To think this man should have been thrown off the bus.................

[BohemianLilly]

Oh dear god, i have just had to out up with the worst smell i have ever encountered in my life!!!

It was like rotting corpses, stale fish and urine

This man was just happily sat there smelling like death while every single person on the bus was gagging (literally) even the LOs were complaining

Even now, 30 miutes after my experience im still gagging at the thought of it

Am i BU to think he should of been asked to get off the bus?? i bet i am, but why should anyone have to endure that??

What's pc is people going on about his right to inflict an disgusting stink on all those around him in an enclose space and that everybody else should just put up with it.

ah did he chose it or does he have diminished responsibility and impaired motivation or inability to undertake ADL.

these lassies were dead frightening, janni. they really were. they were blasting music in the back of the bus and no one dared say a word. their speech was all slurred and they pushed their way off the bus to everyone's relief.

they had skin like Amy Winehouse's complexion.

not a pretty sight.

but, if they'd gotten really bad and aggro, i'd have just gotten off and waited for the next bus.

John Martyn is pitiful.

know what you mean expat, recently shared a bus with screaming addict/pisshead couple - she was screeching at him about shagging some other woman, references to "her stinking c**t" etc.

the whole bus was gobsmacked but couple were too foul and violent for anyone to challenge them. they had already nearly trampled on my 3 yr old trying to get on bus.

now they deserved to get chucked off.

ofgs, get a peg for your nose.

dh rotting flesh smell still haunts me now.

its not gonna kill you is it?

anyway most of the SE stinks atm anyway so we wouldnt even notice it.

i like john martyn solid air

Usually if people are that smelly it is either because of mental health problems/learning difficulties or physiological problems. Most of these these things are something that these people don't have control over and should not be held responsible for.

I wonder if the reaction would be the same if it were a child who was soiled but was unable to clean themselves? It may be pc but I'd be inclined to assume that they were unable to care for themslves (for whatever reasons) and they should be pitied more than shunned. If you regularly saw someone you knew was a minger and too lazy to wash, it would be different I guess.

see these yobbos who get on the bus and inflict their bad behaviour on the other passengers are part of the same malaise.

30 years ago, they simply would have been thrown off whether they'd paid their fares or not. Nowadays, there isn't the same agreement about what constitutes unacceptable behaviour in a public place.

yes what's that emmm vapour eau de manure

Well most teenage yobs don't even pay fares now . They are threatened with the loss of their free Oystercards though.

expat - it's horrible being on a bus with people whose behaviour is unpredictable, especially if you've got your kids with you.
Sympathies!

The thing is, if people are allowed to behave badly on buses/ in parks/ libraries etc., they put other people off using them.

So car usage goes up, people stay in their gardens instead of going to the park, they go to Waterstones instead of the library and the standard of behaviour in public amenities goes down so people become even more reluctant to use them. The authorities then have an excuse to close down libraries/ build houses on parks, because no-one's using them. Tolerance of bad behaviour has a huge impact on use and therefore provision of services. It may not be immediate, but it's a long-term corrosive effect.

There's a difference between voluntary bad behaviour (yobbo) and involuntary bad behaviour (often smellyness- mental health/LDs/physiological).

littleBella what a huge extrapolation!one malodorous maybe vulnerable man responsible for so much!cor imagine whathe could do if he had a wash

I can remember to my utter shame now sitting next to a girl on the school bus with my friend and us commenting out loud on the 'unpleasant' smell - she didn't smell bad actually,just that smell of unaired linen in a cupboard iykwim.- but she came from a big,rough family and we were little snobs I'm ashamed to say...so I guess YABU

i'm surprised she didn't get the hell out of you two, Mary!

Back to the OP - I think this amn most definitely had mental health issues and that we should not write off public services because of such experiences i.e. he was the exception rather than the norm.

sorry - man

Just because a man stinks to high heaven he "most definitely had mental health issues"? That's one hell of an assumption.

I was once that smelly person - spent all day thinking we had blocked drains only to finally realise it was me. Turned out the wound I had from a mole removal had become infected. No-one had warned me about this (or given me a proper dressing, but that's another story...) and I was only 19 so a bit clueless.

So, YANBU to be repelled because it is a basic human instinct. But anyone would BU to treat someone with less respect because they smelt - plenty of examples on this thread of reasons why people might honk that are completely beyond their control. Those of us who are lucky enough to be healthy can control our reactions to those who aren't. Sorry to sound po-faced but it's really upsetting to think people would be so unkind.

ok turnabout instead of focussing upon said man what does this say about us?Smelly does that make him undeserving or bad or mad

ease up a bit, as you go home to your fragrant good self care and obvious access to internet. wehat is that wee man up to?

smelly oh so what!
get over it

i'm one of those people who likes perfume, too .