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Phoning in sick on Christmas Day?

343 replies

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:06

I work as a receptionist in a hotel
I have been told as the newest member of the team I will be working Christmas Day months in advance.
It's 11am -11 pm shift and the same Christmas Eve (my birthday)
It's minimum wage and we won't get paid extra.
My dad is 87 and isn't in the best health and I'm his only family
I'm really scared that this might be his last Christmas and I'm wasting it at work for a company who doesn't care
I asked to swap and was told no
I asked if anyone else wanted to work was told no

Aibu to phone in sick?
Il just add I'm not workshy
I never ring in sick

OP posts:
CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 15/08/2024 19:21

YABU but clearly you don’t think so.

It is rubbish but if you work in many different jobs including hospitality then chances are you will work on Christmas Day. And unfortunately it’s often the case that the newest person draws the short straw.

I’ve worked several Christmas Days, so has my dad. He’s a single parent and yes it’s rubbish but it is what it is. We have just celebrated on whatever the closest available day is.

You need to look for a different job and tell them you have holiday plans on Christmas Day. If you pull a sickie you’ll likely need a new job anyway as you could well be fired.

BibbleandSqwauk · 15/08/2024 19:33

You and your dad are both grown ups. It's an arbitrary date. Do Christmas on Boxing Day or look for another job. You've had 12 pages of people basically telling you that.

Willyoujustbequiet · 15/08/2024 19:35

I wouldn't do it but I'd be changing jobs rather than dropping a colleague in it.

KaySam · 16/08/2024 07:10

There is plenty of time to find another job,maybe in retail as Christmas vacancies will be starting soon,but make sure you don’t have to work over Christmas.

you’d be out of order to ring in sick Christmas Day and be so hard faced to go back in afterwards as though nothing happened.

if you didn’t want to work during public holidays then you should have thought about that before taking the job.

mrshoho · 16/08/2024 09:01

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:38

Also the hotel isn't opening out of charity
It's x4 the normal price of a room
Charging £130 pp for a glorified Sunday dinner
Let's not pretend the hotel is opening out of the goodness of their heart
They up the prices yet don't up the staffs wages for this day

This establishment is charging premium rates for Christmas as you would expect. But I thought the extortionate prices to stay in a hotel or eat in a restaurant over Christmas would be partly necessary to cover the premium wages the would have to pay. This company appears to want its cake and eat it. Op I know it's not just the money and you are right to want to prioritise your special time with your Dad. I'd leave there as soon as you can. I don't know what area you're in but hopefully there's plenty more jobs around that won't be making such demands.

Catsbreakfast · 16/08/2024 09:04

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:10

Also I took the hotel job because I needed a job and money
It wasn't my first choice
What about if I was sick ?

You’re not sick though, no one will believe you’re sick and this is what you have to deal with taking shift work. Grow the hell up.

ImAFemaleVersionOfRoyKeane · 16/08/2024 10:17

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:15

@ByCupidStunt if I worked for the nhs that is different ,this is hotel reception
Who choose to open Christmas Day out of sheer greed

They open Christmas Day so people can travel and visit their families for Christmas!

Truetoself · 16/08/2024 10:26

OP I fully understand you not wanting to work on Christmas Day. However you have taken on this role which requires you to work on that day. It is perfectly reasonable to try and negotiate with your manager or to say outright you won't be working all day both Christmas Day and Christmas Eve. However, it is not reasonable to call in sick on Christmas Day if you are not sick and no point commenting about the operations of the hotel as that is not up to you.

IcecreamWhatSandwich · 16/08/2024 10:28

They are BU by expecting a new person to do a 12 hour shift without extra pay. You should be getting double time, and there should be 3 people doing 4 hour shifts or so, so no one's Xmas is completely ruined.

If the people you're letting down are the same ones who control these decisions, or if the more senior staff have engineered not having to work, then absolutely phone in sick.

ladydeedy · 16/08/2024 10:46

You sound immature and entitled and I am glad you dont work for me!
Do it, try to negotiate one of the two days or leave.

MeanWeedratStew · 16/08/2024 11:21

How old are you, OP? Given your father's age, I would expect you to be middle-aged, but your posts read as if you're a very young adult who is only just discovering how unfair the world of work can be.

Other posters have said this in a million ways, but you're not listening: work can be shit. You either work through the shitty bits, or you leave.

FredericC · 16/08/2024 13:54

You're being a bit silly and sound very young.

If you're sure you're not BU why even post?

