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Phoning in sick on Christmas Day?

343 replies

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:06

I work as a receptionist in a hotel
I have been told as the newest member of the team I will be working Christmas Day months in advance.
It's 11am -11 pm shift and the same Christmas Eve (my birthday)
It's minimum wage and we won't get paid extra.
My dad is 87 and isn't in the best health and I'm his only family
I'm really scared that this might be his last Christmas and I'm wasting it at work for a company who doesn't care
I asked to swap and was told no
I asked if anyone else wanted to work was told no

Aibu to phone in sick?
Il just add I'm not workshy
I never ring in sick

OP posts:
Michelle987 · 15/08/2024 15:37

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:37

@Michelle987 the owners of the hotel decided to make the hotel open for business
They didn't have too
They chose that well in advance so people could book
Yet these owners /managers are not in Christmas Day
It's us who are on 11.44 a hour who are there for 12 hours

You know how a business works right?! Of course theyre going to put the price up over a festive period.

look if you dont like it, get another job. You knew what you were signing up for with the potential to work unsociable hours etc

Dotto · 15/08/2024 15:43

Put your notice in before Christmas if you're still there, make sure you give enough notice as per your contract.

Homesweethome23 · 15/08/2024 15:47

Good thing is you have plenty of time to find another job it’s only august.

Don’t get upset over this put your efforts into finding a new job, it can be done.

As someone who has worked in retail over Christmas it is shit when others won’t help out and 12 hour shifts Christmas Eve and Christmas Day is not fair especially when it can be shared between staff, but as said above be proactive now and look for a new job. Good luck.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 15/08/2024 15:48

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:38

Also the hotel isn't opening out of charity
It's x4 the normal price of a room
Charging £130 pp for a glorified Sunday dinner
Let's not pretend the hotel is opening out of the goodness of their heart
They up the prices yet don't up the staffs wages for this day

So vote with your feet and quit, OP.

At the end of the day, you've chosen to work somewhere that is open on Christmas Day and they don't even give staff who work on Christmas Day extra pay.

Other jobs are available.

But you would be very very very unreasonable to pretend that you are going to work on Christmas Day and then just not show up. Because then someone else who may be enjoying what might be their last Christmas with an elderly relative, or their first Christmas with their new baby, or their first Christmas off in five years, will get a call just as they're sitting down for lunch telling them they have to go in because you haven't turned up.

If I were your manager and you did this, I would fire you. So you may as well leave before Christmas so at least they have time to adjust the rota.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 15/08/2024 15:49

You sound ignorant as fck OP, and I'm starting to understand why it might take you a while to find other employment with your attitude.
Just don't work in hospitality/health care/emergency services - it's so fecking obvious 🫣.
Your poor colleagues, especially if they have young children, elderly relatives or anyone else who depends on them.

MSLRT · 15/08/2024 15:53

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:38

Also the hotel isn't opening out of charity
It's x4 the normal price of a room
Charging £130 pp for a glorified Sunday dinner
Let's not pretend the hotel is opening out of the goodness of their heart
They up the prices yet don't up the staffs wages for this day

Why did you bother asking for opinions when are ignoring everyone's advice? If you don't like it then look for another job. You sound immature and difficult.

Whaleandsnail6 · 15/08/2024 16:01

Im not sure why you have posted, you clearly dont think you are unreasonable.

As a nurse, who has done more than my fair share of Christmas shifts, I do think ringing in sick would be unreasonable.

You dont want to work Christmas, there is plenty of time between now and then to get a different job

DragonGypsyDoris · 15/08/2024 16:05

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:06

I work as a receptionist in a hotel
I have been told as the newest member of the team I will be working Christmas Day months in advance.
It's 11am -11 pm shift and the same Christmas Eve (my birthday)
It's minimum wage and we won't get paid extra.
My dad is 87 and isn't in the best health and I'm his only family
I'm really scared that this might be his last Christmas and I'm wasting it at work for a company who doesn't care
I asked to swap and was told no
I asked if anyone else wanted to work was told no

Aibu to phone in sick?
Il just add I'm not workshy
I never ring in sick

Lying about being sick on Christmas Day is a great way to be sacked, if that's what you want. Put yourself in the manager's position - how would it look?

LlynTegid · 15/08/2024 16:14

If I have interpreted this correctly, you have been there less than two years, so can be sacked under a whim, assuming one of the limited exceptions does not apply. New employment protections will not be law by then.

The best course of action I think is to resign nearer the time if you have not got another job. I hope you find one though.

Raaraathelionrah · 15/08/2024 16:18

You need to hand your notice in.
It would be morally wrong to say you’re sick and not go in. And someone else covers. There’s loads of hotels open at Christmas it’s normal and part and parcel of working in that industry is isn’t a shock it’s open.
Nothing wrong with not wanting to work on Christmas Day , I also wouldn’t, but I wouldn’t take a job that required it. Just find somewhere else and move on. But don’t ring in sick and drop out last minute that’s shit behaviour.

Honourspren · 15/08/2024 16:32

@themanors Are you religious?

If you are, and Christmas Day in whatever shape is part of that religion, then yes, find a different job.

If you are not, then move the day of the celebration, because it doesn't matter whether you celebrate family time on the 25th, 23rd or 27th.

