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To expect more from my age gap partner

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Kiwibuffy · 20/08/2024 13:17

Hi, I'd love some advice on this situation as I'm not sure if I'm expecting too much. Sorry for length!

Background:
I've (32f) lived with my bf (52m) and his mum (87F) almost 3 years now. We have been together for 5 years.

His mum, sadly, has mid stage dementia. We are waiting on social service help and his sister has recently started helping more since I briefly moved out at the beginning of the year.

I moved in party due to rent increase and partly due to mental health issues.

BF and I met at work, he still works there, I've since moved jobs. I asked him out when I left that role. He told no one in that job that he had a girlfriend, until i forced him to tell his best friend at work last year. He still doesn't mention me at work "I will say I went for a walk with a woman" and has said "ok iill name you and they'll all talk about you" when I've brought this up.

AIBU to expect him admit to having a 5 year relationship, almost 3 of those years having a live in GF who helps care for his ill, elderly mother?

Helping his mum has improved my mood, he does a lot for me 'acts of service' wise. I am not close to my family at all due to violence. I do have 3 very close friends for support.

When I first moved in I was in the middle of a break from reality. This continued and Id often 'hear' him talking to other people. I recorded him a few times.

One Saturday I was due to meet friends but it was changed to a Sunday, I didn't let him know this. We had the day free from caring for his mum but he spent the day in bed tired. I recorded him that day and have a recording of him whispering "one more day x5..." "you've no idea" "remember when?...and we did anyway...well yeah, youve been warned" "be very good to yourself the whole day" and other things like that.

A week later his sister came over and said "you know when you think something is a sat but it's a sun" and looked at him.

I confronted him about this a week later and he said he didn't make a phone call. After hearing the recording he said he didn't remember having a phone call and wouldn't know why he would be whispering but he wouldn't be calling anyone. He said he forgets and thats all there is to be said on it.

I also walked in on him on a call saying "I love you more" then heard "did (my name just walk in)" from other side and he said yes and they continued a normal conversation about their mum. (They are both adopted from different families)

I confronted him about this and he had a shower, left his phone out whilst in the shower and came back out to show me the call log was from his sister and obviously I misheard something.

These are things I think I am willing to draw a line under.

I have asked for more physical affection and intimacy since the beginning of the relationship. We've always sat on septetate chairs or me on a bean bag and have had very little physical interaction. I've asked multiple times for more compliments as he will only say I look "well" or "good".

He states he says that because he's 52 and so wouldn't be saying anything else. Is this true of other 52 year old men?

He was alone for 15 years before me due to an abusive relationship but I know he showed and stated more affection in past relationships than he does with this one.

My body shape is not his preference but he will not admit this despite how open sexually I am. He's not mine either but I go more on vibes with people and would never make comments to make anyone feel less than of i did have particular preferences (unless as a joke but backed up with compliments)

We don't spend much time doing different activities together. He once told me he doesn't like to 'plan in advance' when asking about what to do on our next MiL free day. We used to forage a lot but recently when given the opportunity to go to a foraging event he said "I'd rather do the garden, I don't like walking about looking at things to eat". I've asked for more physical affection and again "I don't like".

Ive spent so much of this relationship fitting into his lifestyle and he hasnt tried to do the same for me.

I wrote him a letter recently and in it discussed how we hadn't had sex in over a year. He stated "sex is the furthest thing from my mind right now". When he was next on his laptip his previous tabs showed multiple porn sites. He apologised for lying and said it should be left at that because he didn't get "excited" and because I didn't pay a month's rent (v little amount of rent here, i was planning on moving out after the recording) awhile ago and he took my apology and didn't mention it again. I paid the money back but realised he was hurt due to previous relationships messing him up moneywise

He did recently suggest buying a sofa so we could hold hands sitting together sometimes at night (instead of across from each other) again this is something he's said no to before but feels/has basically lost me so is now trying.

I am currently off work ill and will be going half pay soon. I really need to work on my mental health and on paper this seems like a good environment but I feel I might have been deteriorating a little whilst I've been here (not all due to our relationship).

