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To think manifesting works?

116 replies

itsatin · 19/08/2024 20:09

That's it really..
I'm reading a lot about it and I'm hoping it does work although I'm not wholly sure how to go about it for effectiveness.

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Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 19/08/2024 20:26

And to state the bleeding fucking obvious, in case no one else has yet, it's the rich/privileged that have the confidence behind them or financial backing to get what they want in life anyway, that are the type to promote this shit. Spoiler: you didn't wish your luxurious life into existence you just have a rich mum and dad.

ouch321 · 19/08/2024 20:28

It's bollocks for the gullible I'm afraid.

PashaMinaMio · 19/08/2024 20:29

Maplesy · 19/08/2024 20:14

I think it does in as much as someone who is 'manifesting' something often spends time and energy thinking about it, and this includes pondering how to get there. Having the mindset of I'm going to do this rather than I can never ever achieve that also helps in having the confidence in taking up opportunities etc.i don't believe starting at an image of what you want on a piece of paper magically leads to anything, but yes I do think someone focusing energy on thinking about achieving something helps.

Yes l definitely believe in manifesting,

I was longing for something to come about. It was 45 years overdue.
Suddenly it happened after much manifesting usually just before sleep.
I did nothing but the event came to me in a most obscure way.
Happy days.

cariadlet · 19/08/2024 20:30

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 19/08/2024 20:22

It depends. Visualising you're going to win the race you're preparing for, or imagining you've got the job when you're going for interview - yes that works. Visualising a happy life when you have anything but, and trusting in the universe to provide (?!) Not so much.

That reminds me that I listened to an episode of a psychology podcast that was all about common myths. It included visualisation/manifesting. It was probably the podcast that Professor Richard Wiseman does.

Visualising the end goal eg winning a race, getting the job you wanted, getting great exam results etc actually makes you less likely to achieve that goal.

But if you think of your goal and then visualise the steps that you need to carry out in order to achieve that goal, then that can be a successful strategy.

Ponoka7 · 19/08/2024 20:35

Absolutely, the first nations people, those taken on slave ships, anyone who collectively went through a famine etc just didn't want life enough, if only they'd tried harder. Perhaps send some books about this to the suffering millions of people. Congratulations, you've cured infertility. Strange how these things are weighted towards the privileged to start with.
Realistic goal setting, planning, focus and putting the work in, helps make things happen. Re relationships, if you open yourself up to the idea, then it's more likely to happen. Some get things through luck.

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 19/08/2024 20:36

cariadlet · 19/08/2024 20:30

That reminds me that I listened to an episode of a psychology podcast that was all about common myths. It included visualisation/manifesting. It was probably the podcast that Professor Richard Wiseman does.

Visualising the end goal eg winning a race, getting the job you wanted, getting great exam results etc actually makes you less likely to achieve that goal.

But if you think of your goal and then visualise the steps that you need to carry out in order to achieve that goal, then that can be a successful strategy.

That's very cool! How interesting that just focusing on the end result actually doesn't get you a win necessarily. It makes more sense that you'd need to break it down, which is really what you'd do if you weren't visualising. More like preparing in small stages.

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 19/08/2024 20:38

Ponoka7 · 19/08/2024 20:35

Absolutely, the first nations people, those taken on slave ships, anyone who collectively went through a famine etc just didn't want life enough, if only they'd tried harder. Perhaps send some books about this to the suffering millions of people. Congratulations, you've cured infertility. Strange how these things are weighted towards the privileged to start with.
Realistic goal setting, planning, focus and putting the work in, helps make things happen. Re relationships, if you open yourself up to the idea, then it's more likely to happen. Some get things through luck.

I could not agree with you more @Ponoka7 . Those poor people in Gaza are clearly not manifesting hard enough.

jusqualafin · 19/08/2024 20:41

How does it work? You decide you want to manifest something (something that's actually possible/ achievable) and if it ends up happening, you manifested it and if it doesn't, you didn't believe in it hard enough/ weren't positive enough?

saidthebellsofstclements · 19/08/2024 20:41

Yes.. I'm going to see it as a positive that I've seen this post. I've been working on something for a couple of weeks now, I can not wait for it to materialise!

SilverBranchGoldenPears · 19/08/2024 20:58

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 19/08/2024 20:26

And to state the bleeding fucking obvious, in case no one else has yet, it's the rich/privileged that have the confidence behind them or financial backing to get what they want in life anyway, that are the type to promote this shit. Spoiler: you didn't wish your luxurious life into existence you just have a rich mum and dad.

Well it all worked for me.
i am in no way a woo person but id had enough and just went for life instead of maintaining my negative mindset.

i got a new job. New life. Went from 19k job in a terrible flat to 8 years later house owning and 6 figure salary. New life, country and man 😀

and nothing to do with my narc parents who I’m NC with.

aeon418 · 19/08/2024 21:22

One desires things; learns how to manifest them by becoming more accepting of their desires, hopeful about their outcomes and grateful for what they have.

Then one realizes that what really makes them happy is to be accepting, hopeful and grateful. And that’s the magic of it.

Blackcats7 · 19/08/2024 21:57

Christ on a bike. Really???

DinnerOnTheGrass · 19/08/2024 22:03

ouch321 · 19/08/2024 20:28

It's bollocks for the gullible I'm afraid.

This.

