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Why don't holiday cottage companies do these things? AIBU?

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TheStroppyFeminist · 27/08/2024 15:28

I have been searching for a holiday cottage for next year and so far haven't found the right one but FGS, why don't cottage companies:

  1. Show you a floor plan? I want to see where each bedroom is in relation to other bedrooms because of snoring etc
  2. Show you the bathrooms properly? I want a huge walk in shower and I want a separate attachment as well but you can hardly ever see whether there is one
  3. Insist on a 10am checkout and a 4pm or later check in? It's annoying and we sometimes leave the day before to avoid getting up early
I also won't empty bins or strip beds, I'm on holiday! AIBU? What are your self catering hates?

YABU, understandable, they CBA
YANBU, they really should provide this info

OP posts:
DonnyDoris · 27/08/2024 18:44

pinkspeakers · 27/08/2024 15:59

I was baffled recently by the 6 bed house that we rented for 4 nights recently. Loads of room, pretty well equipped kitchen. But only one tea towel! Why???

This!! A group of us rented a huge place in Wales recently - fabulous house for a party, but 1 tea towel and no basic kitchen utensils eg tongs, spatula etc. Made cooking breakfast for 20 an interesting experience!!!

letmego24 · 27/08/2024 18:46

I don't think a floor plan is standard or really needed. Good photos though. Agree check out could be at least 11 am and check in three pm.

Fizbosshoes · 27/08/2024 18:47

Nadeed · 27/08/2024 18:23

@HoopLaLah My biggest bug bear is cottages that do not include enough facilities for the number of beds. Most commonly a lack of dining chairs. If you have 6 beds I do expect a table large enough for us all to eat at and 6 dining chairs.

We hired a cottage that slept 8, plenty of space in the lounge, dining room, terrace etc and sleeping space for 8, but the kitchen was tiny! (Admittedly there was plenty of glasses, plates etc) We ate out 3 times but having 2 people making breakfast in there was crowded

OneTC · 27/08/2024 18:49

If a place has a really nice bathroom they'll show lots of pictures.

If there's no pictures of it at all it'll be awful.

Never considered a floor plan

Most places offer a cop out fee for cleaning, but mostly the level of cleaning required takes about 10 minutes if there's a few of you doing it

LifesTooShortForYourNonsense · 27/08/2024 18:49

What you want is a hotel.

Runb2 · 27/08/2024 18:50

A place we stayed in on the Isle of Wight had the owners of the house and their dogs staying at the end of the garden!! No mention of this on listing and it was bloody expensive. It was awful. Watching your every move...

Runb2 · 27/08/2024 18:51

Runb2 · 27/08/2024 18:50

A place we stayed in on the Isle of Wight had the owners of the house and their dogs staying at the end of the garden!! No mention of this on listing and it was bloody expensive. It was awful. Watching your every move...

Should have added they were in a caravan and gave the distinct impression that they were renting out their house under sufferance

Killingoffmyflowersonebyone · 27/08/2024 18:54

Nanny0gg · 27/08/2024 18:02

Well, surely if you're staying at home you do have to do the beds?

A staycation is staying in a holiday cottage in the UK - so no. I don't do the beds. I make my bed every day, but I'm not stripping the beds etc.

KeepScrapingBy · 27/08/2024 18:55

I like to know bed sizes - whether a double, king or super king (ideally).
Whether owner lives on site. Doesn’t matter too much either way but I just want to know!
Whether facilities like washing or garden are just ours or shared with other guests or the owner.
If we’re going to be asked to strip beds etc (prefer not to).
Whether we need to bring essentials like loo rolls, washing up liquid etc.

99problemsandthetimeis1 · 27/08/2024 18:55

I sort of understood the stripping beds thing during lockdown (although I didn't travel then so wasn't directly affected) but why is this still a thing?

I used to consider holiday lets before all this crap. These days, I book a hotel. It's usually more expensive, but I can check out between 11am and 12noon, I don't have to do the laundry/cleaning, I know whether non-service animals have stayed in the property before and I know I'll get a decent shower. These are basic requirements for me, so it's hotels all the way now.

Fair enough for holiday lets to change their rules. Fair enough for me to refuse to stay.

