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Disney + terms and conditions... Locked in for life!!!

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GoogleWhacking · 14/08/2024 20:22

I just read this www.thetimes.com/article/a0699e8b-4b41-4114-ad5e-42470c716499?shareToken=37228a1e75546f07f39376a2c6d2fb18
And find the audacity of Disney amazing!! No one ticking to agree terms and conditions for a streaming service can possibly imagine this would be the outcome!! You can't sue them even if they kill your partner!!

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Poppysmom22 · 14/08/2024 20:24

I’ve cancelled mine a couple of times it’s easy you just go on the website and go through the process. I cancel when I’ve watched all the content I want to watch then restart when there’s enough new stuff to keep me going for a month

GoogleWhacking · 14/08/2024 20:25

Poppysmom22 · 14/08/2024 20:24

I’ve cancelled mine a couple of times it’s easy you just go on the website and go through the process. I cancel when I’ve watched all the content I want to watch then restart when there’s enough new stuff to keep me going for a month

Did you read my post at all?? 😂

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howlsmovingbouncycastle · 14/08/2024 20:26

I just saw this article! Presumably there is no way a judge will actually decide in their favour …

Kumquat24 · 14/08/2024 20:27

Agree shocking.

My take on it is that they’ll be unsuccessful - though US law is always interesting.

I think they key aspect the defence are arguing is that while he accepted the T&Cs, she did not.

Secondly, are the T&Cs reasonable - eg agreeing any case must go to arbitration rather than be tested in front of a jury.

Kumquat24 · 14/08/2024 20:29

The amount he is seeking for the death of his wife is pennies, which makes me think he is dogged (quite rightly) in his pursuit of justice. This will be tricky for Disney - they could easily pay this amount via arbitration and sweep under the carpet.

AllTipAndNoIceberg · 14/08/2024 20:30

Oh my god, that poor family. How awful for the woman who died — she must have been so terrified as she realised what was happening 🥺

and yes, what the actual fuck re the Disney line of argument!

Poppysmom22 · 14/08/2024 20:31

GoogleWhacking · 14/08/2024 20:25

Did you read my post at all?? 😂

Nope I answered the title of your post which isn’t really linked to the article which relates to incorrect allergen information in parks and the t&c’s relating to park tickets ( which the article states includes the same clause) fairly standard clauses for the USA in an environment that has the risk of potential injury.

Reallybadidea · 14/08/2024 20:31

GoogleWhacking · 14/08/2024 20:25

Did you read my post at all?? 😂

Not even didn't RTFT, they ORTFT 🤣

Poppysmom22 · 14/08/2024 20:33

Maybe you should change the title to state the information about park tickets as that’s far more relevant than the Disney plus reference

Poppysmom22 · 14/08/2024 20:34

How would anyone actually have this or any other life changing experience happen while using the Disney plus service

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GoogleWhacking · 14/08/2024 20:41

@PoPoppysmom22 it is literally in the first paragraph of the article 🤦‍♂️

Disney + terms and conditions... Locked in for life!!!
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Poppysmom22 · 14/08/2024 20:42

Nope it says he also agreed to them when he purchased park tickets ‘Piccolo had accepted the terms again when buying theme park tickets through his Disney account last year, Disney’s lawyers noted.’ Whose reading comp is stuck on what now

Kumquat24 · 14/08/2024 20:45

Poppysmom22 · 14/08/2024 20:31

Nope I answered the title of your post which isn’t really linked to the article which relates to incorrect allergen information in parks and the t&c’s relating to park tickets ( which the article states includes the same clause) fairly standard clauses for the USA in an environment that has the risk of potential injury.

Happy to be corrected but my understanding is that these weren’t the T&Cs on the park tickets and this wouldn’t generally standard on park tickets. (Again please correct if you have evidence of this as standard on attraction tickets).

Because the tickets were subsequently booked via the Disney+ sign up, the T&Cs for this service and associated products are being attempted to be applied.

