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Aunt won't refund money

180 replies

Casals07 · 19/08/2024 14:08

Aunt has a home abroad that myself, DH and kids go to every year. We go in August as it's too hot for Aunt to go. I pay to stay there and always take care of the place and top everything up before I leave. The house is now 20 years old and is definitely showing signs of wear and tear. Nothing has been replaced. This year I arrived to find black mould in the bedrooms, job had been started but won't be finished until November. My Aunt never informed me of this. My DD has now got pneumonia and we have had to move out at a considerable expense. My Aunt has refused to return any of my text messages. My DH rang her and asked for the money back we paid as the house is not habitable. She has point blank refused.

Aunt won't refund money
Aunt won't refund money
OP posts:
CoastalCalm · 19/08/2024 14:37

Can you claim on holiday insurance ?

Casals07 · 19/08/2024 14:37

EveryKneeShallBow · 19/08/2024 14:35

Do you have travel insurance?

For flights yes, not for the house as its a private rental.

OP posts:
piccolorhinoceros · 19/08/2024 14:37

What is wrong with people?! It doesn't matter what OP paid or how well off her aunt is, what sort of person lets someone travel to accommodation in that state? Even if OP had been staying for free the aunt would be massively out of order. Of course you should get the money back, but she probably doesn't legally have to. Lesson learned, stay elsewhere in future.

ScholesPanda · 19/08/2024 14:39

See a solicitor if it's a substantial amount. The opinions on here will be just that.

Either way, never rent off her again.

Casals07 · 19/08/2024 14:41

@piccolorhinoceros , I agree and thank you. Some posters seem to think that if I've paid slightly less than the going rate that I should put up and shut up.

OP posts:
Tiswa · 19/08/2024 14:45

Sometimes mumsnet makes no sense! That mould is awful how many of us would if we have rented that as holiday accommodation wouldn’t want to leave and find somewhere else and ask for money back

and mould does cause respiratory issues

Bettysnow · 19/08/2024 14:46

Awful behaviour especially from a family member.
She should have been mortified and immediately sent you your money back.
Hope your daughter gets well soon

SaintHonoria · 19/08/2024 14:47

How long were you there?

You are responsible for your child's welfare and should have left immediately if you feared health problems due to it being uninhabitable.

SeatonCarew · 19/08/2024 14:50

DadJoke · 19/08/2024 14:30

it’s bad behaviour, but you really can’t force her to pay you without taking her to a small claims court, which does not seem like a great idea.

On the contrary, I think it's a great idea and came on here to say so. Concentrate her mind a little bit.

WhereDoWeGoFromHereBill · 19/08/2024 14:50

Singleandproud · 19/08/2024 14:11

Why not spray with mould remover and limit the time in that room/cover it with something like cling film taped to the wall. I doubt DDs pneumonia is directly related to that so quickly she must have been ill before hand.

Instead of moving out you could have flown home you had other options. With no contract a refund isn't going to happen unless it's from the good of her heart which doesn't sound like it will particularly with work required.

Presumably you've been enjoying extended holidays at below rate prices all this time, perhaps see it as an investment for future holidays.

Edited

Would YOU be happy to spend time on your holiday going and buying mould spray, spraying and washing walls and ceilings down, and looking after a child so sick they had to go to the hospital? Plus then at your own expense looking for another place to stay?

Dont bother answering - any normal person would say "NO!"

Oh, of course, to you that is all fine if you got a slight reduction on the rent 🙄

(Edit - just saw you had the priceless idea of covering it with clingfilm too 😂gets better and better 😂)

@Casals07 some posters just want to be awkward, of course she should give you your money back. And pay for any out of pocket expenses you may have if she definitely KNEW about the mould.

JLM1981 · 19/08/2024 14:50

piccolorhinoceros · 19/08/2024 14:37

What is wrong with people?! It doesn't matter what OP paid or how well off her aunt is, what sort of person lets someone travel to accommodation in that state? Even if OP had been staying for free the aunt would be massively out of order. Of course you should get the money back, but she probably doesn't legally have to. Lesson learned, stay elsewhere in future.

This.

