To wonder what happens when you reach a healthy weight on Wegovy etc?

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I have three friends who were mildly overweight who've used Wegovy. All are now looking very slim - one looks a bit frail - she's lost 3 stone. Two of them lied online about their weight to get it. Anyway, they are happy with their new thinness and the new reasrch that it's a potential wonder drug.

What happens when you stop? Do you get the anti inflammatory benefits forever? Or does everything on your body return to how it was - hunger back, no anti inflammatory benefits?

I'm constantly tempted - have a bmi of 29 and need to lose a good stone and a half - but can't seem to find anything about people who have stopped the drug.

Also I'm slightly worried one of my friends is going to disappear, as she's already thin but still taking it. Can you just take it forever?

Why? The first time I ever weighed myself (at a friend’s house, because my parents didn’t have bathroom scales) was when I was 12 years old. I weighed 10 stones, which was ‘very overweight’ for my height according to the NHS children’s BMI calculator.

I’m now 9 stones with a BMI around 21. Perfectly healthy.

You appear to have ignored everything else I said and just picked out a clickbait headline, Daily Mail style.

And I literally answered the question about maintenance doses in my post right before you said this.

So I went from 15st 10 to 10st 10lbs..

I have been there for 2 years. (Early starter via a medical trial) .. it taught me healthy eating.

It also reversed my type 2 diabetes
Reduced my BP from 151/120 to 111/78
It made me feel confident enough to go to the gym which I genuinely enjoy now.
I no longer require injections into my knee for arthritis
My thyroxine has reduced from 200mg to 100mg
I no longer require BP medicine
I no longer require dexa scans
My urinary incontinence has stopped .
I am off of the depression meds (citalopram)

I also did ZOE so now know what food suits ME

COMPLETE GAME CHANGER !!

@amusedbush I'm in a similar boat as you. My first experience of weight loss was when I was 11 and my mum took me to weightwatchers, I was 11stone then and matched age to weight throughout my teens, highest weight I can remember is about 21 stone.

Currently at 15 stone which is the result of years and years of yo yo dieting where the only way of losing was to completely eliminate all carbs except green veg. No pasta, bread, rice, fruit... just meat, eggs, dairy, nuts and greens like broccoli. I have to go to low/very low carb to see any change in the scales, calories are less important I can eat up to 1600 calories a day and see a loss, I just have to restrict to a very small selection of foods.

I now understand that my weight gain coincided with puberty and the onset of PCOS.

As an aside, I was officially diagnosed with PCOS when I was 28 via hormone testing and an Ultrasound showing multiple cysts on my ovary. At the time and in the intervening years I have been refused any medical or nutritional support by various doctors, all of whom gave me variations of 'you're fat, sort yourself out'. I was diagnosed with Gestational diabetes when I was 30 and pregnant, I was told it will go away as soon as the baby was born, no follow up will be needed. I went to the GP in the 10 years following that on several occasions about period problems, weight etc and was told each time 'yep, you need to lose weight' no help made available.

Then a few weeks ago it was discovered I'm diabetic, have been for a while according to the blood test. Now I'm actively monitoring my sugar levels it's really interesting to see the massive spikes if I eat anything like a potato and observe how thirsty, tired, hungry and grumpy the high blood sugar level makes me within an hour of eating.

I am not a newspaper editor. I picked out the bit that shocked me.

somethingsnappy

Yes, menopausal (50's), only 4 foot 11.

I'm 11 stone and my lowest healthy weight is 8 stone so I'm going to aim between 8 and 9.

I'm the unluckiest person on the planet when it comes to weight loss. When I was 15 stone I had to eat less than 1400 calories to lose weight (had a gastric sleeve to take off the 4 stone)

Now I'm 11 stone I have to eat so little and the only way that's possible is with this drug or I'd be starving and fainting

And I am very active - here's todays Oura ring - 21000 steps

So I have a stomach a quarter of the size of before and eat about 600 calories 😂

I'm pre diabetic and have fatty liver disease too

I am one of the people who had to fib a little to get it. I was fat, just not obese.

2 months in and over 2 stone down, I am probably on my last pen. I’m on mounjaro.

I hope the fact I can eat so little and be fine will stay with me. Even without the appetite suppression, I know I do not need many calories. And I certainly don’t need my husband giving me a dinner the same size as his!

Even though I wasn’t so fat that it affected my day to day life, I feel so much better that I never want to gain weight again. I was lovely and thin my whole life until about 3 years ago, so my journey into fatness was short but horrendous and I had reached the point where I couldn’t stand to look at my reflection. No photos of me from the last 3 years exist; I’d immediately delete any my husband or kids took of me. I’m hoping to remember all of this as I go forward. All of my weight was around my belly, and I know how unhealthy this was.

I have t noticed any muscle loss, but I am a gym regular.

The loss of muscle mass is the same with any weight loss regime, which is why you/your partner in this case should eat high protein and do strength training. It's common sense.

