To give you the pensioners facts

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So many threads about pensioners being well off.
I've just had my forecast.
I turn 66 in November .
Those born after September 23rd 1958 will not get the winter fuel allowance no matter what credits you are on.
Esa etc etc.
My forecast us £221 per week.
Also pensioners still have to pay rent.
Council house tenants will still pay bedroom tax.
Pensioners won't get council tax reduction.
Unless you have paid into a private pension .. pensioners will be the poorest they have ever been.
And we waited an extra 6 years for bugger all.
Stammer is the theif that has stolen all our golden hours.

"The fact is that there is a £21 billion black hole in the finances.

We're not going to tell you how it is made up, or where it came from, but you can guarantee it was nothing to do with us.

Now we are going to make the most vunerable people in society pay for it."

I'm wondering who came up with this genius plan.

It was paid in late September/early October.

My Mother died in late September 2017 and her WFP was paid the day she died.

Ah, sorry about your mum. I know it was a while ago, but I know I still miss my mum at times even though she has been long gone.

That explains the cut off date, thanks.

Reeves and Starmer. That’s who. Now they’re coming after the single persons’ discount for council tax. Guess the cohort most likely to be affected ?

They don’t want to do so because they are looking forward to the cost of pension provision to be significantly lower when numerous oldies have frozen to death.

Jeremy Hunt & Richi Sunak.

They were warned by many inc the IFS that his stupid NI cuts would need to be paid for by Tax rises or Spending cuts, he said "oh no, the workers will work harder"

He knew the Pay Review bodies would be reporting very soon but set aside no money to pay for these.

Set aside no money for the Blood scandal, thats billions....

Of course Labour knew all of this, they might not have known the exact amounts but they had a fair idea.

Might interest you to know that Rachel Reeves has claimed £3700 in heating allowances in the past five years on her constituency home. That’s £740 a year - over three times what most pensioners got in WFP. She has also commented that she has been very concerned when opening her bills lately as the costs are spiralling. This is despite a £91,000 basic salary as an MP and being married to a very senior civil servant. If she’s struggling, how does she think the pensioners she’s just shafted feel ?

Reeves earns over 150k as a Govt minister, how many other jobs allow personal heating to be claimed as an expense?

Yes its not a good look is it?

Tory or Labour, they make sure they are all ok first.

Starmer’s dad was a tool maker. Seems to me Keir’s the biggest tool he’s made.

Maybe if they got their noses out of the trough there would be enough left to sort out the mess without hitting on the vulnerable yet again. 14 years of Tory cutbacks only to be told we’ll all have to take the pain yet again. Why are the likes of Boris and Truss taking £110,000 a year for life, just for being PM ? Boris already has more money than he can spend, and Truss was PM for 49 days. Where else could you walk away with this kind of pension for rubbishing the economy and plunging so many people into hardship ? £300 a day for sitting in the House of Lords, while people have to rely on foodbanks to make ends meet. You couldn’t make it up.

If you’re born after 23rd September 1958 you haven’t yet reached 66 so you’re not eligible for state pension.

Because they are worth it!!!

Seriously, the shabang that is Parliament, wouldn't pay for a weeks NHS budget.

Yes they get far to much, in terms of benefits, but the reality is, the amounts are relatively small.

Yet they wanted longer harder lockdowns if it saved just one life!

OP, you implied in your earlier posts that you had received a multi-million pound compensation for the injuries you sustained as a result of a horrendous assault carried out on you by an ex-partner.
May I ask, did you receive this payout from the ex-partner's personal assets/property? If not, please could you inform us of the source of this payment?
Thank you

It was illegal in 1996 to dismiss someone for being pregnant and had been for decades. If you were dismissed for that reason, you would have been entitled to compensation. I saw that as someone who was dismissed for getting pregnant over 20 years after 1996.

Thanks for the links. Overall the average boomer has taken out £400k more from the system than they put in. The younger generation will have to pay for these benefits that they will never be entitled to.

Being 'let go' for pregnancy and/or Motherhood might have been illegal in 1996 but it still happened. It still does. Any number of cases in front of the Employment Tribunal in Central London, often from Finance or top ten law firms, demonstrate the ongoing prevalence of that particular discrimination.

For every case that goes the distance and gets damages there will be many others that never get past first base.

Not specific to Employment but there's an Iceberg model for 'administrative justice' where the visible stuff is a fraction of what's hidden beneath the surface.

Yes it does still happen. As I said it happened to me fairly recently. I took my employer to a tribunal and received compensation (they settled as most do).

The idea that you could dismiss pregnant women without consequences in 1996 is nonsense. Of course it happened then and still happens now. But there is recourse. It is not an argument to privilege pensioners.

It's the tax payers who pay for pensions for those who haven't paid in and also not arranged their own private pension. Given tax payers are also mandated to pay into a private pension for themselves there is a limit on the burden that can be placed on working people.

Pensioners are tax payers too.

That was then, this is now. They weren’t in government during Covid so they could say what they liked without consequence. They are now the ones tasked with balancing the books so the rhetoric is very different. Pensioners dying of the cold this winter won’t be a good look, but their spin doctors will handle that and dress it up as something else, in the same way they’ve dressed up what is basically more austerity as ‘fixing the foundations’.

@User6874356 There is recourse but many women cannot afford legal advice and there is no legal aid.

I was 'made redundant' first morning back after maternity. They had given my job, my department to the sales director's wife. I was lucky, I'd taken family legal cover with my house insurance.

It still took a year of their threats and aggression to get them to a tribunal, and then they paid me a year's salary the night before.

I think the point is there are always exceptions and this govt is blithely ignoring that. I foresee a huge number of cold and sick pensioners this year. Let's hope the winter is not too severe.

£200 isn't going to make the difference between cold and not cold for a whole winter.

No, but it will give reassurance that in the very cold spells pensioners can put on their heating knowing that there’s £200-£300 there to cover it. And in the winter quarter it goes a long way towards the total bill.

Yes it does.

My dm was incredibly frugal with heating but she knew if she got too cold, she could turn the gas fire on for an hour or two and the payment would cover it. It stopped her worrying.

You really don't have a clue how older generations think, do you?