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To want to shout this tip for anxiety/mental health from the rooftops?

81 replies

BornToBeStyled · 16/08/2024 17:19

Cold showers. Within a lifetime of problematic anxiety, I can't believe it's taken me this long (to my mid 40s) to discover them. Actual game changer.

If you have trouble with anxiety and panic, and haven't already tried cold showers, try them. A cold shower can bring me back from crisis point to feeling quite fine in about 2 minutes, sometimes. The effects can last for hours. And when they wear off... you can have another.

AIBU to think GPs should give this as an intervention before drugs?!

OP posts:
SilverTotoro · 16/08/2024 20:19

Thank you for sharing OP I’m going to try this!

Begsthequestion · 16/08/2024 20:23

Serencwtch · 16/08/2024 19:33

To be fair any old placebo helps chronic fatigue & mild anxiety they are part & parcel of normal life rather than a genuine illness.

I'll keep the meds for my genuine mental illness (schizo affective) thanks

Who's "arrogant and patronising" now?

aibutohavethisusername · 16/08/2024 20:24

Cold water swims work great too.

I8toys · 16/08/2024 20:48

This is really interesting thank you. I'll give anything a go

OldCrocks · 16/08/2024 20:56

Oh gosh, be careful, people. Cold shock response is a genuine and unpredictable thing. My fit and well friend went wild swimming thinking it would be good for her and ended up having a hypertensive emergency and being airlifted to hospital. Start with the frozen peas and work your way up if you must.

ehb102 · 16/08/2024 21:13

You can build up a tolerance to cold water quite quickly. I have a warm shower but will then turn the heat down to stimulate my lymphatics and wake me up. I've been a cold pool twice in two days and feel awesome, but I put that down to lymphatic stimulation. Maybe it's vagus nerve too, don't know. If anyone is thinking of trying it just start with a rinse of cooler water. You can turn it down next time or when you acclimatise. I used to take five minutes to get into the lake.

VelvetUndergrounds · 16/08/2024 21:22

BornToBeStyled · 16/08/2024 17:19

Cold showers. Within a lifetime of problematic anxiety, I can't believe it's taken me this long (to my mid 40s) to discover them. Actual game changer.

If you have trouble with anxiety and panic, and haven't already tried cold showers, try them. A cold shower can bring me back from crisis point to feeling quite fine in about 2 minutes, sometimes. The effects can last for hours. And when they wear off... you can have another.

AIBU to think GPs should give this as an intervention before drugs?!

Is this whilst you're having an anxiety attack / feeling anxious - or just to prevent it?

xyz111 · 16/08/2024 21:23

I do this in the middle of the night if I don't feel well, but just run my wrists under the cold tap. Often helps!

XenoBitch · 16/08/2024 21:25

ReadWithScepticism · 16/08/2024 19:16

Great that you found it helpful, but it is important not to overstate these things. Different things help different people, and it doesn't do anyone any favours to overplay this as some kind of magic bullet. In fact it is pretty infuriating, on a par with "this one simple trick that doctors don't want you to know about". And pretty insulting too.
Don't you think that if it were really that simple, GPs would be pushing cold showers before anti-depressants?

It is not in place of anti-depressants at all, and no one here is claiming it is.

It is something that is fast acting to get someone out of distress/intense anxiety in that moment.

XenoBitch · 16/08/2024 21:29

SarahWren · 16/08/2024 18:44

There's enough evidence that antidepressants are effective for them to be prescribed to patients, not true for cold water.

Tipp is part of DBT which was developed for a specific purpose. A GP isn't going to suggest techniques like that to patients with mild to moderate general anxiety.

DBT is a therapy for a specific condition, but all of it is useful to everyone else too.

I have seen TIPP recommended outside of DBT, and used for general anxiety, panic attacks etc. I was introduced to it via DBT, but other people may have found out about it elsewhere.

Ghosttofu99 · 16/08/2024 21:31

Id hope they would suggest counselling or CBT before or alongside antidepressants but the waiting lists are often so long that and people usually only ask for help when they really need it and can’t really wait any longer.

There is enough stigma and shame put on people for needing medication to help with mental health problems already so while it might be a helpful tip to try alongside a range of other techniques to help maintain good mental health once someone has received treatment and are in a better place, I don’t feel it’s helpful to suggest someone in mental health crisis (anxiety is often fobbed off as non serious) should be ‘prescribed’ a cold shower a head of medication unless some clinical evidence is going to be presented as to its efficacy for a wide group of patients.

It it was a physical condition I doubt people would say have you tried a cold shower instead of taking paracetamol.

Piper1983 · 16/08/2024 21:32

Christ alive, arrogant and patronising?
Bit much!

nameeCha · 16/08/2024 21:36

Thank you for this! Will try tomorrow. I get very anxious and I’m trying to find more natural cures.

Imscaredxpanicattack · 16/08/2024 21:37

Thank you for posting this OP. I'm off to try this as I've just had a panic attack and cannot find anything to help calm me down.

