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Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 04/09/2024 08:35

I know most young families can't afford to buy houses outright, but I see all these more affordable homes go to greedy landlords just in it for the profit. Eugh it makes me sick! Would be so refreshing to see some of these homes go to people who won't just tosh them up cheaply to sell again or rent them out

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the80sweregreat · 05/09/2024 10:20

I've got grey in my kitchen and I like it !
It's inoffensive enough and you can brighten it up with nice pictures on the walls
I know it's probably dated by now, but I prefer it to magnolia walls.

Ilovetuesdays · 05/09/2024 10:47

I agree the formula is tired now and the programmes are so predictable. The only ones that are memorable for me are where people buy properties to live in themselves. I particularly enjoyed the one where a woman on her own bought a small house in Wales (?) and did a lot of the work herself on a very tight budget. She worked so hard to make a lovely home for herself.
The cheapskate landlord ones are shocking sometimes. I do like Xiulin though, his ££££££ properties are gorgeous, and the young gym owning couple do lovely renovations.
I watch every day Grin

Spidey66 · 05/09/2024 11:09

I like old property with character but couldn't deal with refurbishing one. My ideal home would be just like the 'afters', an old house sympathetically refurbished by someone else. Yes they make a profit, but they're not going to it for free are they? Do you work for free?

My dad was a builder and some property refurbishment, this is one of the many reasons I miss him!

User6874356 · 05/09/2024 11:14

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 04/09/2024 11:10

This is exactly how i feel, people will try and justify it any which way they can though.
If programmers like this didn't exist and landlords were fewer the housing situation would be so much better for those who struggle to afford a hole which they can own for themselves instead of renting forever at high costs.

Homes under the hammer generally shows people refurbishing unoccupied properties and bringing them back into use (as either rentals, sales or their own home). That’s actually increasing the amount of property available and decreasing housing costs.

i get that you’re jealous but it’s not helping you

User6874356 · 05/09/2024 11:24

AlecTrevelyan006 · 05/09/2024 10:02

Except they don’t have money

if the landlords are making a profit from doing it there’s no reason councils can’t too. However they tend to be awful at doing that type of thing- you can bet they’d spend five times as much for no better results.

Where my mum lives, private rents are not much more than council and the properties are much better quality (with flooring, white goods, etc). Yet private landlords are not given taxpayers money to invest in their business.

we need a mix of housing. Councils have shown themselves to be very poor at building and maintaining affordable housing at a reasonable cost.

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 05/09/2024 11:34

User6874356 · 05/09/2024 11:14

Homes under the hammer generally shows people refurbishing unoccupied properties and bringing them back into use (as either rentals, sales or their own home). That’s actually increasing the amount of property available and decreasing housing costs.

i get that you’re jealous but it’s not helping you

Jealous 🤣

What on earth is there to be jealous about?
I wouldn't want to be one of those people in a million years

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Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 05/09/2024 11:36

Ilovetuesdays · 05/09/2024 10:47

I agree the formula is tired now and the programmes are so predictable. The only ones that are memorable for me are where people buy properties to live in themselves. I particularly enjoyed the one where a woman on her own bought a small house in Wales (?) and did a lot of the work herself on a very tight budget. She worked so hard to make a lovely home for herself.
The cheapskate landlord ones are shocking sometimes. I do like Xiulin though, his ££££££ properties are gorgeous, and the young gym owning couple do lovely renovations.
I watch every day Grin

I'm loving farmhouse rescue and help I bought a village :)

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the80sweregreat · 05/09/2024 11:40

I wouldn't want the hassle of tenants really as houses / flats are money pits and always something needs sorting out.
I'd be too worried and don't have any builder friends or relatives to call on either
I'm sure it's lucrative, but also has lots of down sides too

Spidey66 · 05/09/2024 11:51

If you were a tenant, what would you rather? To rent a nicely done up house like the tenants are getting, or a totally unsafe shithole that they would have got if the landlord hadn't done it up?

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 05/09/2024 11:58

Spidey66 · 05/09/2024 11:51

If you were a tenant, what would you rather? To rent a nicely done up house like the tenants are getting, or a totally unsafe shithole that they would have got if the landlord hadn't done it up?

Personally whichever was cheapest unless it's a complete death trap of course.

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Xyz1234567 · 05/09/2024 12:05

What's to stop young people buying a dilapidated property and refurbishing it?
House prices in general are ridiculous but it's not because of Homes Under the Hammer!
Try looking at Thatcher selling off council houses and the following governments failing to build more council houses.
Applying rent controls would appear to make things even worse , see Scotland!