BobbyBiscuits · 19/08/2024 14:51

@Casals07 god that's horrible then. If it was a normal rental then you'd be refunded. So she definitely should. If it was really bad and she knew about it.

dapsnotplimsolls · 19/08/2024 14:54

It doesn't sound like she'll give you a refund unless you go to a small claims court. Make sure all the other relatives who go are aware - she'll miss the money from all of you if you all stop going.

Thereislightattheendofthetunnel · 19/08/2024 14:58

she knew the house was in that state and didn’t mention it to you when you paid for the rental. She is a CF of the highest order.

Singleandproud · 19/08/2024 15:01

@WhereDoWeGoFromHereBill no of course not, however my point was they had options. And yes, those are the actions I'd take if I found myself in a similar situation or I would fly home because I wouldn't be able to afford alternative accomodation

Staying with family with no formal arrangements is always going to be risky. If it was a hotel you would go to reception, request a move and give them a shoddy review on TripAdvisor you can't do that when renting from family.

Most people living in social housing have to regularly deal with black mould, most don't end up in hospital with fungal pneumonia after a week or so though although it does cause and exacerbate respiratory issues.

Doteycat · 19/08/2024 15:03

Hoppinggreen · 19/08/2024 14:11

Not sure you get pneumonia from mould but anyway.
Of course she should have told you so you had the choice to go or not but as its a family arrangement (even paid) I am assuming no contract so no obligation to refund you.
Would be nice if she did but as she is refusing there isn't a lot you can do

Jesus wept
Do people really bloody live like this?
the aunt is a total disgrace, yes she should refund your money and yes you can get pneumonia from black mould, Black mould has been the cause of children getting severely ill and dying.
And yes, the aunt is a CF.
People being OH SO WOKE here make me ill, never mind black mould.
She should give you your money back, its called not being a cunt.

BatshitIsTheOnlyExplanation · 19/08/2024 15:04

What was it like last year?

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 19/08/2024 15:04

"The one year it isn’t perfect!"

I can't believe the comments on this thread. The pictures to see that its not in rentable condition.
The hospital confirmed it has contributed to DD's illness
They've had to move out as because of this and the smell.

The Aunt knew perfectly well this was the case, but took the money and didn't say anything. No sympathy for the fact that she has to get builders in to fix it. All building owners have to pay to maintain their properties.

It she sounds well off enough to refund them for less than 2 weeks rent, so they can pay for alternative accomodation.

OP your Aunt is a miserable CF. She took the money under false pretences and doesn't seem at all peturbed that your DD was hospitalised.
I hope your DD is on the mend and that you can enjoy the rest of the holiday.

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 19/08/2024 15:07

Go to your travel insurance

Stath · 19/08/2024 15:08

Is she your mum or dad’s sister?

What have they said about her vile behaviour and have they contacted her? I know I’d be pulling up my sibling if they were as cunty as this to my child and grandchild

She’s obviously not arsed about your DD’s health or you, as a family at all so I wouldn’t be arsed about any fallout taking her to small claims court or whatever.

Bet she’s one of those who’s wealthy but also tighter than a duck’s arse who doesn’t mind who she fucks over

Hopr your child is on the mend

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 19/08/2024 15:09

I wonder what the local state landlord/rental regulations are like? Might be worth looking those up and seeing if its against the regs to knowingly let unihabitable properties out to tourists? which is effectively what she's done. There must be some authority that deals with such things. Black mould is a serious recognised issue in rentals.

betterangels · 19/08/2024 15:09

Well, she's a grifter. Imagine treating family like that.

Twiglets1 · 19/08/2024 15:09

That’s shocking that she would expect family members to pay to live in rooms in that state. I would only have stayed one night and asked for my money back for the rest of the holiday. I hope your daughter is ok.

If she refuses I guess that’s a relationship ruined over her financial greed.

betterangels · 19/08/2024 15:10

Doteycat · 19/08/2024 15:03

Jesus wept
Do people really bloody live like this?
the aunt is a total disgrace, yes she should refund your money and yes you can get pneumonia from black mould, Black mould has been the cause of children getting severely ill and dying.
And yes, the aunt is a CF.
People being OH SO WOKE here make me ill, never mind black mould.
She should give you your money back, its called not being a cunt.

All of this.

Pomegranatecarnage · 19/08/2024 15:11

YANBU, and your aunt should refund you the entire amount, I’d be mortified if my great niece had been made ill by my failure to maintain a property.

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