PrincessSakura · 16/08/2024 21:37

I’ve heard lots of positives about cold water baths, shower etc but I hate being cold, it causes physical pain so I can’t bring myself to do it!

Nextdoor55 · 16/08/2024 21:40

Wait. Didn't they do this in Bedlam in the 19th century? Cold showers & floggings wasn't it.
If it works though, good shout

zeddybrek · 16/08/2024 21:46

Thank you for sharing this OP. I stopped open water swimming which I started during COVID and have stopped for about a year and feel meh most days. I totally forgot how invigorating cold water is. I'm on a natural high all day when I do swim outdoors. Thanks to peri menopause brain fog, I forget what helps me and this has promoted me. Great to share tips like these and why I'm grateful for Mumsnet in general.

5475878237NC · 16/08/2024 21:51

SarahWren · 16/08/2024 18:33

I'm really happy for you that you've found something that works for you but YABU about doctors recommending it to patients. Hydrotherapy was a popular treatment for psychiatric disorders from the early twentieth century til about the 1950s. They don't do it anymore for good reasons, mainly there's no actual evidence for how/ why it's effective on some people and also, it doesn't have the same effect on everyone.

Most of the hydro research was relation to hot water not cold. Cold water is a totally different (cold) kettle of fish.

Womblesgash · 16/08/2024 21:51

Cold showers really do help. Those who haven’t tried to, just start by turning the shower to cold at the end for 5 seconds and build up. The longer you are in it the easier it becomes I find and controlling the breath is key. It’s feels addictive and like a challenge to keep doing it. If I don’t do mine or miss a few days, I can really tell as I’m more irritated by stuff. As well as the mental health aspect, it improves your immunity and energy too.

Maria1979 · 16/08/2024 21:54

BornToBeStyled · 16/08/2024 17:19

Cold showers. Within a lifetime of problematic anxiety, I can't believe it's taken me this long (to my mid 40s) to discover them. Actual game changer.

If you have trouble with anxiety and panic, and haven't already tried cold showers, try them. A cold shower can bring me back from crisis point to feeling quite fine in about 2 minutes, sometimes. The effects can last for hours. And when they wear off... you can have another.

AIBU to think GPs should give this as an intervention before drugs?!

I'm glad it helps you OP. It has never done anything for me but I like waking up to a cold shower. I would say the quite opposite works for me: heat. Sauna is the best but at home a hot shower to calm down the ache in the shoulders (from being to tense) or hot cushion. To each their own.

XenoBitch · 16/08/2024 21:55

zeddybrek · 16/08/2024 21:46

Thank you for sharing this OP. I stopped open water swimming which I started during COVID and have stopped for about a year and feel meh most days. I totally forgot how invigorating cold water is. I'm on a natural high all day when I do swim outdoors. Thanks to peri menopause brain fog, I forget what helps me and this has promoted me. Great to share tips like these and why I'm grateful for Mumsnet in general.

I know someone who has had months off work due to anxiety issues, and she has taken up open water swimming too and has found it so helpful. She has said about a high too.
She also does ice baths (so sitting in a barrel of ice and water), and has built up to quite a time in there.

AugustAlready · 17/08/2024 09:43

Serencwtch · 16/08/2024 19:33

To be fair any old placebo helps chronic fatigue & mild anxiety they are part & parcel of normal life rather than a genuine illness.

I'll keep the meds for my genuine mental illness (schizo affective) thanks

@Serencwtch

oooh your illness is real & others aren't. How rude. When you've qualified medically do let us know.

Do what you want with your illness & let others support each other with things that help them.

Christmasiscomingpanic · 17/08/2024 09:44

"drowning" has a similar effect - plunge your face into a sink of cold water. You basically want to stop you brain thinking and force it into survival mode, so anything safe that will do that will work.

AugustAlready · 17/08/2024 09:47

Ghosttofu99 · 16/08/2024 21:31

Id hope they would suggest counselling or CBT before or alongside antidepressants but the waiting lists are often so long that and people usually only ask for help when they really need it and can’t really wait any longer.

There is enough stigma and shame put on people for needing medication to help with mental health problems already so while it might be a helpful tip to try alongside a range of other techniques to help maintain good mental health once someone has received treatment and are in a better place, I don’t feel it’s helpful to suggest someone in mental health crisis (anxiety is often fobbed off as non serious) should be ‘prescribed’ a cold shower a head of medication unless some clinical evidence is going to be presented as to its efficacy for a wide group of patients.

It it was a physical condition I doubt people would say have you tried a cold shower instead of taking paracetamol.

@Ghosttofu99

all different things ARE suggested for physical pain, stretches, targeted exercises, phyio, swimming, different types of eating, meditation, yoga..

Mammma91 · 17/08/2024 09:48

Cold water therapy works like a dream for me. I love it! I done it a lot with morning sickness - i hate being sick and it sort of staved off the nausea (even for a few seconds!).