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Who should receive the compensation?

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Olanabunny · 20/08/2024 23:16

An extended family holiday booked to celebrate somebody's big birthday
Birthday person's cost for the holiday was spread between the rest of the people attending. 2 free child places were also applied
Flight was significantly delayed
Compensation was claimed by the lead of the booking and received today.
How should it be split?
Should the children with a free place be awarded it? Should the birthday person receive a share even though they didn't pay anything towards the holiday or should those who paid for their holiday receive a portion of it back?

OP posts:
YellowDaffodilRedTulip · 21/08/2024 08:45

Free flights for their children plus £1000? That would be very cheeky.

I would see that any expenses the children incurred due to the delay were covered and then split it per adult.

Ivehearditbothways · 21/08/2024 08:45

KTheGrey · 21/08/2024 08:39

It’s financial, so it goes back to those who paid out in the proportions they paid. I can see the argument that all passengers were delayed and therefore were inconvenienced, but giving two children £520 each as a reward for bad luck seems to teach a bad lesson to me.

It’s not about lessons. If it were, the adults shouldn’t get it either. Why are adults kore deserving of money for bad luck than children are?

What is wrong with all you people who would make a claim, name the children to get the payment up higher, and then steal money which is legally theirs and which you confirmed you would distribute to them.

Bunch of thieves because children don’t know any better. It says a lot about your characters that you would steal from someone who didn’t know better. What about an adult with dementia? They wouldn’t even remember. What about an adult with severe learning difficulties? They wouldn’t understand.

llamajohn · 21/08/2024 08:45

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 21/08/2024 08:34

Pay it equally to the adults only.

but had each family done their own comp. the family of 4 would have received 4 x comp amount. so why is it ok for the other to keep?

GoFigure235 · 21/08/2024 08:46

YellowDaffodilRedTulip · 21/08/2024 08:45

Free flights for their children plus £1000? That would be very cheeky.

I would see that any expenses the children incurred due to the delay were covered and then split it per adult.

Why should the other adults receive additional compensation, which they are not due, because they had a couple of children travelling "free" in their party?

Sparkletastic · 21/08/2024 08:46

I guess technically everyone should get a share. That said, my family and I were going on a holiday entirely paid for by my dad years ago when Gatwick drone day madness struck. We spent a long day in the airport, had to come home that night then ended up getting the train to Glasgow, staying 2 nights, and then finally flying to our destination. My dad claimed for and received compensation. I would have been horrified at any suggestion that he share it out between us all and saw it as a reward for his generosity. If I were an adult in your party I'd expect it to be divided between those that paid.

homeishere · 21/08/2024 08:46

Everyone gets it equally, including birthday and kids. Kids can spend it on whatever they want!

Likewhatever · 21/08/2024 08:47

I would include the birthday person in the payout because they were inconvenienced too. I would not include the children because their money will just go to the parents, making their split a more generous one.

GoFigure235 · 21/08/2024 08:47

homeishere · 21/08/2024 08:46

Everyone gets it equally, including birthday and kids. Kids can spend it on whatever they want!

I would not be handing £500 plus to an under 12!

Tiswa · 21/08/2024 08:48

It’s not hard legally and morally the money was received for each passenger - if the children and the birthday person hadn’t travelled the money would not be there.

if it was a refund then it should be split between those who paid but it isn’t

there isn’t actually any grey area here - the money is allocated by the airline per passenger travelled for that passenger

llamajohn · 21/08/2024 08:48

Imagine of all families shad sought their own comp and it had been given per passenger to each family at £500 each (or whatever)

So the couples would get £1000
the family of 4 £2000
The birthday couple £1000

Would the "paying" people then demand that the family with children and the birthday girl hand over part of their comp and share the £1500 out between the others? Confused

HelpmyDCbecomefinanciallysavvy · 21/08/2024 08:48

YellowDaffodilRedTulip · 21/08/2024 08:45

Free flights for their children plus £1000? That would be very cheeky.

I would see that any expenses the children incurred due to the delay were covered and then split it per adult.

Cheeky doesn’t come it to it! Only for morally dubious people to grab more money for themselves.

Law and who the compensation was paid to does. Children named and paid compensation by the airline. Children get compensation. Simple! Follow the law.

Ivehearditbothways · 21/08/2024 08:48

Likewhatever · 21/08/2024 08:47

I would include the birthday person in the payout because they were inconvenienced too. I would not include the children because their money will just go to the parents, making their split a more generous one.

