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AIBU to hope Bento boxes for packed school lunches never take off here?

168 replies

LightDrizzle · 13/09/2024 00:02

Luckily I’m an old bat and it wouldn’t directly affect me but while it’s a Japanese thing that is sort of cute at a distance, the thought of parents, and let’s face it, mostly women, thinking they have to put mental and physical effort into carving Squishmallows out of radishes and creating beautiful and imaginative Bento boxes every day for the delight of their children and the envy of their friends just makes me feel depressed.

It was bad enough in the days of cutting sandwiches and bunging a satsuma, a Mini Babybel and a Penguin in. I’m still surprised at how long it takes to make rounds of decent sandwiches. I loathed doing packed lunches on top of everything else you’ve got to do with young children and full time work. Obviously there is nothing wrong with the Bento box as a receptacle, it’s the Insta-culture expectation as to the contents that make me feel sympathetic dread. Sometimes it seems that as fast as we develop labour saving gadgets and devices; social media and influencers devise tortuous new ways of parting women from any prospect of a moment to theirselves.

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Overcover · 13/09/2024 13:11

My DCs had lunch boxes with compartments in nearly 20 years ago. It kept the fruit from getting squished on the sandwiches and cake crumbs getting on everything else. I had no idea I was supposed to be carving radishes to go in them.

TonTonMacoute · 13/09/2024 13:12

DreamTheMoors · 13/09/2024 01:30

My mother, God bless her, and God rest her soul, made my lunch every single school day for six looong years because the school lunches at my school were abhorrent.
She was a teacher and even she couldn’t choke them down.
I’m thinking they’ve improved over the years.
Hope so.

School dinners from the 60s were something else and we love to complain about it, but thinking back the only things that were really horrible were the lumpy mashed potatoes, the horrible furry tinned peas and the over cooked liver.

DS's rural primary school provided fantastic lunches, freshly cooked from local produce.

LadyKenya · 13/09/2024 13:13

KrisAkabusi · 13/09/2024 00:30

My daughter uses a bento box. I have never carved a vegetable for her and I don't know what a squishmallow is. Things are only as difficult as you make them.

This.

WhataPithy · 13/09/2024 13:23

I have to say Yumboxes have been brilliant. We have had two in a constant rotation nearly ten years now and they are still going strong and completely leak proof too. I like to use one for myself sometimes too.

Acornsplop · 13/09/2024 13:25

AGoingConcern · 13/09/2024 09:26

Our younger ones have yumbox ones currently, but we've also liked Bentgo. Oldest chipped in some of her pocket money to upgrade to a rather fashionable monbento set last year when we were buying new boxes.

Oooo I like the yumboxes! I don't like the price though 😉

Acornsplop · 13/09/2024 13:30

SusannaSpider · 13/09/2024 11:19

20yrs experience and I always buy Sistema now. They wash well, don't aquire a food taste, compartments are a nice size and they survive being kicked about. The lidded pots fit well and don't leak. They aren't made in China. The only slightly annoying thing is some of the bento style ones could do with clips on both sides and not one clip and a hinge.

Yes they're good!. But they're far too big for small children

SusannaSpider · 13/09/2024 14:07

Acornsplop · 13/09/2024 13:30

Yes they're good!. But they're far too big for small children

They come in different sizes, honestly I'm not on commission or anything😅

starfishmummy · 13/09/2024 14:09

SusannaSpider · 13/09/2024 00:12

I know you said the issue wasn't the bento box as a receptacle, but I love the Sistema ones. I'm not entertaining any of that squashing an egg into the shape of Hello Kitty shite, but having different apartments to fill just seems to stop me scrabbling around - a satsuma fits here, cherry tom's in this bit etc.
I probably have ADHD and it shows on threads like this 😳

I've been using them for ds's packed lunches for ages. He's neurdivergent and physically disabled and they are ideal. Nothing is in fancy shapes - just torn or cut into bite sized pieces to make it easy for him to manage.

DiscoBeat · 13/09/2024 14:16

We use bentoboxes sometimes. The most I ever did was Teddy or rocket shaped sandwiches (we had cutters) but only when the were little. But they're great for putting eg apricots in one it, strawberries on another, cubed cheese, sandwiches etc. I like the reduced plastic and foil.

LightDrizzle · 13/09/2024 15:05

GreenTeaLikesMe · 13/09/2024 00:51

My teen daughter does her own bento in a bento box every morning. It takes five seconds and consists of putting leftovers from last night in a box (assuming we had something like grilled fish or chicken). If the leftovers from last night are not the kind of thing that works as bento, such as a curry, she makes a peanut butter sandwich. And wraps some of last night’s salad in foil and shoves it in.

Fancy bento are not a thing for secondary school, they are as per the above, basically.

Elementary school kids usually have kyushoku (school lunches) which are really, really good! You might have to make bento on certain occasions, like a half day at the end of term, or for school trips obviously. However, when you do do bento, you usually just do simple stuff based on leftovers, as per the above. Actually, most of the public elementary schools round here specifically ban “Kyara-ben” (bento made into fancy shapes) for the occasions when you do make bento, because it would encourage kids to fuss about it and put pressure on parents, and also because there are concerns that all the extra touching and handling of food that goes on when it is cut and shaped is not very hygienic and raises the risk of contamination of food.

Kindergartens for 3-6yos (which traditionally have been aimed at non-working mothers) do have daily bento in most cases, but again, a lot of them ban the fancy shaped “Kyara-Ben.” I know a couple of mothers who send their kids to kindergartens that have daily bento and are really “into” making this kind of fancy stuff, but most are like me and just shove leftovers in a box (or better still, make your kids do it themselves) on the occasions when it does need to be made.