WindsurfingDreams · 16/08/2024 14:16

Well, you have a few choices

  1. find a new job, with a working pattern that suits you
  2. accept a new job is hard to find and ask your dad if he minds celebrating Christmas with you at a different time 3)accept a new job is hard to find but pull a sicky and risk being sacked - and find it even harder to find a new job.

it doesn't sound fair, and I wouldn't be happy, but I would be going with option 1.

NAndJIsLockingDown · 16/08/2024 14:58

I'd see right through it and sack you on the spot.

Clarinet1 · 16/08/2024 15:11

I agree that the 12 hour shifts both days and no extra pay is pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable. My feeling is that there is something better for the OP out there so she should not waste time and energy trying to change her employer’s and colleague’s minds but get on with finding a new job.
Also, I’m afraid the fact that the OP’s birthday coincides with Christmas and her DF’s age are not the employer’s problem.

Hoardasauruskaren · 16/08/2024 15:17

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:12

If I'm pulling my weight
Why is nobody else?
Why are Christmas Eve and day on the same person ?
To me that's not fair
I wouldn't mind doing Christmas Eve
New Year's Eve and day just not Christmas Day

Christmas eve is classed as a normal working day! So no reason why staff wouldn’t be expected to work both that and Christmas Day. Boxing Day is a public holiday so you expy to be off then if you worked Christmas Day. In your circumstances I wouldn’t wasn’t to do it either but you have time to sort it rather than phone in sick on the day !

luckylavender · 16/08/2024 15:21

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:18

The thing is tho the whole "not fair on colleagues "
The same ones who refused to split the shift
I have no problem doing 4 hours
Or even 6 so I had time with dad
But this is me leaving him alone all day
He will have no dinner as he won't be able to do it himself
I'm looking for a new job already but no guarantees I will get one before December

You've told us how you feel. Look for another job now. That's the solution.

DeadpoolvsBlackswan · 16/08/2024 15:35

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:18

The thing is tho the whole "not fair on colleagues "
The same ones who refused to split the shift
I have no problem doing 4 hours
Or even 6 so I had time with dad
But this is me leaving him alone all day
He will have no dinner as he won't be able to do it himself
I'm looking for a new job already but no guarantees I will get one before December

Have you told them that you are your dads only carer?

Penguinfeet24 · 16/08/2024 15:38

You signed your contract in hospitality - that involves working Christmas day sometimes, that's what you signed up for. If you can't do it then find another job that isn't in hospitality (or healthcare).

MyDogsPaws · 16/08/2024 15:47

It’s rubbish OP, I really do think that any business that doesn’t HAVE to be open over Xmas shouldnt be. I used to work in hospitality and because I didn’t have kids I always had to work Christmas Day. It made me sick knowing every member of staff there was wasting the day just to make money for someone else. Lets be honest, most of the general staff in hospitality are there because it’s the only job they can get at that time not because its a ‘career choice’. Ive never gone out for a meal on Xmas day just because it’s not something I want to support.

Commonblue · 16/08/2024 15:51

I can understand your concerns about your dad but I'm going to be blunt and say this is a dick move and your being very unreasonable. You took on a job knowing where working Christmas day would happen. People with families all over the world have to work Christmas day and celebrate on another day and you're no different. All you phoning in sick means is someone else has to cover your shift, it's an incredibly selfish thing to do.

If you don't want to work Christmas then find a new job. Your family situation isn't the responsibility of your employers to facilitate and phoning in sick shows a lack of respect to your colleagues and immaturity on your part.

DeadpoolvsBlackswan · 16/08/2024 16:39

HappyLittleNarwhal · 15/08/2024 13:31

Hang on - does your dad have dementia or similar? Is that why he wouldn't be able to understand Christmas Day not being quite the same?

If that's the case...just tell him Boxing Day is Christmas Day.

Honestly I get why you don't want to do it, but you sound quite stroppy and unpleasant about it.

He will be on his own for 12 hours on Christmas day from 11am to 11pm. I would be upset if no one was bending and willing to share the hours with me. It sounds like a toxic environment to work in. I would call in sick if it was me or tell them to stick their job up their arse.

Boomer55 · 16/08/2024 16:41

I really wouldn’t unless you can prove it with a proper medical certificate. It’s not fair on your colleagues.

Beezknees · 16/08/2024 16:43

YABVU, it's part of your job. I've had to work Christmas day before and I'm a single parent.

DeadpoolvsBlackswan · 16/08/2024 16:46

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:37

@Michelle987 the owners of the hotel decided to make the hotel open for business
They didn't have too
They chose that well in advance so people could book
Yet these owners /managers are not in Christmas Day
It's us who are on 11.44 a hour who are there for 12 hours

Find another job that fits in with your life. You could try warehouse work they should be closed Christmas day.

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