Lucy Letby’s scribbled notes

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At times when I’m feeling acutely distressed, it’s not at all unusual for me to scribble all sorts of dreadful thoughts down on paper eg die die die, hate hate hate, I hate you, I hate you, what’s the point of you, my fault, stupid me, etc etc etc, usually scribbling them all out so nobody can see what I’ve written. I’m pretty sure this is quite a common response to acute mental distress. I agree with this article that it feels very surprising that Letby’s scribblings were used as evidence of a ‘confession’.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/sep/03/i-am-evil-i-did-this-lucy-letbys-so-called-confessions-were-written-on-advice-of-counsellors

I think our legal system is often very shoddy; but certainly you are right that it is more robust than it would otherwise be because of the factors you mention.

In the very rare cases where there have been medical staff convicted of such things , there’s been a clear and intelligible motive. Lucy Letby had none.

Which medical serial killers and what were they clear & intelligible motives?

Do list all of them (the ones that have been detected of course) for us, if you're going to make statements like that.

Has it ever occurred to you that you think LL had no motives .... Because you don't think like her.

You don't have the foggiest notion what her thoughts, motivations, feelings etc. are.

She was certainly very excitable about babies deaths and imminent deaths, that's for sure.

Having to be told to leave grieving parents alone. Gushing about a just deceased baby enjoying their first bath, and offering to make memory boxes. Encouraging a baby's parents to move their infant into a ventilated crib for deceased babies, before they'd even died.
Predicting babies' deaths in callous terms.

He . Lost. The. Case.

Anyone would have lost that case.

He is still the most senior member of her legal team is he not?

Meanwhile an opinion from some of the people whose feelings seem to have been forgotten in this case:

“We would like to say, shame on you all.” That is the message to those calling for the release of Lucy Letby from the parents of twin boys, one murdered, the other attacked by the nurse.

And there is more:

“Our family is deeply shocked by the ongoing speculation surrounding what is being referred to as a miscarriage of justice,” the parents of babies E and F said. “Certain pieces of evidence being discussed in the media are grossly out of context and misrepresented. Misinformation is being circulated about what transpired in court. Having attended the trial ourselves, we are fully aware of what was said.”

And more:

“This whole traumatic experience made us question humanity,” they told The Sunday Times. “Why are people going out of their way to support a serial killer of babies?”
They said that the prosecution case put together “individual bricks” of evidence, adding: “Once they were all put together the wall of evidence was overwhelming. To take each brick out separately is simply taking evidence out of context.
“The spread of lies and misinformation is deeply distressing and makes us sick to our cores. We just want some peace to grieve, knowing the person who caused so much agony is where she belongs.”

*You don't have the foggiest notion what her thoughts, motivations, feelings etc. are.

She was certainly very excitable about babies deaths and imminent deaths, that's for sure.*

right 🙄

No.

I feel deeply sorry for the families- more so because I can’t imagine how traumatic it must be to be led to believe someone you trusted to care for your baby murdered them.

But sympathy for the families aside, there is no justice or sense in the wrongful conviction of an innocent person.

Accountability for the deaths of these babies involves holding the right people responsible.

Yes, right.

EVIDENCE.

Given by the parents whose babies died.

Remember them???!!!

By her colleagues who were deeply uncomfortable about her behaviour.

Why am I even replying to you, I've seen you in action throughout this thread. Enough said.

Not to mention her recording the babies deaths and stalking their families on the anniversaries.

What was it another poster of your ilk said?
"I think she was just seeing how they were doing".

Well, what a very strange coincidence that she never felt the need to "see how they were doing" in any normal life circumstances. When you might see some joy, some function, some break from their bereavements, some normality.

But No, no, no ..... Only on anniversaries when they would be marking their bereavements. When the only thing she'd see would be a record/revisitation of their losses. That's when she viewed their SM.

I would say there's a lot of naivety on this thread, but that would be being much too kind to many of the posters.

The parents response is understandable as they fully believe their babies were murdered. They’ve just gone through 10 years, a court case and just want it to be over.

That is why what has been done to them is so horrific. It’s drawn out brainwashing and mental torture.

But if it were me I would prefer know that my baby had not been murdered. And I would want to get to the bottom of what really happened - to understand who or what was really responsible. And I wouldn’t want someone else’s child imprisoned falsely for the sake of mine if none of it is true,

That’s not what I’ve heard, do you have a source?

Also I think there needs to be a reckoning of what the police and prosecution have put the parents through. It’s unconscionable.

It must never happen again.

There must be many more checks and balances in the police and the trial process.

You’d think the parents would much rather buy into the idea of medical negligence than creepy serial killer being responsible for their babies’ deaths, not least because then they would presumably be able to sue the NHS. Have none of them come out in suport of LL and if not why not, do you suppose?

What is wrong with you?

The parents response is understandable as they fully believe their babies were murdered

The parents related their experiences of LL at the time of the events.

Before the investigation. When they knew nothing of any deliberate harm.

They related what she said and how she acted on that ward at that time.

Her colleagues did too.

That was how she acted, and how parents and colleagues felt AT THE TIME.

Don't be disengenuous or purposefully obtuse.

Unless you are going to put the disgusting cherry on your shit cake by claiming the parents are LIARS or misremembering about what happened and what LL did,/said etc. before there was ever any investigation or trial.
How very convenient for you that all the parents who gave evidence have such shoddy memories and are such liars.

What us wrong with you, Tandora and Mirabai?

That's a rhetorical question.

I know the answer.

Because they were brainwashed by the police. All the memories they had were reinterpreted in the light of the police’s conviction LL is a murderer - which of course none of the suspected at the time.

I’d imagine it would be very difficult to accept that the police sold an untruth. Can you imagine what would do to your life.

If they didn’t notice in the court case that the science was bogus they’re not going to understand where this was coming from. So they just see it as someone championing Shipman over lack of evidence.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3d93kpkl83o.amp

Because they’ve been led to believe that Lucy Letby murdered them obviously.
This literally happens in every wrongful conviction case. Understandably it is deeply upsetting and re traumatising for the families. Thats why police and prosecutors (and this case doctors) need to be more responsible.

@Mirabai I thought you weren't even 100% on her innocence but now you seem absolutely convinced. If you had any respect or care for the parents you'd stop all this. They know the truth. No one involved in trying to get justice has put the parents through anything more than what was necessary to get to the truth. Lucy caused all this, not the doctors not the justice system, but it's people like you who are adding to the parents grief and anger now.

😂 just like you know all about this case 👍🏻

What I said was I’ve no idea whether she’s innocent but I know there’s no evidence against her,

How could I know for sure I’m not God.