull empirical evidence to the contrary.

@Catza It's squash not juice

Melodysmum12 · 13/09/2024 12:10

justkeepswimmng · 13/09/2024 12:07

OMG this thread is outrageous.

Why do parents assume their children are entitled to what others are having, if you have decided your child is to have water that's absolutely fine, JUST like its fine for another child to have juice.

If your child is upset by that then tell them to get a grip, life is going to be hard enough without everyone pandering to their every desire and self entitlement.

I don’t agree!
Other kids may prefer juice too and wonder why one is allowed it so to prevent arguments she just needs a bottle that isn’t clear!

They’re kids… they are still learning!!

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 13/09/2024 12:13

justkeepswimmng · 13/09/2024 12:07

OMG this thread is outrageous.

Why do parents assume their children are entitled to what others are having, if you have decided your child is to have water that's absolutely fine, JUST like its fine for another child to have juice.

If your child is upset by that then tell them to get a grip, life is going to be hard enough without everyone pandering to their every desire and self entitlement.

Or, just, follow the rules the school sets out?

iwfja · 13/09/2024 12:13

I really don't understand your problem here.
Just put it in an opaque bottle and that's the end of it.
You are lucky they aren't enforcing the water only rule and letting her have the juice.
Sipping on juice all day is not good for teeth. Just because your child's teeth are perfect now doesn't mean that they will stay like that.

justkeepswimmng · 13/09/2024 12:14

Melodysmum12 · 13/09/2024 12:10

I don’t agree!
Other kids may prefer juice too and wonder why one is allowed it so to prevent arguments she just needs a bottle that isn’t clear!

They’re kids… they are still learning!!

Because parents have made choices based on their opinions and what they feel is best for their own children.
I dont allow my kids to have fizzy juice, my best friends kids do, my kids dont have phones yet, their friends do, my kids train 21 hours a week in their sport, others would think thats outrageous.

Melodysmum12 · 13/09/2024 12:15

justkeepswimmng · 13/09/2024 12:14

Because parents have made choices based on their opinions and what they feel is best for their own children.
I dont allow my kids to have fizzy juice, my best friends kids do, my kids dont have phones yet, their friends do, my kids train 21 hours a week in their sport, others would think thats outrageous.

I get this but in school, this teacher is making it a bit easier for the child and other kids!!

justkeepswimmng · 13/09/2024 12:15

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 13/09/2024 12:13

Or, just, follow the rules the school sets out?

Yes, lets just all follow blindly the rules set out and never ever question why they are put in place.

justkeepswimmng · 13/09/2024 12:17

Melodysmum12 · 13/09/2024 12:15

I get this but in school, this teacher is making it a bit easier for the child and other kids!!

Yes i think thats fair, and tbh I personally would just get a new bottle that isnt clear and be done with it.

starfishmummy · 13/09/2024 12:17

fashionqueen0123 · 13/09/2024 09:06

Why don’t you enforce it for your child then? Instead of leaving it to the teacher, give your child a clear bottle of water. They’ll drink it eventually.

Exactly this. I was a water hater, hated having to queue at break or lumchtime for the one drinking fountain (well one for girls and one for boys as they were in the toilet blocks). But if I was thirsty I'd do it!

Babyworriesreal · 13/09/2024 12:17

He's offering a compromise - probably because he has assessed you to be a PITA. Your daughter can have unhealthy juice, to shut you up, but in a way least likely to influence the other children, who have been brought up to drink healthy water and follow school rules. Her teeth may not stay perfect, if she continues to have juice available, throughout the day, as time goes on.

Fluufer · 13/09/2024 12:18

justkeepswimmng · 13/09/2024 12:15

Yes, lets just all follow blindly the rules set out and never ever question why they are put in place.

But this kid isn't even being made to follow the rules. It has been questioned, the reasons explained and an extremely reasonable compromise offered.

theteddybear · 13/09/2024 12:19

I agree with you. I get my youngest flavoured water as she isn't a fan of water. My eldest is fine with water but she tells me that although your "allowed" juice at lunch your not allowed your water bottle in class unless it only has water. It is a ridiculous rule. I sometimes give eldest juice if she wants as her bottle isn't clear so they can't see what's in it.

justkeepswimmng · 13/09/2024 12:20

Fluufer · 13/09/2024 12:18

But this kid isn't even being made to follow the rules. It has been questioned, the reasons explained and an extremely reasonable compromise offered.

Yeah to be fair i agree with this. I do think the teacher has been very fair but the replies have been awful.

Catza · 13/09/2024 12:20

Pipsquiggle · 13/09/2024 12:09

@Catza It's squash not juice

Again, I was responding to the comment about juice. The PPs did not say anything about squash not having health benefits. She said JUICE does not have any health benefits. The lack of reading comprehension on MN is quite worrying.

Nanny0gg · 13/09/2024 12:21

Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 08:42

My DD’s teacher is being very combative about her taking juice to school (primary) in a clear drinking bottle. He says it’s against school healthy eating standards, but if she brings it in a non clear bottle it’s fine! She brings a very healthy lunch and has perfect teeth. She is also very sporty . She point blank refuses to drink water. Yet others in her class bring crisps and chocolate and nothing is said .
AIBU to stick with the (new) clear bottle?
i dislike petty rules that have no bearing on her education ! Especially when the rules are not enforced for others !

You are not wrong but I'd just use another bottle to stop her getting grief about her drink

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 13/09/2024 12:23

justkeepswimmng · 13/09/2024 12:15

Yes, lets just all follow blindly the rules set out and never ever question why they are put in place.

Do we really need to question why the school states that kids drinks bottles should contain water? Is that not just general common sense and healthy habits?

If they were saying that all the kids had to run five miles in sumo suits before the morning assembly, yeah question it. But this? Let's try applying some common sense maybe?

Thindog · 13/09/2024 12:24

The teachers probably really couldn’t give a monkeys’ about whether or not you give your darling water or juice.
However they do give a big shit about getting through Ofsted inspections, and “Healthy Schools,” is one of the things they will be judged on. Which means no juice.
So that’s why he would say ok but hide it in an opaque bottle.
It really isn’t one of those things to get into a battle with.Save that for serious issues. Please.

Nsky62 · 13/09/2024 12:25

Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 08:50

It’s not the juice that he has an issue with seemingly, but the fact that it’s in a clear bottle. So he is basically teaching children to hide things .

Juice is often called squash fruit flavoured, pure juice is quite sweet

Mskrabapple · 13/09/2024 12:25

Fubar01 · 13/09/2024 09:37

That isn’t the rule though.

Geez your replies to this thread confuse me - it is truly unclear what you want as an outcome.

The rule is only water in drink bottles (for the myriad reasons listed by other posters). Your child, in UK climate and with water available, will not die of dehydration.

You are the one that want her to drink juice at school, you are the one that is breaking the school rule, you are also the one going on about hypocrisy and teachers instilling sneakiness and lying in children when this is the ultimate hypocrisy as it is you that is teaching your child that the rules don’t apply to them, you that is choosing to send juice and you that has no respect for the school policies.

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