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Do you prefer Birmingham or Manchester

211 replies

Clarro · 05/09/2024 11:34

DH and I are moving out of London.

We are considering both cities. Which city itself do you prefer?

OP posts:
Crikeyalmighty · 06/09/2024 12:05

We also have lots of plays, Everyman cinema plus big Odeon, vast amount of restaurants, 2 universities in Bath, 2 in Bristol.lovely countryside on doorstep -

stokeynew · 06/09/2024 13:33

I would echo other people who have said that Altrincham would be a good choice for you as there’s enough going on there in terms of restaurants, bars etc to be a nice weekday distraction. Then it’s very easy to hop on a tram or train to Manchester (or even Liverpool) for fun cultural weekend activities. Also, as someone else mentioned you’re not far from getting out to the Peak District for a change of scenery not to mention several national trust properties in the vicinity

MikeRafone · 06/09/2024 14:25

I will add in something different

My daughter was living in Altringham and has moved to Warwick

Mentioned the other day that her house insurance and car insurance had dropped significantly - we are looking at over £300 per year

Clearly if youre buying a house for £900k then you're not short of money - but law of averages is you drive two cars that are a higher group than my dd and her house being small in comparison to a £900k proportionally you'd be paying a lot more up north for the insurances than down in Warwick

CasperGutman · 06/09/2024 15:02

I'd go with Manchester. Living in Altrincham there's plenty going on locally but a strong connection to Manchester, via Metrolink etc., probably more so than if you live in Warwick/Stratford and want to head into Birmingham. I reckon that would give you something as close to a "London lifestyle" as you would find outside London itself.

Others are right that neither Manchester nor Birmingham has anything approaching the cultural life of London. But it's a bit much to suggest you'll have exhausted the possibilities in a few weeks/months.

For example, if you're in Manchester, there may be far fewer theatres than you'd find in London but they don't tend to keep the same productions running for extended periods as many West End theatres do. By the time you've "done everything", there'll be a new-to-Manchester touring production at the Palace or Opera House, new plays at the Library or Royal Exchange, etc. Similarly, just because you saw a concert at the Bridgwater Hall last month doesn't mean you've "done" there and it holds no further appeal. Different performers are performing different works now.

Also, who wants to go somewhere "new" every weekend? Is this a peculiar London attitude that you can only go somewhere once? If you like a particular restaurant, bar, sports venue, activity, is it so odd to suggest you might want to experience it twice? Why wouldn't you want to try new dishes at your favourite restaurant, or hang out with friends in a favourite coffee shop or bar?

tfresh · 06/09/2024 15:04

Depends what you're into. If you want a vibrant food scene, lots of culture and growing city with great transport, Manchester is the way to go. I recently asked for recommendations for places to go in Birmingham and the answer was 'Brewdog'. Better curries there though.

Buddenbruchs · 06/09/2024 15:13

Clarro · 05/09/2024 12:24

We have decided we would live in Stratford/Warwick/Leamington Spa if we moved to Birmingham

And Knutsford, Altrincham, Wilmslow, Aderley Edge if we moved to Manchester.

We have done trips to these towns but always neglected looking around the actual city centres beyond a meal out.

We have a healthy budget, I homeschool my son (nd) and dh has offices in both cities.

We spend a lot of time out shopping, eating and going to museums and plays.

What a surprise. You and every other Tom, dick and harry. And your choice of locations is truly original with your to be expected healthy budget 😂

Timetotrimtoenails · 06/09/2024 15:29

Also, who wants to go somewhere "new" every weekend? Is this a peculiar London attitude that you can only go somewhere once? If you like a particular restaurant, bar, sports venue, activity, is it so odd to suggest you might want to experience it twice? Why wouldn't you want to try new dishes at your favourite restaurant, or hang out with friends in a favourite coffee shop or bar?

I don't think it's a specific Londoner attitude. I have friends from London. My friend who lives here now says she only tended to go to central London for work. Friends who still live there are mostly the same as her and they go to their favourite local cafes and pubs. None of them are particularly into going for days out especially not regularly or to central London for museums, galleries etc. They say people who do that are often not originally from London or are tourists because it's still a novelty (I've done it myself when visiting).

That said, everyone has different preferences and I'm sure some people from London like to do similar to OP. Each to their own.

Personally I think OP would be happier staying in London given her preferences and budget - unless she's wanting to move because she or her DH aren't from London originally and want to move closer to family?

JaninaDuszejko · 06/09/2024 15:30

And because dh, ds and I are used to “day outs” we just need a city which has stuff going on - plays, gigs, festivals. We would all struggle if we lived in the middle of nowhere.

Unless you are planning to move to the Highlands and Islands you are going to have at least one big city nearby and possibly more, but you won't want to do that every week. So, e.g., I lived in Cheshire about 30 years ago. We went into Manchester and Stockport on the train but also had days out in Buxton (for the opera), Macclesfield (silk museum), Alderley Edge (NT historic mill), Chester (pretty historic centre), and to Jodrell Bank (astromomy). That's a month of weekends without going anywhere near a city centre, would you and your DS like any of those activities? The reality is whether you live in Cheshire or Warwickshire you'll have access to lots of culture that is not in the big city centre. Both Manchester and Birmingham have lots going on but nobody in the regions just thinks about just one city providing everything they want.

I think you should probably rent out your London property and try renting in your prefered location for a year and see how you like the lifestyle. Get the Rough Guide to England and instead of heading for a city centre explore north, south, east and west of where you live as well as the nearest city. Join EH or NT and discover the local sites, it'll be different from London and that's the fun.

SnacklessWonder · 06/09/2024 17:16

tfresh · 06/09/2024 15:04

Depends what you're into. If you want a vibrant food scene, lots of culture and growing city with great transport, Manchester is the way to go. I recently asked for recommendations for places to go in Birmingham and the answer was 'Brewdog'. Better curries there though.

