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MPox

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SSpratt · 14/08/2024 22:41

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg35w27gzno

Not sure how worried to be about the latest news on MPox (previously Monkey Pox). A couple of years ago I had some minor surgery and there were warnings/advice posters all over the hospital about this disease, then it all died down. Anyone worried about catching it? I wasn’t until I read that it can be caught from talking to someone, originally we were told that it was spread via sexual contact.

A young girl with mpox lesions on her arms and legs during an outbreak in DR Congo in 2022

WHO declares Mpox global health emergency

Scientists are alarmed at the high fatality rate and rapid spread of a new variant of the virus.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg35w27gzno

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Turophilic · 15/08/2024 08:38

Trail374 · 15/08/2024 08:19

I think you need to read up a little more on it.

Mpox is transmitted through close contact, such as sex, skin-to-skin contact and talking or breathing close to another person.

As the BBC article said most common source of contagion was sex between men and its mostly in central Africa, I didn’t think it was something we needed to fret about just yet.

I know the type 2 is more contagious and more dangerous, but we also have existing vaccines to work on, unlike Covid.

LiesLiesEverywhere · 15/08/2024 08:45

‘WHO declares mpox global health emergency’

Fool me once…

Trail374 · 15/08/2024 08:54

Turophilic · 15/08/2024 08:38

As the BBC article said most common source of contagion was sex between men and its mostly in central Africa, I didn’t think it was something we needed to fret about just yet.

I know the type 2 is more contagious and more dangerous, but we also have existing vaccines to work on, unlike Covid.

That was a less contagious and dangerous strain that spread to Asia and Europe.

This is about the new strain:-

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2vv0pgggqzo

RafaistheKingofClay · 15/08/2024 12:11

60% of cases are in children. People really need to stop going on about men who have sex with men.

LoveRosesClimbing · 15/08/2024 19:37

The BBC is reporting a first case of the new variant in Sweden now. The health systems that mpox will begin to be found in, and baseline population levels of health in those countries will all be really different. The experience and impact of the same infection will be more and less severe in different economies.

The vaccines and treatments must be quickly made available in the countries in the Aftican continent that need them. So many people will be exposed in situations where they don’t have the same health resources to deal with the infection that we will be able to rely on here in the UK or in other richer countries.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 15/08/2024 19:43

Ineffable23 · 15/08/2024 04:39

If I remember correctly the mpox vaccine is essentially a smallpox vaccine. So there were stocks of it in e.g. the UK but perhaps not elsewhere.

I need to do some reading but my usual measure of how worried I should be comes from a friend who works in health emergency planning. The person in question worries about everything: the weather, infectious diseases, the state of hospitals. They have not worried at me at all about mpox so currently I'd say not too concerned.

Yep it's the smallpox vaccine.

So previously very widely used and well researched.

It's already available in the UK for some people (men who have sex with men). You can book on the NHS website.

CortieTat · 15/08/2024 20:22

The new variant is in Sweden now, we’ve already had the covid-style press conference about it.

Viviennemary · 15/08/2024 20:24

It sounds a horrific disease. I saw it on the news last night.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 15/08/2024 20:50

LaurieFairyCake · 15/08/2024 00:36

"Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f hotels full of the b* for all I care, while you're at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them."

The above is exactly what she said in the tweet

There's absolutely no wiggle room for nuance in that ^^

No, that was someone else.

A Tory councillor's wife I think.

Coffeeandacupcake · 16/08/2024 06:02

Does anyone think there will be lockdowns again? Really hope not, my elderly mother didn't cope well & children cannot miss out on education like they did in previous lockdowns...

namechangeforthisi · 16/08/2024 06:18

If there is one it will be a scarier one

Greytulips · 16/08/2024 06:28

For no lockdown you’d have to rely on people who have had known contact to stay away from others.

The biggest spread of Covid here was one person who didn’t want to miss out on new year knowing they had it.

Maybe it should be the responsibility of the known case to stay away or risk imprisonment.

