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Ugh. I want to call this out but I don't want to get in trouble. [content warning: sexual assault]

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BeEasyonYourself · 13/08/2024 18:17

This old (approx 70) man has set himself up as some kind of guru. The one time I went to his flat with my (very vulnerable) friend he gave us loads of alcohol. We were both pretty young and he said we could sleep there. He came on my friend's face and attempted to rape me. I have several other friends he has done this to. One friend woke up to his face between her legs (apologies for the TMI, just making clear how disgusting he is)

There have just over the last few days been multiple posts on SM (from men) praising him as a hero and a guru. It just disgusts me and I worry for other young women falling for his spiel but would I get in trouble for saying this on SM? I have no evidence, it's my word against his.

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StellaCruella · 13/08/2024 18:19

I'm sorry this happened to you and your friends.

How would you feel about going to the police?

nocoolnamesleft · 13/08/2024 18:19

Would any of the victims of sexual assault be prepared to go to the police?

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 13/08/2024 18:20

Report him.

At the very least it will mean that there's a report logged so if he does anything he gets caught for then there's already a report in.

But if you can get lots of those you know to report it then it's a stronger case

Otherwise he's just going to continue to abuse and assault vulnerable people

Merryoldgoat · 13/08/2024 18:20

How did you and these women come to be in his company? Trying to understand how the situation came about, not shifting the blame - I just can’t quite envisage how you ended up in his home…

theduchessofspork · 13/08/2024 18:20

Would you be willing to report to the police, that’s the best first step and the most effective way to stop him.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 13/08/2024 18:21

And I mean to the police

Don't post it on SM. You'll open yourself up to all sorts of nasty verbal abuse at the least and it might even affect any further court case because it could be said you influence things.

JanglyBeads · 13/08/2024 18:22

How old were you, how long ago was this and the other incidents you know about?
Do you mean he's nationally known or what?

Sadsadworld · 13/08/2024 18:22

I'm so sorry this happened to you.

If any/all of you feel able, I think police would be best approach.

https://rapecrisis.org.uk

Onehappymam · 13/08/2024 18:23

Report it to the police.

Viewfrommyhouse · 13/08/2024 18:25

Merryoldgoat · 13/08/2024 18:20

How did you and these women come to be in his company? Trying to understand how the situation came about, not shifting the blame - I just can’t quite envisage how you ended up in his home…

It doesn't matter how they got there.

OP, are you or any of the other victims prepared to go to the police?

Viewfrommyhouse · 13/08/2024 18:25

Merryoldgoat · 13/08/2024 18:20

How did you and these women come to be in his company? Trying to understand how the situation came about, not shifting the blame - I just can’t quite envisage how you ended up in his home…

It doesn't matter how they got there.

OP, are you or any of the other victims prepared to go to the police?

nameeCha · 13/08/2024 18:26

Could you anonymously post about him on SM? I don’t use Facebook much but there is a feature on there for this. I really think you should make people aware. There are lots of con people like this and your post might make someone think.

LadyMacbethWasMisunderstood · 13/08/2024 18:26

I am very sorry this happened to you. It is far better and safer to report to the police than post on SM which could bring trouble to your door.

HoHoHoliday · 13/08/2024 18:28

Posting about him on social media would be pointless and may cause trouble for you - it would be slanderous. You really need to report him to the police, and encourage your friends who had the same experience to do the same.

MoosakaWithFries · 13/08/2024 18:30

Have you considered reporting this to the police?

WouldYouLikeMeToSpellThatForYou · 13/08/2024 18:30

theduchessofspork · 13/08/2024 18:20

Would you be willing to report to the police, that’s the best first step and the most effective way to stop him.

^^

Get some support from a rape crisis centre in your area. They offer therapeutic support or if you want to report, they offer ISVAs.

He sounds vile and prolific.

He needs reporting

Notimeforaname · 13/08/2024 18:30

If you feel you want to report it, please do. But I would stay away from asking or trying to convince anyone else to.

Look after yourself and what you feel you need to do.

bergamotorange · 13/08/2024 18:32

Don't discuss on SM, speak either to a rape charity or the police.

BeEasyonYourself · 13/08/2024 18:34

Merryoldgoat · 13/08/2024 18:20

How did you and these women come to be in his company? Trying to understand how the situation came about, not shifting the blame - I just can’t quite envisage how you ended up in his home…

I was introduced by my friend. We were both early 20s. He was very good at acting very caring and... I suppose fatherly? Whilst giving drink and drugs to clearly vulnerable young women. Until they were in such a state they would let him do what he wanted.

My friend was a foster care leaver, so so vulnerable and took drugs he offered in addition to the alcohol (I didn't, I had to carry her home)

Honestly I thought he'd have been arrested by now but I can see I should have done a bit more about it. I was just blocking out the memory of waking up to an elderly man trying to insert his penis into me 😬

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Maddy70 · 13/08/2024 18:34

If you post anything you could mess up any prosecution

Please report to the police

LilyMumsnet · 13/08/2024 18:35

Hi OP

We hope you don't mind, but we've added a content warning to your title.

If you change your mind about this being in AIBU, please let us know and we can move it elsewhere. You might find some support in our webguide here.

Flowers

Rape & Sexual Assault Webguide | Mumsnet

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https://www.mumsnet.com/i/rape-and-sexual-assault-webguide

BeEasyonYourself · 13/08/2024 18:38

LilyMumsnet · 13/08/2024 18:35

Hi OP

We hope you don't mind, but we've added a content warning to your title.

If you change your mind about this being in AIBU, please let us know and we can move it elsewhere. You might find some support in our webguide here.

Flowers

No problem Lily, I should have done that myself!

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ButWhatAboutTheBees · 13/08/2024 18:43

BeEasyonYourself · 13/08/2024 18:34

I was introduced by my friend. We were both early 20s. He was very good at acting very caring and... I suppose fatherly? Whilst giving drink and drugs to clearly vulnerable young women. Until they were in such a state they would let him do what he wanted.

My friend was a foster care leaver, so so vulnerable and took drugs he offered in addition to the alcohol (I didn't, I had to carry her home)

Honestly I thought he'd have been arrested by now but I can see I should have done a bit more about it. I was just blocking out the memory of waking up to an elderly man trying to insert his penis into me 😬

Gently, he hasn't been arrested because people like yourself aren't reporting him to the police

It's a horrible experience you went through and reporting it takes a lot of bravery but until someone finds the courage to speak out and hopefully encourage others to then it's definitely going to keep happening

BeEasyonYourself · 13/08/2024 18:44

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 13/08/2024 18:43

Gently, he hasn't been arrested because people like yourself aren't reporting him to the police

It's a horrible experience you went through and reporting it takes a lot of bravery but until someone finds the courage to speak out and hopefully encourage others to then it's definitely going to keep happening

I'm literally on hold to 101 now!

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Viewfrommyhouse · 13/08/2024 18:45

BeEasyonYourself · 13/08/2024 18:44

I'm literally on hold to 101 now!

That takes courage OP, well done x