HelenWheels · 15/08/2024 16:51

Watfrordmummy · 15/08/2024 13:40

Your Dad is 87, I also have a parent that age, at that age one day is very much like the next and if you celebrate before or after it would be better than losing your job.

not at all!

myusernamewastakenbyme · 15/08/2024 16:52

Phone in sick Op....I wouldnt worry about a colleague having to cover you as who in their right mind is going to answer the phone on Xmas day when they see its their boss ringing.

FOJN · 15/08/2024 16:54

OK your employers are shit and they have allocated the shifts unfairly but your personal circumstances and sense of fairness are not relevant here. You are employed to do a job which includes shifts that your employer decides for you. You have, very reasonably, tried to find a compromise but it hasn't worked.

If you phone in sick now they will know it's because you didn't want to work the shifts you were given and it could end with you getting the sack which will not improve your job prospects and will immediately leave you without an income. It would not be a good idea.

You need to concentrate your energy on finding another job so you can hand in your notice and leave before Christmas.

IHopeYouStepOnALegPiece · 15/08/2024 16:54

Why bother asking if you’re just going to get defensive and clearly do it anyway?

You just wanted everyone to come on here and tell you how awful that is and YANBU?

Ghostgirl77 · 15/08/2024 17:10

You sound very entitled.

Just celebrate on a different day like the rest of us who work Christmas do 🤷🏻‍♀️

You can do all the same things and can even use iplayer to watch all the tv programs as if it was actually Christmas Day!

Then next year it’ll be someone else’s turn to work and you can have Christmas Day off.

HelenWheels · 15/08/2024 17:11

i had a job where the awful other staff told me i would be working Christmas, i sort of worked that out, it was meals on wheels so every day of the year!
i thought, to myself, no, i will have left by then!
which i did,
not because of christmas but because they were AWFUL

StormingNorman · 15/08/2024 17:15

This thread is brilliant. It’s like the OP doesn’t understand that people like to go away over Christmas and it is the job of hotels and hotel staff to cater to them.

Serencwtch · 15/08/2024 17:19

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:08

Well it's either disappointing a company or my dad.
I suggested shorter shifts over more members of staff and was refused

It's not about 'disappointing' the company it's fraud & the same as stealing from your company.

You can hand your notice in before Christmas & take unpaid leave then reapply in January.

I have always worked jobs that involve Xmas & unsocial hours as do many others & it's usually shitty jobs on low pay but that's tough - apply for something that has the hours you want - School, doctors surgery etc all have better hours.

MegaClutterSlut · 15/08/2024 17:31

Its really shit that they've given you both those shifts and not split them fairly between you all. Don't think I'd leave an elderly parent on there own xmas day either but I wouldn't call in sick, I'd leave

kierenthecommunity · 15/08/2024 18:36

Serencwtch · 15/08/2024 17:19

It's not about 'disappointing' the company it's fraud & the same as stealing from your company.

You can hand your notice in before Christmas & take unpaid leave then reapply in January.

I have always worked jobs that involve Xmas & unsocial hours as do many others & it's usually shitty jobs on low pay but that's tough - apply for something that has the hours you want - School, doctors surgery etc all have better hours.

How is it fraud and stealing? Presumably if she doesn’t go in, she doesn’t get paid.

OP if your dad is nearly ninety I’m assuming you’re middle aged, not some kid with their first job. You know calling in sick would BU you’re not an idiot. But you’ve been given loads of advice about how you can change things, it’s up to you if you take it.

I’m on nights Xmas eve, day and BD this year 😫 so I’m not exactly overly sympathetic 😂

ICantThinkOfOne13 · 15/08/2024 18:52

@themanors why did you even post and ask because you've already made your mind up, regardless of everybody else's comments or thoughts.

Destiny123 · 15/08/2024 19:01

Sinderalla · 15/08/2024 13:22

NHS are paid handsomely for Xmas day. I'm nhs.

I say get out of it what ever way you have to, deal with the consequences after.
I would take the rest of my life off work if I could spend another Christmas Day with any of my parents!!

Drs aren't lol ... we work a 13h day and get an 8h day in lieu... used to bug me the amount of nurses that were like "oh are you doing it for the money too?". Heck no, that'd be nice when are rota'd 13h days 24-27th for the 7th year running

you can't argue "I did last year" as it was in a different hospital and noone gives a toss if you never get xmas with your family..wish we could do the half days that the rest of theatre teams do but given you don't choose where you work, even if you do get an odd day in thr middle off you can't even go home when it's a 8h return trip home

Yes somewhat bitter. Least labour ward at Xmas is cheerful

tennesseewhiskey1 · 15/08/2024 19:04

Confused why you have come on to ask IYABU - most people have said yes, but you have all these reasons WHY you are not? I worked in a hotel - for years - i never got ONE Christmas off - my sister works for the same hotel now - in 10 years she's also not had ONE Christmas off. People who lie to get days like that off - everyone knows it's a lie - you're shafting someone else over - but like you said - why would you care?! Baffling. Please leave the hotel industry asap.

Annettecurtaintwitcher · 15/08/2024 19:15

Find a new job. Or have breakfast with your dad on Christmas Day and exchange presents, then have Christmas dinner together on Boxing Day. Don’t call in sick, it is not fair on whoever will have to cover for you.

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