As opposed to locking everyone else away.

Userxyd · 16/08/2024 06:58

Greytulips · 16/08/2024 06:28

For no lockdown you’d have to rely on people who have had known contact to stay away from others.

The biggest spread of Covid here was one person who didn’t want to miss out on new year knowing they had it.

Maybe it should be the responsibility of the known case to stay away or risk imprisonment.

As opposed to locking everyone else away.

But your example proves we can't rely on infected individuals to self isolate?

FindingMeno · 16/08/2024 07:07

Rather than fretting about how it might affect us, we should be fretting about getting vaccines and treatment to the children of DR Congo. A 10% mortality rate in children is heartbreaking.

CrunchyCarrot · 16/08/2024 07:20

FindingMeno · 16/08/2024 07:07

Rather than fretting about how it might affect us, we should be fretting about getting vaccines and treatment to the children of DR Congo. A 10% mortality rate in children is heartbreaking.

Yes. This isn't new in Africa either, WHO should have been more proactive in getting vaccines to them before now.

We are fortunate to have existing vaccines (the smallpox one - ACAM2000 that has quite a lot of side effects, and the more modern Jynneos which has fewer.)

Saw an anti-vaxxer on X trying to whip up people's fears by saying the Covid vaccines contained an adenovirus from monkeys and that's why mpox was spreading! mpox is a Poxviridae virus, not an Adenovirus! So the idiocy is still carrying on. I don't think I can stand another round of mis and dis information.

PandoraSox · 16/08/2024 09:39

Bloody hell @CrunchyCarrot . Idiots. I bet someone starts a thread soon, the anti-vaxxers always pop up on MN sooner or later.

BeaRF75 · 16/08/2024 09:41

Utterly tedious. But bizarrely, some people (hypochondriacs?) love to make a drama where no such thing exists.

pgtips2 · 16/08/2024 11:18

CrunchyCarrot · 16/08/2024 07:20

Yes. This isn't new in Africa either, WHO should have been more proactive in getting vaccines to them before now.

We are fortunate to have existing vaccines (the smallpox one - ACAM2000 that has quite a lot of side effects, and the more modern Jynneos which has fewer.)

Saw an anti-vaxxer on X trying to whip up people's fears by saying the Covid vaccines contained an adenovirus from monkeys and that's why mpox was spreading! mpox is a Poxviridae virus, not an Adenovirus! So the idiocy is still carrying on. I don't think I can stand another round of mis and dis information.

but isn't it the case that there is a massive resistance to vaccination in those countries including DR Congo? That's a really difficult situation to deal with, massive education campaign.

CobaltQueen · 16/08/2024 18:40

It's a storm in a teacup.
There will be no lockdowns as nobody would comply and the economy only now getting back on its feet.
I wish the media would stop scaremongering all the time.

BorgQueen · 16/08/2024 18:50

Surely anyone coming from/transiting via an affected country should be quarantined until they are ‘safe’ ? That would prevent any lockdown scenarios occuring.

AgileGreenSeal · 16/08/2024 18:51

No, not worried in the least.

AgileGreenSeal · 16/08/2024 18:53

I don’t think people would stand for all that nonsense again after the lying and deceit was so apparent the last time.

AngelusBell · 16/08/2024 22:26

CobaltQueen · 14/08/2024 23:08

Not worried at all. We had all this hype over MP a few months back and it disappeared from all media. I don't believe it is anything to worry about.

This is a new and more contagious strain. I’m not panicking but watching with interest.

Gingernaut · 16/08/2024 22:39

The World Tonight featured this tonight

It's a disease of intimacy and poverty with children being some of the victims - close contact, sneezing, coughing, skin to skin contact and contact with contaminated objects, fabric and other surfaces

Hundreds are dead and tens of thousands are infected, with rare vaccines not exactly pouring out of the factories

Coffeeandacupcake · 16/08/2024 23:08

@Gingernaut did they mention lockdowns or how exactly the world is going to respond to the threat of monkey pox?

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