School not allowing children to wear jumpers

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Dd15 has just gone into year 11 at school. They went back last week and the teachers were pulling children out the classroom to uniform check shoes, nails, blazers, lashes etc.
They were cutting the bows off of the girls school socks if they had them on.
But they also told the children that they weren’t allowed to wear their jumpers (plain black v neck which is stated in the school uniform policy) it doesn’t state that the jumpers can only be worn at certain times.

Their reasoning is that it isn’t cold enough yet and they will tell the children when they can start wearing them.

My daughter feels the cold so easily, She near enough always has a coat on but obviously in class they have to take it off but she said today the classrooms were really cold.

AIBU to call or email the school to ask why? It just seems like a bit of a power move with the whole ‘we will tell you when you can wear it’

Schools have absolutely lost the plot with this stuff.

I’m glad my DS isn’t at a school with a ridiculous policy like this.

His school is one of the highest performing schools in the city in terms of academic results. And astonishingly the students can take their blazers off or wear their jumpers as and when they feel the need.

Strange how some schools seem to think blazer wearing correlates with good results. A year spent in a country with excellent standards and no school uniforms showed me that this is utter nonsense.

Yanbu. The media are wringing their hands about why our teens have so many mental health problems but we have schools pulling this type of nonsense. No one has the right to say whether it's too hot or to cold for anyone, heaven help the employer that tries it. Children deserve to be allowed to keep warm / cool.

You need to get on the school's case about that. It's too much to ask her to defy her teacher in the moment - it's up to you to come down hard on your daughter's behalf.

Literally none of your examples include some complaining about the absence of a rule. A 15 year old is old enough not to lose their jumper.

So what if children lose jumpers? They will still be losing their jumpers when the school does decide to allow them.

That is not a valid reason to make them get cold. A child who is cold, uncomfortable and shivery will not be able to concentrate and learn. For a school to deny children the right to access education fully just because they find it inconvenient to deal with lost jumpers is a total abrogation of what they are there for.

Mine has Raynauds so feels cold very easily
and is wearing her jumper she certainly
doesn't need someone telling her when it is the correct time

And yet that person is absolutely correct. This school is breaking the law in a number of respects, including a little matter of criminal damage on the bows on socks.

It's astonishing that schools that claim to be so hot on discipline and enforcing the rules seem to be quite happy to break the law. It's hardly setting their pupils the best example, is it?

They are rife within my schools year 11! Long black socks with massive bows on the side!

Uniform policies are mostly ridiculous. Definitely contact them.

Very common here at the high school near me in Glasgow also. Short black skirts, long black socks with bows.

She needs thermals or a vest.

The school will be doing a crackdown.
Not a good idea to defy it now.

If she needs speak to a deputy head or similar and get exemption on "medical" groinds.

My school and my kid’s school only allow jumpers under blazers. So if you’re cold, blazer on first. If you’re still cold, you can add your jumper. No jumpers without blazers. (Most prefer the blazer anyway for the pockets.) Are you sure that’s not the policy being applied?

English schools are crazy. Honestly I'm amazed at the nonsense you all have to put up with.

Batshit uniforms, fines, siblings having to go to different schools, not being 'allowed' to walk home from school, starting school at 4, attendance awards.

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Wow. You could barely get the kids to wear the sleeveless vests let alone jumpers at our school! Who are the teachers to decide whether the child feels the cold or not? I'd be marching in to see the head (with reinforcement from other parents) over this.

Tell the school that you will bill them for the damage of YOUR property. YOU are the person that pays out to kit your child out for school, not the child.

No coats allowed in my children's secondary school. Another school I know has banned umbrellas (as well as no coats) so not sure what you're supposed to when it's raining or freezing. Been the policy for years and can't believe it hasn't been challenged

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I’m already steeling myself for the batshit battles I’m going to need to fight when my child enters the school system.

I’m going to spend half my spare time organising petitions from parents about school uniform rules so our kids don’t freeze/boil.

Blazers are compulsory at the school. They are all wearing their blazers she just wants to wear her jumper underneath it.

I posted on the parents Facebook page and the only parents who responded said that they aren’t allowed to wear them until October and have to stop in March. Lots of heart emotions and yes this is the rules etc.
But it doesn’t state that anywhere in the uniform policy or on their website.

The socks with the bows on were a big thing and very popular in my dds high school about 3 years ago until her school also banned them, we had to cut the bows off dds .

We spend the whole of primary school trying to get children to learn some common sense. Are you cold? Pop your jumper on. Do you need a coat today? Look outside and see what the weather is like.
Then they go to secondary and are absolutely squashed by this madness.
I get that secondary behaviour can be challenging but this kind of rubbish doesn’t help and teaches them nothing.

It's ridiculous that primary school aged children are allowed to decide themselves when to remove/wear their jumpers/cardigans but high school aged children can't?!

Is this a new rule for this year? What happened last year?