Rent is crazy at the moment, and I have got myself in debt/defaults due to stupid things over the past 2 years, so will find it hard to rent/buy for awhile.

Am I being unreasonable to expect more from him? I am being unreasonable to expect a 52 year old man to call me pretty at the very least?

I understand he is going through a lot. I do help a lot and try to help him. I do understand than most relationships are about companionship and we do get along well.

Any comments, questions, suggestions, advice etc welcome!

Tia!

OP posts:
MumHouseDilemma · 20/08/2024 13:29

There’s a lot here. But essentially:
you’ve asked him to meet your needs
he can’t/has not

Game over, surely?

Needless to say, recording someone is really unhealthy. For both of you.

LittleBirdd · 20/08/2024 13:30

This whole relationship sounds completely fucked up.

ComtesseDeSpair · 20/08/2024 13:31

This isn’t a happy or functioning relationship. You’re providing housework and elder care and he gets to have sex with a woman two decades his junior and get that ego boost. He isn’t interested in you as a partner or making you feel special - and bluntly, why would he be? He knows you aren’t going anywhere because you don’t have enough money and lack confidence, he doesn’t have to do much more than throw you some crumbs to keep you drudging on.

I appreciate this may sound brutal- but it’s what you need a good friend to knock into you, and it doesn’t seem like yours are doing that for you. Rent is expensive but if you are working then surely there are affordable lodger or house share arrangements? Have you looked at e.g. Spare Room? You usually won’t be credit checked or need to go through an agent who will reference.

Furrydogmum · 20/08/2024 13:32

Leave him. Romantic relationships are supposed to be enjoyable. You're young, get some therapy and then think about relationships.

pasturesgreen · 20/08/2024 13:33

Sorry to be blunt, OP, but the sooner you realise recording your partner's phone calls is no way to live, the better. Best case you're not compatible anymore, most likely worst case he's two-timing you and blatantly lying to your face, and he bagged hinself a nice live-in carer for his elderly mum to boot.
The way I see it, move out asap and start afresh!

Saltedbutter · 20/08/2024 13:34

I’m confused by a lot of your post so I can’t comment on most of it. The crux of it seems to be you are both unhappy and incompatible. I’d personally move on.

Shallysally · 20/08/2024 13:39

To answer one of your questions OP, no, you are not expecting too much from him.

He is showing you who he is. He won’t change because you have asked him to.

You don’t talk about your feelings towards one another. Are you in love with him, and vice versa?

Your explanation of the relationship is wholly negative. You are young, way too young to be stuck in a relationship with this man.

Resentment (yours) will build, your sense of wellbeing will be eroded and it will be hard to come back from this state of mind and future relationships will be affected.

You need to look into some therapy and focus on yourself and why you have such low expectations and are willing to accept such low effort in relationships.

You are worth so much more.

AbigailisPartiedOut · 20/08/2024 13:41

Leave. You appear to be an unpaid live in carer for the elderly mother of a man who doesnt love you. This is no way to live.

MelodyMalone · 20/08/2024 13:44

Are you getting anything good out of the relationship at all - any fun or happiness or support or comfort? If not (and it doesn't sound like you are), it may be time to call it a day.

I don't understand what you're saying about the sister thing and the weekend thing, but none of it sounds good and all of it sounds destructive to your happiness and self-esteem.

BlackShuck3 · 20/08/2024 13:47

OP
This man is exploiting you, you should leave.

HighBuddha · 20/08/2024 14:10

You deserve better than this. I wouldn’t waste any more energy trying to get more from
him, he won’t give it to you.

Kiwibuffy · 20/08/2024 14:15

Thanks for the advice

We both love each other and get along really well as people. I love his mum and like the comforting family feel of living here.

He also does a lot of physical things to help me out.

We enjoy each others company when we have a chance to.

The recordings were taken years ago and I haven't recorded anything since. I was coming out of a break from reality and wanted to make sure I wasn't hearing things - I realise how self destructive this was.

We don't have sex or really any physical intimacy (a kiss every so often). He says recently that it's because I have not been receptive to it. This is partly due to asking for years and also due to mental health deteriorating badly in the past month due to work and previous trauma issues. I have hardly been able to leave the house alone in the past few weeks.