Fizbosshoes · 27/08/2024 18:55

Runb2 · 27/08/2024 18:50

A place we stayed in on the Isle of Wight had the owners of the house and their dogs staying at the end of the garden!! No mention of this on listing and it was bloody expensive. It was awful. Watching your every move...

In the 1980s/ 1990s we went to some truly dreadful places, I'm pretty sure there were less regulations back then and sometimes a paragraph of text was all you had to go on. As kids we usually thought it was exciting or funny but looking back, my mum spent the first day cleaning and my dad would be in a phone box up the road calling the owner to sort out the daily power cuts!
One place was a sort of bungalow in the carpark of a co-op, the owners had 1 part, we had the other. Another time the owners had converted the garage to live in themselves but me and sis (teens) found it really awkward because their windows were at right angles to our bedroom window.

HainaultViaNewburyPark · 27/08/2024 18:58

Emptying the bin is fine as long as there is somewhere to put the rubbish. I once stayed in a town centre apartment, with no parking and they expected us to take glass bottles to the bottle bank by the out of town supermarket (they also specified no glass in the general waste). That was a no. I’d come by train. I wasn’t doing a 4 mile round trip for their convenience!

the80sweregreat · 27/08/2024 19:05

It's a good point below around expectations of having to do these things. I'm sue it wasn't as big a deal as it seems to be now.
Of course there are people who won't leave it tidy or abuse the place , but maybe the owners should do the deposit thing they have abroad for holiday let's , as that is a good incentive in order to get your money back especially if it's 100 pounds or 150 or something like that.

Keepchangingyourname · 27/08/2024 19:06

I think it should have a section telling you if the owners are within spying distance 🤣🤣🤣

we once spent a weekend being watched by the owners - I couldn’t wait to get out of there- even better , a few weeks later I looked at the reviews and a person who stayed after us had left a review on the website saying the owner let herself in at 3 in the morning to switch a light off that had been left on.
the owner had replied that she had no choice but to come in as she had rung him and no one had answered.
and the reviewer just said - I know I didn’t answer, it was three in the morning
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

taxguru · 27/08/2024 19:07

@DappledThings

The check-in and out times aren't that different to a hotel.

You can usually contact the hotel and ask for early check in or late check out. Yes, there may be a nominal charge. But that's virtually impossible with a holiday let - you often can't actually contact the owner beforehand to try to arrange that kind of thing.

You also aren't expected to clean the room, strip the beds, etc.

Nadeed · 27/08/2024 19:07

I think this is why aparthotels are springing up. More space than a hotel room, but professional standards.

taxguru · 27/08/2024 19:09

99problemsandthetimeis1 · 27/08/2024 18:55

I sort of understood the stripping beds thing during lockdown (although I didn't travel then so wasn't directly affected) but why is this still a thing?

I used to consider holiday lets before all this crap. These days, I book a hotel. It's usually more expensive, but I can check out between 11am and 12noon, I don't have to do the laundry/cleaning, I know whether non-service animals have stayed in the property before and I know I'll get a decent shower. These are basic requirements for me, so it's hotels all the way now.

Fair enough for holiday lets to change their rules. Fair enough for me to refuse to stay.

Covid also caused the early check out and late check in. Before that, things were more flexible. Check out was typically 11am and check in 3pm. And yes, having to strip the beds, mop/vacuum floors, was virtually unheard of before Covid. Holiday let owners are just taking the piss now - as someone said above, they can do it because of high demand.

Everyoneesleistheproblem · 27/08/2024 19:10

ShutTheFuckUpCakes · 27/08/2024 15:34

The whole "leave by 10am but also strip beds, hoover, empty dishwasher, empty bins, sort recycling" business pisses me off. Either let me leave by midday so I've got time to do everything plus pack the car before we go, or let me leave at 10am having done just a basic clean and left the dishwasher running! It makes the last morning a mad stressful rush 😬

Edited

This exactly.

Also photos tend to be nothing like the place. And putting lots of photos of the area isn't helpful unless they relate to the property ie showing you it's on a hill.I agree a floor plan would help.

SurferRona · 27/08/2024 19:11

Depends on your provider. Mine does all of this. But the properties are very, very high end only, so specialist and spendy.