Wombbaalaa · 19/08/2024 22:14

@PashaMinaMio intriguing , i’d love to hear the story if it’s one you don’t mind sharing?

DorisDoesDoncaster · 19/08/2024 22:25

Lmnop22 · 19/08/2024 20:10

I think good things happen to positive people who aren’t anxious and worrying about things not working out. So, to that extent, it works for sure!

I needed to hear this - thank you!

KrisAkabusi · 19/08/2024 22:29

Thinking positively to help manifest carefully crafted personal goals is not in any remote sense "dangerous".

And what if it doesn't happen? Can you not see how a vulnerable person could think "I'm not doing this hard enough, I can't even do this right" and end up worse off?

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 19/08/2024 22:34

I think it can work in a self-fulfilling prophecy kind of way.

So someone who believes in it and wants, say, a new job or a promotion, will be more on the look out for opportunities, will maybe be more likely to go for those opportunities if they believe that it's "meant to be", will be more confident in an interview etc.

KimKardashiansLostEarring · 19/08/2024 22:40

I believe I’ve had good thing happen to me when I’ve really focussed on them and had a good positive vibe which I put out into the world and has come back to me. But I’m not sure I can 100% get on board with manifesting…… I couldn’t bring myself to explain manifesting to a homeless person or a dying child for example.

m00ngirl · 19/08/2024 23:31

KrisAkabusi · 19/08/2024 22:29

Thinking positively to help manifest carefully crafted personal goals is not in any remote sense "dangerous".

And what if it doesn't happen? Can you not see how a vulnerable person could think "I'm not doing this hard enough, I can't even do this right" and end up worse off?

Yes I can see that but someone who practices thinking positively is less likely than someone who doesn't to be vulnerable to this kind of negative thinking.

Sometimes the reality is that, yes, we're not working hard enough towards our goals. Or, we've set the wrong goals for ourselves.

Sometimes we work our arses off for something and it's still not happening. But by thinking positively about it, visualising the steps towards it and visualising achieving the outcomes, you can in most circumstances get closer to what you want out of life than those who don't use their mental energy in this way.

JudyJudeplusOne · 19/08/2024 23:34

m00ngirl · 19/08/2024 20:15

I think it does, by directing/focusing your thoughts you can direct/focus your energy to the right places. The literature that describes it as a kind of sorcery annoys me, I think it's just psychology.

A lot of people drift through life not even knowing what they truly want. Once you establish that at a deep level, and you know what you want and why, and the. focus your attention on it in a positive way, you start consciously and subconsciously directing your energy and making decisions towards the places that help to achieve your goals. I think it's that simple.

It has worked a lot for me. I set my intentions and have achieved a lot against the odds. I'm always astonished when I look back and think how unlikely it was that I would actually achieve what I did. I use visualisation and I know it consciously and subconsciously sets me in the right direction.

This, in a nutshell, is manifestation.

User623 · 19/08/2024 23:34

m00ngirl · 19/08/2024 23:31

Yes I can see that but someone who practices thinking positively is less likely than someone who doesn't to be vulnerable to this kind of negative thinking.

Sometimes the reality is that, yes, we're not working hard enough towards our goals. Or, we've set the wrong goals for ourselves.

Sometimes we work our arses off for something and it's still not happening. But by thinking positively about it, visualising the steps towards it and visualising achieving the outcomes, you can in most circumstances get closer to what you want out of life than those who don't use their mental energy in this way.

It's not negative thinking. Can you not see how being told to "focus on your goals" can turn into obsessional and compulsive thought patterns? That if you aren't achieving your goals the you're not manifesting hard enough? It you tell a vulnerable person they can manifest ANYTHING this can create delusional beliefs and make someone spiral. It is dangerous.

Turophilic · 19/08/2024 23:42

I put in the same bin as thinking having a positive attitude cured someone’s cancer. Does it bollocks. The corollary is blaming people for not wanting it enough 🙄

A negative attitude can have negative impacts, but that’s not the same thing.

Being alert to opportunities helps, but that’s not the same as manifesting either.

m00ngirl · 19/08/2024 23:45

@User623 I think you're viewing "manifesting" as sorcery / magical thinking - that any quality of simple thinking of any goal equals success. Which is perhaps as useful as saying "abracadabra". I'm talking about the process of positive goal and intention-setting, which also comes with reflection, visualisation, planning and action, to help manifest your life goals, which is often referred to as "manifestation". There's lots you can read about different processes people use for it.

JMSA · 19/08/2024 23:46

Positive thinking, yes. Well, to an extent. Good stuff never seems to happen to me when I'm feeling moody or low. It's like I have to give out good vibes to attract it back, if that makes sense.
Manifestation, I don't think I believe in that, same as I don't believe in karma.

User623 · 19/08/2024 23:49

m00ngirl · 19/08/2024 23:45

@User623 I think you're viewing "manifesting" as sorcery / magical thinking - that any quality of simple thinking of any goal equals success. Which is perhaps as useful as saying "abracadabra". I'm talking about the process of positive goal and intention-setting, which also comes with reflection, visualisation, planning and action, to help manifest your life goals, which is often referred to as "manifestation". There's lots you can read about different processes people use for it.

Not in the slightest. I know the good meaning behind it but I am also not so stupid that I'm blind to the harm misinformation and misunderstanding could cause. A bad practitioner of it is essentially telling someone to navel gaze and obsess.