Again, my feelings on how this will play out come down to reasonableness . Is it reasonable for a consumer to understand and agree to these T&Cs for a streaming service also apply to a restaurant booking undertaken as a result of purchasing park tickets.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 14/08/2024 20:46

He can still sue. But the argument is that it shouldn't be through the courts but quietly through arbitration.

It's also noted he agreed to this when buying park tickets.

A judge won't allow it to stand in the T&Cs of a streaming site else it will allow all the streaming services to slip things into their T&Cs like it which will make things messy.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 14/08/2024 20:51

Definitely a clause in the booking T&C about arbitration

It's still shady, and the amount offered is measly when the injuries could be life changing, but not "buy Disney+ and never be able to sue Disney"

MattDamon · 14/08/2024 20:54

'Most Americans don’t know that they are bound by forced arbitration. Buried in the fine print of employment, cell phone, credit card, retirement account, home building, and nursing home contracts are mandatory arbitration clauses. Just by taking a job or buying a product or service, individuals are forced to give up their right to go to court if they are harmed by a company. Because the private system of forced arbitration benefits companies – and disadvantages consumers and workers – more and more industries are using forced arbitration to evade accountability.

In arbitration, there is no judge, jury, or right to an appeal. Arbitrators do not have to follow the law, and there is no public review of their decisions to ensure that they resolve disputes correctly. Moreover, contracts typically name the arbitration provider that must be used – the one preferred by the company.

Forced arbitration is frequently pricier than taking a case to court, often costing parties thousands of dollars. Individuals are regularly required to pay a large fee simply to initiate the arbitration process. Then, in order to arbitrate, individuals sometimes have to travel thousands of miles on their own dime to participate in the proceedings. In the end, the loser (usually the individual) frequently pays the company’s legal fees.

Forced arbitration strips away our most basic rights and makes many worker and consumer protections unenforceable. Laws such as the Civil Rights Act and the Equal Pay Act that safeguard us from discrimination based on age, sex, religion, race, or disability, and prohibit unequal pay for equal work, become meaningless in arbitration. Workers, for example, lose important protections for blowing the whistle on waste or fraud, or for fighting retaliation for taking family medical leave.

Consumers cannot sue for negligence, defective products, or scams. Even if a retirement account disappears, a home is dangerous or defective, or a loved one suffers harm in a nursing home, a forced arbitration clause means there is no right to take the company responsible to court.'

fairarbitrationnow.org/what-is-forced-arbitration/

Poppysmom22 · 14/08/2024 21:02

This is quite terrifying

WickieRoy · 14/08/2024 21:05

Not covering yourself in glory there @Poppysmom22 🤣

iamtheblcksheep · 14/08/2024 21:05

Disney is an evil far left melting pot. This is Florida. It will be laughed out of court.

Poppysmom22 · 14/08/2024 21:10

WickieRoy · 14/08/2024 21:05

Not covering yourself in glory there @Poppysmom22 🤣

Not sure I understand your comment tbf care to elaborate

WickieRoy · 14/08/2024 21:13

Poppysmom22 · 14/08/2024 21:10

Not sure I understand your comment tbf care to elaborate

Didn't even read the OP, never mind the article she linked, then doubled down by slagging the title of the thread, and then insisted that park tickets are nothing to do with Disney+, when the whole point of the case is that he bought the park tickets through the Disney+ account.

If you can't be bothered to at least read the OP's posts, then you don't need to add to the thread.

Poppysmom22 · 14/08/2024 21:17

Erm did read the thread when it was made clear that it isn’t really about Disney plus at all, I also read the article and quoted it in places too, park tickets aren’t bought through Disney plus accounts however the t&cs have the same clause relating to arbitration as for the Disney travel company as pointed out further down thread along with comprehensive information relating to forced arbitration later in the thread this clause is also used I other theme parks in the us and can also be seen in the t&cs for sea world and universal studios

WickieRoy · 14/08/2024 21:19

You should always read the thread. Imagine being the first reply and not even reading the OP.

wellno · 14/08/2024 21:21

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