I am currently seeing a therapist (and have done in the past) we're only on week 2 so hopefully that will help. I'm starting back on low dose medication to see if that will help for the time being but feel I need therapy for this. I am doing work outside of therapy myself.

Am I maybe blowing something helpful up because of my self esteem and because everything else in my life dissolved recently?

OP posts:
Dweetfidilove · 20/08/2024 14:26

Oh sweetheart, I hope this round of therapy and medication is successful, as this is not a healthy place for you.

Can you access supported housing to get out of this family? They may not be violent, but they are using you and by the sound of it are barely nice to you.

Normallynumb · 20/08/2024 14:30

Sorry, he won't give you what you want
You've made it clear to him and after 5 years, and at 52 This is him
He sounds like a commitment phobe
I hate to say this but maybe he wants your help with his DM?
He hasn't mentioned you to colleagues in 5 years, no sex but uses porn?
I'm 59 and even I would wantmore than that
Finish it and find someone who appreciates you and your qualities.

LadyDanburysHat · 20/08/2024 14:33

LittleBirdd · 20/08/2024 13:30

This whole relationship sounds completely fucked up.

This nails it. You are young with your whole life ahead of you. What has happened in your life to think this is what you need?

HighBuddha · 20/08/2024 14:35

Besides everything else, at a minimum I wouldn’t be with someone who won’t acknowledge me as their partner to others. That’s really horrible.

Lougle · 20/08/2024 14:35

My worry is that when you finally realise that you are wasting your time in this relationship, you will have wasted your best years. There is very little that is positive that I can see.

Carebearsonmybed · 20/08/2024 14:37

This isnt a relationship he's using you for free care.

Why are you even there?

Move out and move on with your life!

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 20/08/2024 14:38

He's 52.
What you've got with him is all you'll ever have with him.

I agree with pp that this whole thing is fucked up.

I suspect you are little more than a live in carer and you simply don't realise it.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 20/08/2024 14:42

LittleBirdd · 20/08/2024 13:30

This whole relationship sounds completely fucked up.

^^ This

Your relationship sounds like the start of a horror movie.

KreedKafer · 20/08/2024 14:46

Everything about this whole relationship is weird and dysfunctional, on both sides.

You moved in with him 'due to rent increase and mental health issues' and you were 'having a break from reality' and you record him making phone calls to his sister and talking to himself. That isn't remotely normal or OK. If you were out of touch with reality when you moved in, you must have been seriously mentally ill. And you've apparently got yourself into loads of debt now?

He seems to feel genuinely uncomfortable with the idea that you're in a relationship, to the point where he won't tell people and doesn't want sex with you. But you are helping him care for his elderly mother and he doesn't know how to deal with you (or with your mental illness) so he's continuing to have you living there.

Neither of you actually seem to love each other in any normal manner, and frankly the entire dynamic is just disturbing. A lot of what you've written in your OP doesn't even seem to make any sense.

KreedKafer · 20/08/2024 14:50

We both love each other and get along really well as people. I love his mum and like the comforting family feel of living here.

Again, that doesn't feel like a very healthy reason to be in a relationship with someone. You're trying to create a feeling of comfort and security and family that you didn't have when you were a child. But you are not a child. This man is supposed to be your partner, not your father.

Titsonboard · 20/08/2024 14:52

Apart from a roof over your head what is there left in this relationship for you, the problem is not the age gap. Would looking for another live.in caring position ( if you find enjoyment in that) be a possible way out of this mucked up dynamic? I’m not an expert but I wonder if being away from this situation would help your mental health?

Kiwibuffy · 20/08/2024 14:54

I don't think live in caring would be for me, I think I only enjoy caring for this lady due to the situation. Its something to look into though. Thank you!

OP posts:
Bogasphodel · 20/08/2024 15:00

Hi, I think you’re avoiding “hearing” what everyone here is saying. That whole situation doesn’t sound like a relationship and you should split up. 52 is not that old and is no excuse for his behaviour.

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