But my story implied that I was overweight when I was 12. What is so shocking about an adult being a (healthy) weight that is lower than when they were an obese pre-teen? Surely that’s a positive thing?

I’m not trying to pick a fight or be deliberately obtuse here; I’m autistic and I genuinely don’t understand, so would appreciate some clarity.

Thanks to those people who have posted some helpful/factual links. I've obviously seen these drugs mentioned but I'd rather naively dismissed them as a gimmick or something only celebs got. But this thread has been really interesting.

I've been obese all my life. Like a previous poster I was taken to weight watchers at 10 years old weighing 10 stone and my weight matched my age for years. I'm probably around 25 stone now, I've not weighed myself in years though. I've tried all the diets, xenical/alli which didn't work for me. My next step was to look into CBT to tackle my binge eating.

I'm wondering if this would be a better option?

My weight has never bothered me as such but now it's becoming a problem. I can't keep up with my kids, I know I wouldn't fit in a theme park ride if they asked to go and my knees are starting to hurt daily. I'm surprised I've got away with being healthy for as long as I have.

Can I ask, is it expensive? And weighing 25 stone + is there any hope of me getting my gp to prescribe it?

I would like to try it as well because I hate being hungry, it makes me as hangry as a toddler.

@tiredconfusedhungry Mounjaro (which has less side effects than Wegovy or Ozempic) is not available via GP yet unless you are diabetic, but it might be by October - however I suspect it will be very much a lottery as to whether it will be prescribed, and even then I think you have to hoop jump through the NHS Weight Loss Management service, which can take a year or two to get on in the first place. Hence so many people getting it private.

It's around £150-200 for four doses, depending on if it's 2,5mg, 5mg etc. Everyone starts on 2.5mg as the starter dose.

@tiredconfusedhungry the private prescription for Mounjaro is fairly expensive, can be from around £130 to £200 or so per pen depending on which supplier and any introductory discounts or other people using your referral code. A pen contains 4 doses, which lasts you for four weeks - you inject once per week. I find that I am spending less on my weekly food shop and much less on takeaway/fast food etc when out and about. So that helps to counterbalance.

I have heard of some cases where GPs have prescribed it but usually because of people having other conditions alongside like diabetes. But it's not common, and often GPs won't consider prescribing until you've been through more than one level of weight loss "treatment" like going to a weight loss group, exercise, dietician etc.

@Hoplolly thanks. That's quite a bit of money for me at the moment, but is 4 doses 4 months worth?

No @tiredconfusedhungry Each pen contains 4 doses (and a bonus does if you want to syringe it out!) and you take one weekly. So a £150 lasts you four weeks.

I would say yes. I’ve been on different injections since Nov 22 started with Saxenda, Victoza, Trulicity until each went out of stock and now one of the latest.

I haven’t starved myself, barely suffered side effects and lost modest weight in a long time whilst being active. Went from top end of 19 stone down to 15.7 put a stone on in last 6 weeks as fell off the wagon.

Flabby skin in upper thighs, bingo excess skin upper arms and fluid retention in ankles. Despite remaining active for 6/7 days of week and losing weight slowly.

It use to be you had to lose a percent of body weight in such a period of time to stay on Saxenda but I notice barely a mention of this with the latest known injections and I wasn’t stopped when I admitted I’d put a stone on to the private provider after a 6 week break so the op’s query doesn’t surprise me, the other way is get roundable too.

I just don’t think I can handle the old weight loss medications my simba, orlistat and been fortunate no side effects and equally very well controlled diabetic results.

The people I know on these injections are now very slim, slimmer than they've ever been when young infact but they have lost muscle and even the fat in their face etc, and yes frail and older. Not saying this to put people off as I think that's much better than being overweight and unhealthy and unhappy. So I'm all for them.
And yes the food noise will return as before so once weight reached then will have to maintain as if lost normally.

This is my experience as well.

That's not to say these drugs don't have their place in treating obesity.

I'll look forward to looking frail and old...

I want to lose the fat on my face. I have a fat face because I'm massively overweight, obese! I'd be a bit upset if I got to my eventual target weight and still had a fat face.

I’m not frail and old! I have visible muscle definition in my arms and legs, and I’m working on my middle. I have loads of energy. I can run easily. I look younger.

Why, what is wrong with what I said? I don't understand.

Where is the cheapest/most cost effective place to get it from? I'm doing a lot of research but £200 a month would be a stretch for us right now, it's going to take some quite harsh cost cutting. But ultimately will be worth it.

I get it from MedExpress, if you use a referral code (mine is J126RG) you can get £40 off your first pen which should make it about £110 for the 2.5mg pen. The 5mg pen is £150 and then they start to go up in price depending on dose.

This website posts regular updates on prices from a variety of suppliers:

https://www.missmounjarouk.com/about-3

There is a thread on MN in the Weight Loss Injections section that collects discount/referral codes for the various suppliers.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight-loss-injections/5131241-mnhq-thread-for-referraldiscount-codes-please-dont-post-elsewhere