TorroFerney · 27/08/2024 19:11

JBJ · 27/08/2024 16:27

I'd love a floor plan, as Ds (18) is a terrible sleeper and goes back and forth to the loo about a million times, so would be lovely to book somewhere that got a bedroom for me that's not next to the bathroom!

My biggest bugbear lately has been trying to book a holiday apartment in Spain and them not stating what floor it's on or if there's a lift. I'm physically disabled and struggle with stairs, so I'm having to message every host to ask this.

We often stop in static caravans and there's an expectation to clean the whole place and be out by 10am, which drives me nuts as I'm not the speediest person due to disabilities, so end up getting up at the crack of dawn to get cleaned and packed.

Oh yes the guess the floor. I won't have a ground floor room, I end up looking at the view from the pictures of the windows to assess if it's ground floor or not!

Sotiredmjmmy · 27/08/2024 19:12

The check in / check out times are reasonable - the housekeepers will generally be turning over 3-4 properties in the same day and have to do each house plus drive between them so any shorter and the properties wouldn’t be ready and then people would complain.

Floorplans I agree - always worth including

Shower - that’s your mountain and very particular to your requirements but you could always phone and ask the lettings company to confirm

DistractMe · 27/08/2024 19:14

I think we must have found the unicorn of holiday cottages. All I'll say about the location is that it is in a beautiful corner of the West of Scotland.

It's a large and comfortable modern house, with a floor plan on the website, the kitchen has everything you could possibly need, all bedrooms are ensuite, the WiFi is excellent (and essential as there is zero phone reception). There is even a boot dryer by the door. And it didn't cost the earth.

I didn't realise I would appreciate a floor plan, but now see how useful it was in planning who would sleep where.

I think guests are asked to strip the beds so that the local cleaners don't have to touch other people's used bedding and towels and just take the bags to a commercial laundry. I've stayed in cottages for over 50 years and it's never occurred to me to question that.

taxguru · 27/08/2024 19:14

TizerorFizz · 27/08/2024 17:42

My property satisfies what most people want! Three walk in showers. One relaxing bath! Clear info about en suites and layout. Small boutique agency. Half full this summer. It’s dispiriting when so many of you cannot find us. Yes, we are a town house but have views to die for. I’ve come to the conclusion that people don’t look beyond the big agencies like Sykes. The smaller ones have local managers and people who care. No, you don’t have to strip the beds! Yes, lots of kitchen space for food storage. Loads of big mugs! Plenty of crockery and cutlery. Wine glasses and tumblers and a Nespresso compatible coffee machine. Maybe we just aren’t cheap enough?

Have you good a good website that ranks highly in Google searches for your location? Is your website also listed on local directory sites?

You need to "compete" with the likes of Sykes, Cottages.com etc., so you need to be easily found and be on the first page of Google results for people searching the type of accommodation and location.

But why wouldn't you list via Sykes or Cottages.com - you can still have it cleaned and managed locally by your own people and just use it for advertising and bookings management?

Yes, I know commissions and other charges by Sykes and cottages.com are high, but that is usually more than paid for by having a much higher occupancy level and saves you the cost of having your own website, search engine optimisation, credit card processing fees, etc.

Midlifestylecrisis · 27/08/2024 19:17

As other posters have said, I think that the increasing lateness of check in times during the pandemic has just been retained. I’m staying in a cottage in a couple of weeks and have just received an email which says that check in is 4.30pm. My own fault for not noticing when I booked, but I think that is too late when the check out time is 10 am.

Also, not finding out the full address until after booking (just the general area) means you can’t checkout things like road proximity etc.

Other pet peeves include no welcome pack at all in 5 star properties, one towel per person per week which can be impossible to get dry, bizarre heating timings, and uncomfortable beds and/or sofas (which aren’t necessarily old).

TizerorFizz · 27/08/2024 19:18

@HoopLaLah Thank you for your feedback. The agent hasn’t used all the photos. There are two sofas on the top floor. It’s not a huge top floor. You are right about that. Feedback shows we don’t get 6 there very often. We have tried to make it suitable for the number of users. Our neighbour squeezes in 8.

@poetryandwine Thats very kind of you,

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