You asked the wrong people!

Peakypolly · 06/09/2024 17:54

The city centre was like an apocalypse due to all the demolition for HS2. Huge piles of rubble and graffiti everywhere. It felt like a dying city and some areas felt very sinister and intimidating. The city council are bankrupt and the city was dirty and unkempt.
i don’t think I’d want to spend a day there.

This is not my experience at all- there are roadworks of course but only similar to other cities I experience, throughout the world.
My DS lived by the Peace Garden for 2 years and never experienced any aggression. Neither have I and I frequently walk through the Jewellery Quarter alone late at night.
Also those saying Manchester has better restaurants. A quick google shows Birmingham has 9 Michelin starred restaurants and Manchester has 1. The hospitality sector in B'rum is really interesting. Nothing against Manchester though, I like it when I visit but that is only a couple of times a year on average.

westisbest1982 · 06/09/2024 18:15

What a surprise. You and every other Tom, dick and harry. And your choice of locations is truly original with your to be expected healthy budget 😂

Why the need to be bitchy? OP is looking for help, not to be sneered on @Buddenbruchs

eggplant16 · 06/09/2024 18:18

Clarro · 05/09/2024 12:26

Our budget is £800-950k (depends on a couple of factors we are waiting to see fall into play)

ere we go again. Yawn.

eggplant16 · 06/09/2024 18:19

curtaintwitcher78 · 05/09/2024 12:26

Manchester is lovely but it is always raining.
In general the people from both cities have a reputation for friendliness.

Its boiling today, so not true.

curtaintwitcher78 · 06/09/2024 18:38

eggplant16 · 06/09/2024 18:19

Its boiling today, so not true.

When I saw Blur at the MEN in 2009 it was boiling. So yes, occasionally 😁

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jazzyBBBB · 06/09/2024 18:58

I live near Birmingham and work 50% in Bham and 50% in Manchester.

If you are looking Leamington/Stratford side and want to retain easy access to London then definitely Birmingham.

I would say Birmingham has gone downhill since Covid but theatre and live events still better than Manchester. However Manchester will undoubtedly be getting more live music with the Co-Op Arena.

Restaurant quality about the same in both though Bham has more Michelin stars.

Tram network better in Manchester. Midlands public transport is dire.

The walk from Piccadilly down to Arndale in Manchester is like something from the apocalypse it's awful and I wouldn't take my kids down there. You can bypass it with a free bus though. Birmingham has bad areas of New street but it's like Buckingham Palace compared to Piccadilly!

The area around Exchange square in Manchester with Arndale, Corn Exchange, Printworks, Selfridges is great. Equally the Paradise and Brindleyplace areas of Birmingham are great.

Tough choice!

jazzyBBBB · 06/09/2024 19:02

Pa there is also a lot to keep you busy in Leamington / Stratford before you even need to venture to Bham!

MichaelandKirk · 06/09/2024 20:05

Honestly Stratford is no where near Birmingham and you would be hard pushed to find anyone who lives there but goes every weekend to Birmingham which is depressing and a real mess. It has no identity anymore.

I spend a lot of time in Birmingham and it’s not a good looking city. The council is bankrupt.

If you have lived in London which I have you will be very disappointed in Birmingham.

frenchanglaisbaby · 06/09/2024 20:26

Clarro · 05/09/2024 12:24

We have decided we would live in Stratford/Warwick/Leamington Spa if we moved to Birmingham

And Knutsford, Altrincham, Wilmslow, Aderley Edge if we moved to Manchester.

We have done trips to these towns but always neglected looking around the actual city centres beyond a meal out.

We have a healthy budget, I homeschool my son (nd) and dh has offices in both cities.

We spend a lot of time out shopping, eating and going to museums and plays.

Apart from Altrincham which is pushing it , the rest are in Cheshire. Not Manchester. 🤨 Totally different vibe to MCR.

Strugglingtothinkofausername · 06/09/2024 23:21

frenchanglaisbaby · 06/09/2024 20:26

Apart from Altrincham which is pushing it , the rest are in Cheshire. Not Manchester. 🤨 Totally different vibe to MCR.

Edited

If you read OPs update she’s acknowledged and explained that. They are completely aware it’s not actually in Manchester but are thinking of it terms of their nearest city. I did a similar thing when I was deciding what town to move to from when I left London.

SuddenlyINeedToGoCauseIHaveAThing · 06/09/2024 23:23

They’re both shitholes 😂

(Not a biased outsider, have lived in both!)

maddening · 06/09/2024 23:27

frenchanglaisbaby · 06/09/2024 20:26

Apart from Altrincham which is pushing it , the rest are in Cheshire. Not Manchester. 🤨 Totally different vibe to MCR.

Edited

But all still relatively close - wilmslow is 17-25 mins by local train and about £8 return.

SuddenlyINeedToGoCauseIHaveAThing · 06/09/2024 23:27

Having seen that you would be looking at Stratford/Leom/Warwick in the midlands, go for Cheshire. The former have beautiful countryside nearby, but are ultimately a bit lacking in buzz and character – my opinion. Stratford is nice to visit but wouldn’t want to live there personally.

You’re not actually looking at either Manchester or Birmingham 🥴

mrlistersgelfbride · 07/09/2024 00:33

Manchester was fantastic 10/15 years ago when I lived there.
Too up it's own arse now. Always rainy, always roadworks, too busy.
I also lived in Altrincham 8 years ago and loved it but as we left it just felt like it was getting more and more pretentious.
My partner worked in Brum once and I just thought it was grey, dull and a bit unsafe.
So Manchester gets my vote, but only just.