Crojo · 05/09/2024 12:12

Sartre · 05/09/2024 09:54

I’ve always enjoyed the show and like watching genuine couples renovate a home for themselves but hate it when it’s landlords with a giant portfolio, especially the ones who do the cheapest renovation they can get away with then rent the house out for way more than it’s worth. Also can’t stand watching the beautiful detached homes get turned into HMOs.

This 100%

It's a shame there's not a system where young families or people genuinely trying to get on the property ladder could have first dibs on auction properties.

Xyz1234567 · 05/09/2024 12:14

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 05/09/2024 11:58

Personally whichever was cheapest unless it's a complete death trap of course.

Nobody wants to live in an unsafe shit hole.

housethatbuiltme · 05/09/2024 12:16

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 05/09/2024 11:58

Personally whichever was cheapest unless it's a complete death trap of course.

I would rather OWN the shit hole and do it up to my tastes within my time frame of a lifetime.

For what its worth my rented house is not remotely 'done up' and that was part of why I liked it. It has the same wallpaper as my childhood home in the 90s etc... so wonderful nostalgia so being an ugly white and grey box would in NO WAY have appealed to me. It would be lovely if the landlord had done just basic maintenance but he won't, as soon as we moved in he does the bare minimum gas/electric safety and wont fix the other issues like damp which have gotten so bad its ruining everything.

I don't believe for one second the 'paint it white' landlords are fixing those things either. In fact we are currently STC on a house (but in a probate no mans land) we are buying that was a buy to let and its cheap because its RIDDLED with damp and structural issues the landlord hid and painted over. Currently it looks 'fine' in photos as a white box with grey carpet in every room. the bright white hides the salting and blown plaster and speckled grey helps disguise the damp floorboards. It needs a whole new roof from cheap bodges (removed lead on whacked cheap concrete on overloading it) and structural repair that where deliberately 'hidden' with mortar and paint rather than fixed too.

I'm happy to do that work to get a house though. Even a shiney new house needs maintence and things changing.

housethatbuiltme · 05/09/2024 12:18

Xyz1234567 · 05/09/2024 12:14

Nobody wants to live in an unsafe shit hole.

But we get that anyway even if painted white with the landlord special.

If it was OUR unsafe shithole we could make it safe and nice.

caringcarer · 05/09/2024 12:52

AlecTrevelyan006 · 05/09/2024 10:02

Except they don’t have money

So LL's are not stopping anyone else from buying then.

caringcarer · 05/09/2024 12:59

Many of you will be pleased to know LL's are selling off btl houses. According to Rightmove almost 1 in every 5 properties for sale was/is a btl property.

snowgirl1 · 05/09/2024 13:22

flyinghen · 04/09/2024 10:28

I'm not sure why people are saying you couldn't get a mortgage on the properties? Am I missing something, they are just regular houses? We got a mortgage on a do-er upper, we did it up with a baby in tow. I mean I was bat shit crazy to do it but it worked out in the end!

Because if you buy at auction you have to pay a 10% deposit on the day of the auction and then pay the balance in 20 days. If you want to take out a mortgage, you have to arrange a survey etc. before the lender will agree to give you the money - if you don't pay the balance in 20 days, you lose your deposit and you might be liable for additional costs of re-selling. As well as the other reason that PPs have said about some of the properties not being mortgageable due to lack of functional bathroom and kitchen.

housethatbuiltme · 05/09/2024 13:22

caringcarer · 05/09/2024 12:52

So LL's are not stopping anyone else from buying then.

I have been trying to buy for over a year, I'm a cash in hand first time buyer. I have the money thank you.

Many don't even hit the market as local buy to letters and flippers have deals with EA they already used before.

housethatbuiltme · 05/09/2024 13:27

snowgirl1 · 05/09/2024 13:22

Because if you buy at auction you have to pay a 10% deposit on the day of the auction and then pay the balance in 20 days. If you want to take out a mortgage, you have to arrange a survey etc. before the lender will agree to give you the money - if you don't pay the balance in 20 days, you lose your deposit and you might be liable for additional costs of re-selling. As well as the other reason that PPs have said about some of the properties not being mortgageable due to lack of functional bathroom and kitchen.

Yeah many auctions here are modern method, they are aimed specifically at people getting mortgages now. Also landlords are rarely cash buyers.

Mine certainly has a mortgage because the mortgage company just came out to do a reevaluation because he want to transfer companies and extend it (even though it must almost be paid off from the £78,000 he has had from us over the years) along with the rest of his massive portfolio.

Xyz1234567 · 05/09/2024 13:29

housethatbuiltme · 05/09/2024 13:27

Yeah many auctions here are modern method, they are aimed specifically at people getting mortgages now. Also landlords are rarely cash buyers.

Mine certainly has a mortgage because the mortgage company just came out to do a reevaluation because he want to transfer companies and extend it (even though it must almost be paid off from the £78,000 he has had from us over the years) along with the rest of his massive portfolio.