You don’t trust parents to save for their children? Or spend the money on their children? You wouldn’t give birthday or Christmas money to children then?

Wow. You must have some very neglected children in your social circle and family if those children aren’t having money spent on them…

llamajohn · 21/08/2024 08:49

GoFigure235 · 21/08/2024 08:47

I would not be handing £500 plus to an under 12!

why not?

I'd give it to one of their parents in reality (eg, Mum Gets £2000) but wouldn't stop the family getting 4 x Per traveller comp amount.

GrapeNerve · 21/08/2024 08:50

Of course it should be split between everyone named on the claim. It’s nothing to do with who paid- it’s compensation for inconvenience.

The idea that you might make a claim in the name of the children then not pass the money onto them is appalling, akin the stealing from them. They have a legal right to compensation.

Memba · 21/08/2024 08:51

Here's another analogy...

If all 12 of you had been injured in an accident and were awarded compensation, would you split the children's share between the adults?

This is no different.

Legally the compensation belongs to the person who suffered loss or damge or, in this case, delay and inconvience.

Did you know that even a babe-in-arms who doesn't require a seat on an airline, is also entitled to the same amount of compensation as a paying adult in the event of delay?

The law might be a bit nuts but it is the law.

OneTC · 21/08/2024 08:51

I'd say no to the kids and yes to the birthday person.

middleofnowhere666 · 21/08/2024 08:52

llamajohn · 21/08/2024 08:26

Oh, so if your sister took your somewhere on holiday for your birthday and paid as a treat to you. . But the flights were delayed and they paid £100 per person. You spent money on things like food or whatever, you'd be TOTALLY FINE with your sister keeping the whole £200?

Yes 100% as I would have been grateful to of had a free holiday.

llamajohn · 21/08/2024 08:52

YellowDaffodilRedTulip · 21/08/2024 08:45

Free flights for their children plus £1000? That would be very cheeky.

I would see that any expenses the children incurred due to the delay were covered and then split it per adult.

the flights are free, they're "free" i.e. subsidised - all adults are paying a bit more to compensate for the kids.

So instead of paying £200 per passenger (kid or otherwise) the adults are paying £230 each.

BrownBirdWelcomesWhiteWave · 21/08/2024 08:53

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 20/08/2024 23:23

Isn't compensation for inconvenience though? Do the money should go to those inconvenienced. Like when I book a train through work and it gets cancelled and I end up at York station for 3 extra hours, I get that compensation they don't, because it's my time wasted

Do you have to make up the time lost?

If yes, it goes to you
If no, it should go to your company

Original question, to the payers

BIossomtoes · 21/08/2024 08:54

BrownBirdWelcomesWhiteWave · 21/08/2024 08:53

Do you have to make up the time lost?

If yes, it goes to you
If no, it should go to your company

Original question, to the payers

Another one who doesn’t understand the principle of compensation.

Positivenancy · 21/08/2024 08:57

Olanabunny · 20/08/2024 23:30

Booking was as follows

Jane & John

Dave & Sarah
Chloe and olivia- free children

Peter & Paul

Helen & Craig

Emma & Jack - one is birthday person

Compensation has been paid to lead booker at £6,240 - £520 per person.
Should this be distributed as such or as £693 per paying adult?

And what’s the difference between the price paid and the compensation?

2sisters · 21/08/2024 08:59

Is split it equally between all the adults including the holiday person. If they then want to share the money with their children that's up to them.

Ivehearditbothways · 21/08/2024 08:59

Positivenancy · 21/08/2024 08:57

And what’s the difference between the price paid and the compensation?

Why does that matter? They have absolutely nothing to do with one another.

Do you understand that anything other than splitting per person, including the children, would be fraud and theft?

SkeletonBatsflyatnight · 21/08/2024 09:00

You claimed per person inconvenienced, not per person who paid. Thus everyone, regardless of age or payment status gets their share.

Paying for the holiday and the compensation for being inconvenienced are not the same thing and need separating. My fil takes his entire extended family on holiday every year and pays for all flights/ferries etc. Any compensation for delays is given to each passenger.

BrownBirdWelcomesWhiteWave · 21/08/2024 09:00

BIossomtoes · 21/08/2024 08:54

Another one who doesn’t understand the principle of compensation.

So the company bought the ticket, the company lose time because the worker is late, so where is the company compensation?

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