To ask whose right of way it was? (with pic)

[AngeloMysterioso]

Two cars pulling into the same road from two roads which end opposite each other. Car A is turning right and Car B is turning left. Both had to wait for a few cars to pass in the direction they were travelling and then both pulled out at the same time, very nearly colliding.

Whose right of way was it?

YANBU - Car A’s right of way
YABU - Car B’s right of way

Maybe she did check? Maybe he moved after she had moved off?

https://www.adriving.co.uk/priority-on-crossroads/

Rule of Priority When Emerging from Side Roads

If you are emerging left or going straight ahead at the crossroad you have priority over the traffic from the road opposite if they are turning their right but never assume as sometimes they don’t stop especially if they have been waiting for a while so try to get eye contact if they are not looking at you and looking for the gap probably they will pull out.

Well, then there is nothing more that she could do but she didn't say that in her OP.

But if I was car B then I would always let car A go first if they want to as it is so much more difficult for them.

I must live in a nice area because I have never had anyone do what car B did when I was in car A. I have always been allowed to turn right first.

If they had collided then it would have been his fault, but her premiums would still rise.

The car turning left as they don't have to cut across traffic.

Thanks for that.

The important point is never to assume that the person turning right will give you priority.

I'm looking again at the Highway Code and just cannot see where the car arriving first at the intersection has the right of way rule is. Not trying to be argumentative, genuinely want to see where it appears.

Well, if she did then that is fine, but she didn't say that in her post.

But if I was car B then I would always let car A go first if they want to as it is so much more difficult for them.

I must live in a nice area because I have never had anyone do what car B did when I was in car A. I have always been allowed to turn right first.

If they had collided then it would have been his fault, but her premiums would still rise.

If car A was at the junction first then car A should go first imho. Unless there was traffic stopping carA from turning but the no traffic coming from the right so gave car B a clear exit.

I always thought B would have right of way over A like everyone else said

It doesn’t, it has rules for unmarked crossroads (ie there are no rules). But despite what ‘Alfies’ might state, it isn’t in the Highway Code.
And googling brings up other driving schools saying different things anyway. That from https://www.passmefast.co.uk/resources/rules-of-the-road/driving-law/right-of-way-junction
for example:

‘Priority over the opposite minor road
Unlike at a T-junction, you have to consider drivers emerging from the opposite minor road at a crossroads. Whose right of way it is depends on which way you’re each trying to go.

• You want to turn left or head straight on: you have priority. Remain vigilant, because not all drivers abide by this rule, and may end up cutting across you.’

The bottom line is, as stated above, even when there are clear rules, don’t assume everyone will follow them and drive vigilantly in case of entitled fools.

It does tend to be men and then they are so horrible

Whoever goes first?! 😄

What a prick he is. Whenever I get male road rage idiots like that, I always just feel sorry for their wife and kids who have to put up with that aggressive attitude at home.

B.

100% B...

Who got there first?

Hope I don’t come across you at a junction 😁. Because if I was car B I’d be going first regardless of if car A had already been sat at the junction. Left turners have priority. Right turners have to wait for everyone else even if that means waiting for ten left turners to all come out. Because the right turner is crossing the path of the opposite traffic (one of those left turners could be going straight on, never trust an indicator).

That 'Alfies Driving School' website contradicts itself. There is a link on that page that opens another page. Within that page there is this bit...
"What is the main rule for right of way in the UK?
In the United Kingdom, there are two primary principles for determining who has right of way:

• Drivers on major roads receive priority over those on minor roads.
• Priority is given to vehicles travelling straight ahead or turning left. This means that drivers turning right will have to wait for a space in traffic before proceeding.
• Both rules apply at the same time, so there are a few things to consider when you get to a fork in the road. Let’s see what happens."

So the first google result isn't always the correct one!

According to the second point above, since car A is turning right and car B is turning left, car B has the priority.

I don't know if there is something in the water but people seem to be incredibly aggressive lately. Two nights running I've picked GS up from his job in a bar, virtually no traffic and I'm in a 30mph zone and both nights I've had a car zoom up doing about 50 and overtaking me on a narrow bit of the road blasting their horn at midnight in a residential area and clearly screaming abuse at me. Today my husband got abuse for no reason, car heading towards us, road not very wide but wide enough to pass safely as we did. The other driving screaming and yelling.

Last week was a classic. I went to the local tip, as I was pulling out a man who was waiting for a space was very rude, I think he might have forgotten his window was open. I parked and walked back to him and asked him what the problem was, he ignored me, I asked why he shouted abuse at me and another man told him I was talking to him. He was clearly embarrassed and mumbled that he hadn't said anything. I told him I wasn't deaf and he wasn't very brave out of his tin box. The other man was laughing as I walked off. Probably not a smart move but it made me feel better.

Well done you @Iwasafool. I bet that gave him something to chew on.I like the tin box reference and I'll file that away in case I need to use it!

Driving standards have plummeted in the past couple of years. Certainly have in Birmingham anyway where there have been several deaths including 3 cyclists in the past month

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/protests-planned-following-spate-road-29558126.amp#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17236497490492&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com

The Highway code means nothing to many drivers and they know that no one will stop them. You have to drive with your wits about you all the time.

I was taught to give way to the right. So A has priority. As in a roundabout or T junction.

@CormorantStrikesBack

Car B has right of way because it is turning left, not right across traffic.

Car A has priority. In U.K. you give way to cars on the right and A will be to the right of B.
B has the easier turn but gives way to cars coming from the right which Car A is doing.

You only give way to the right on a roundabout, not at junctions.