But where would you have been living if this house was not available for you to rent?

caringcarer · 05/09/2024 14:04

Crojo · 05/09/2024 12:12

This 100%

It's a shame there's not a system where young families or people genuinely trying to get on the property ladder could have first dibs on auction properties.

Anyone can go to a property auction. It's a level playing ground.

caringcarer · 05/09/2024 14:06

housethatbuiltme · 05/09/2024 13:22

I have been trying to buy for over a year, I'm a cash in hand first time buyer. I have the money thank you.

Many don't even hit the market as local buy to letters and flippers have deals with EA they already used before.

There are so many houses on Rightmove. Where are you that there are no houses left for you to buy?

theworldie · 05/09/2024 14:25

Xyz1234567 · 05/09/2024 12:05

What's to stop young people buying a dilapidated property and refurbishing it?
House prices in general are ridiculous but it's not because of Homes Under the Hammer!
Try looking at Thatcher selling off council houses and the following governments failing to build more council houses.
Applying rent controls would appear to make things even worse , see Scotland!

What's to stop young people buying a dilapidated property and refurbishing it?

Mainly that they can’t be arsed or would rather spend their money on nights out/having the latest iPhone/travelling etc. My ds is 25 and not one of his large group of friends has bought a house, they’re all either renting or at home. They want to be close to the city or live in trendy areas and won’t consider moving to less fashionable places, buying a do-er upper and putting the time/money in. That’s fine and dandy and today’s culture is more about living in the moment and having fun whilst you’re young, but you can’t have it both ways.

My dh is a LL and has now sold several of his properties due to ever increasing loopholes and the threat of rent controls etc. It’s already a longwinded and expensive process trying to get nuisance tenants who don’t pay their rent out of a property so why carry on if things are set to get worse? So those properties have now been taken away from the rental market. That’s been happening for quite a while now and is set to become the better option for many, especially now Labour are in power.

Less houses for rent/rising population/the government not building anywhere near enough social housing = well it’s a recipe for disaster and homelessness which is already happening.

Yes in an ideal world people would be handed a perfectly renovated and very cheap house because they feel they deserve it but life doesn’t work like that does it? My dh worked really hard and came from nothing to build his property business. He took risks when he was young to buy houses and worked 16 hour days 7 days a week to do them up ready for the rental market. The property market is very up and down and it certainly hasn’t been a bed of roses, he was rarely home when the dcs were young.

It makes me laugh when I read some of the ignorant comments on threads like these about greedy landlords “getting their comeuppance” and the jealousy-fuelled bile spilled from people who don’t even understand the first thing about the property market. If it’s such an easy buck to make why the hell haven’t you done it yourself?

Do you think supermarkets are evil for making a profit on the food they sell? A cup of coffee in my local cafe costs £4 and around 10p to make - a much bigger markup than the profit gained by LL’s nowadays - but coffee shops aren’t the subject of vitriolic rage. Most LL’s own a couple of properties and barely break even with all the rules and reg’s nowadays - my db rented out a property for a year and went through hell trying to get his house back when the tenants wouldn’t leave. They wrecked the house causing thousands of pounds worth of damage and he ended up out of pocket. And you can say “he deserved it” but how would you feel if that was your house? Again, he has sold it now - another houses taken out of the rental market which won’t be replaced by SA housing. For those of you who still havent grasped it: “THE GOVERNMENT/COUNCIL’S ARE NOT BUYING HOUSES, HOWEVER CHEAP, TO BUILD SOCIAL HOUSING”. They are not even making it easier for other people to use their own money to build houses, in fact they’re making it more difficult. But bringing in rent controls and rules that seemingly protect the renter are an instant vote-winner - even though those in power know themselves it is exacerbating the problem. They don’t care so long as they get your vote, and most people are too ignorant to know what’s actually going on.

Blaming Homes Under the Hammer on people not being able to buy homes, honestly 🤣 Do do some actual research instead of parroting the “evil landlord’s to blame” rhetoric you’ve been sold.

And to the posters saying completely thick things such as “homes should be auctioned off cheaply to the most deserving/bought cheaply as social housing” etc.
So if that were your DM’s house who’d died and been inherited by you and it was valued at £300k, you’d sell it for £100k to the young couple with a baby desperate to get on the housing ladder would you? Or to the council for a steal so they could rent it to a family on benefits?

Course you would!

TitusMoan · 05/09/2024 14:30

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 04/09/2024 10:49

It was his very obvious glee at the amount of money he was going to be making via HB from the taxpayer.

If even half that money (billions) that went (and probably still goes) to landlords, had gone into maintaining/building social housing instead, maybe the country’s finances wouldn’t be in quite such a mess now.

Ah I see. Thanks. Totally agree with you.

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