In any case, these days most mothers in Japan are working, so we usually use daycares (which serve school lunches) rather than kindergartens for our 3-6yos, or send them to the kind of kindergarten that is adapted for working parents and serves school lunches instead. So again, very few occasions when you need to make bento.

That sounds sane. I’m glad some schools are banning the Kyara-Ben. I’ve definitely got the impression competitive Bento was a more of a thing from the ever reliable twin prongs of journalism and SM 😂 I’m happy to learn I was mistaken!

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LightDrizzle · 13/09/2024 16:06

It’s been interesting to read all the messages. As other posters have kindly pointed out, it is performative Bento boxes I hope don’t catch on, not compartmentalised receptacles. Reading people reference their Sistemas I realise I used one for donkeys years but it wasn’t marketed as a Bento box back then. I used it to take leftovers to the office. By then my DD was past the packed lunch stage and on school dinners, praise be.

What people choose to do to show their love for their family is of course up to them, but what I’d hate to see is the rise of people posting children’s curated Bento boxes on SM. Also, if cutesy Bento reach a critical mass in a school, children will nag for them, they are so peer driven at that age and primary is peak craze time, - in my time it was stickers, fancy rubbers, playing jacks (!) and fancy things to stick on the end of your pencil. All those things were cheap, affordable (landfill) tat though and not time sponges for our parents.

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sashh · 14/09/2024 03:22

Meadowfinch · 13/09/2024 12:57

Quite apart from all the effort, I don't want my child associating meals with nasty little plastic boxes that look like something off a production line.

We have china plates that don't leach chemicals, knives & forks, and hot food that can be served depending on the size and appetite of the child.

They do not have to be plastic, they can be metal, wood, bamboo, wheat even

www.treehugger.com/plastic-free-lunch-boxes-bags-4858600

DreamTheMoors · 14/09/2024 03:25

Goldenbear · 13/09/2024 09:37

They haven't at my DD's secondary school, she is 13 and said they are unhealthy and unappetising, she has a Bento box and makes rice and couscous dishes and vegetables and a homemade (by her) snack like oatcake. However, she gets up early and wants to make it herself.

Good on her! I sort-of remember what I ate for lunch at that age and it wasn’t anything close to your daughter’s cuisine. And there were no bento boxes back in my 70s small town either.
I remember burritos made by the Mexican ladies in the cafeteria and (sad) hot lunches, which I never ate. They had a.number of different sandwiches and things like chicken nuggets weren’t invented yet. Oh - tostadas, too.
I loved - and still do - the Mexican food and it was relatively healthy and filling.
Had I been a good and capable cook like your girl I might’ve taken my lunch but, alas, that skill escaped me.
You must be really proud of her.
My mum hated cooking so she didn’t exactly inspire me.

CheesecakeBase · 14/09/2024 03:42

LightDrizzle · 13/09/2024 15:05

That sounds sane. I’m glad some schools are banning the Kyara-Ben. I’ve definitely got the impression competitive Bento was a more of a thing from the ever reliable twin prongs of journalism and SM 😂 I’m happy to learn I was mistaken!

I remember reading something (maybe on here) a few years ago written by a British ex pat in Japan and lunches were definitely competitive where she was. She was exhausted and getting up at stupid o’clock to make the elaborate lunch box food
before going to work. It sounded incredibly stressful and she kept doing it because she didn’t want her kids to stand out and be pitied if they didn’t have their food cut into
fancy shapes.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 14/09/2024 04:23

She probably sent her kids to one of the kindergartens that are mostly aimed at SAHMs. I know a couple like that. They want you to sew all the school thing like bags and placemats, volunteer regularly, and make bento daily. I only know a couple of women whose kids are at places like that, though, as most mums go back to work these days. I always advise mums to ask careful questions before choosing, because there is nothing worse than trying to work while using the type of kindergarten that assumes you are a housewife.

DreamTheMoors · 14/09/2024 20:01

TonTonMacoute · 13/09/2024 13:12

School dinners from the 60s were something else and we love to complain about it, but thinking back the only things that were really horrible were the lumpy mashed potatoes, the horrible furry tinned peas and the over cooked liver.

DS's rural primary school provided fantastic lunches, freshly cooked from local produce.

I’m in California.
They were allll inedible.
I don’t remember them serving liver, but I remember them serving unidentifiable food that may or may not have been liver.
I remember standing in line to get my little carton of milk and hearing the glop glop glop of whatever they were serving hit the trays from their serving spoons.
I truly do understand how difficult it must be to feed an entire school of children and the challenge that brings. I couldn’t do it.
One of my oldest friends is now the chief cook of a local high school - I should ask her if they use local produce, because that sounds delicious. We live in the Central Valley, the most fertile ground in America. We grow everything here. It would be a shame to let that go to waste.
PS - those peas were gross!

Packetofcrispsplease · 15/09/2024 09:54

My mum never made me a packed lunch , only for a day trip with school when a packed lunch was specified .
I had to have school dinners which were decent enough some days and revolting on other days .
She was a SAHM until I was about 10 🤷🏻‍♀️ .
My own girls have been to different schools with different facilities and I mostly made them a packed lunch .
i think the compartments in a bento 🍱 style box help because you don’t use cling film etc or pre packaged snacks so much .
It got very boring trying to think what to put in that would keep till lunchtime.
I pre paid for a school lunch once per week on my busiest morning though .

MrsPositivity1 · 15/09/2024 11:04

Im now in my 15th year of making packed lunches and absolutely hate it. It’s jointly my most hated job along with cleaning the bathrooms

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