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To think sending a job rejection e-mail at 10.45 on a Saturday night is a bit shitty?

105 replies

happygolurkey · 11/08/2024 11:49

This is the second time I’ve had a rejection email for a job application just before heading to my bed. I know it’s on me to not be checking this late on, but my emails were open from earlier that evening and I had just lifted my phone to set my alarm for the morning. In the case of this one last night, I’d had a short ‘informal’ zoom chat with them followed by a formal interview. Then this fairly generic rejection email. What’s getting to me is that on leaving the interview the interviewer specifically said that they would make a decision on the Thursday, but rather than contact applicants at, in her own words ‘unsociable hours they had previously been corresponding’ they’d wait till the next day. So they knew it was a bit shit but did it anyway. I’m guessing the reason they didn’t get in touch on the Friday was they were negotiating with the successful applicant, which is fair enough. But why send it at that time of night, to me it just leaves you with your head burling and unable to sleep, whereas through the day you can distract yourself, do something for your wellbeing, or ‘get back on the horse’ so to speak by looking for something else, working on your cv or taking some positive step of some kind. Am being unreasonable, or is this just the new norm? Am buying an alarm clock today and making sure I’m more mindful of phone use, as I say, I know it’s on me and to manage that, but just think this could have been handled with more consideration. I was thinking of emailing tomorrow morning pointing this out, but wonder if it’s worth the bother. Sorry this is so long. Just feeling a bit crap

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SunOnTheRiver · 11/08/2024 19:29

happygolurkey · 11/08/2024 19:25

😂oh dear, again, absolutely not trying to say what is ‘allowed’. Delighted you’re taking such an interest in me😅i just would have thought that if I’m making a drama out of nothing you’d have better things to do than keep responding. But it’s no skin off my nose how you want to spend your time.

You are sounding like a petulant child again OP.

happygolurkey · 11/08/2024 19:33

di2004 · 11/08/2024 19:27

Yes it's shitty of them. Just think you've had a lucky escape.. x

You’re right. That’s the sensible way of looking at it, thanks

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tothelefttotheleft · 11/08/2024 19:34

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Absolutely no need for you to be so unkind.

BellesAndGraces · 11/08/2024 19:35

Yikes OP, your responses to some posters are not painting you in a great light. Yes, the recruiter shouldn’t have sent that email when they did but 1) they were working late on a Saturday, so perhaps have some sympathy and 2) it’s also absolutely correct to point out that this is an issue of your own making as you were on your phone with email window open that late in the evening. The alarm clock will be a good investment for you.

Pickled21 · 11/08/2024 19:35

Instead of emailing them about it I would be looking at ways in which you could improve your resilience. It's very normal to be disheartened if you have a series of rejections in a short period but you need to pick yourself up and get on with it.

There is better out there for you, reframe your thinking and focus on that.

fatfatfatstillfat · 11/08/2024 19:35

SunOnTheRiver · 11/08/2024 19:29

You are sounding like a petulant child again OP.

Your replies have been quite mean spirited and petty. It really does come over as if you’re trying to subtly (only it isn’t very subtle) insult and be generally unpleasant about someone who is naturally a bit disappointed and dejected. Obviously most people will have unsuccessful job interviews and it’s never nice as a lot of work goes into preparing for interviews and most places recognise this and try to soften the blow as much as possible. It isn’t unreasonable to be disappointed in the immediate aftermath.

Generally OP (sorry for tangent) I find the first few hours after a rejection the hardest and then lick my wounds and move on!

PiperBurrito · 11/08/2024 19:37

Yes, it is a shitty thing to do.

I used to send all sorts of emails out in the evening and weekends in my job, but then I realised it looked awful and unprofessional. I now only do so if there is a compelling reason to (a deadline that has to be met) or where it’s inconsequential and gets it off my desk. Otherwise everything goes between 8am and 5:30pm.

tothelefttotheleft · 11/08/2024 19:41

@SunOnTheRiver

You are not coming over well. You seem to be deliberately trying to be unkind to the @op.

happygolurkey · 11/08/2024 19:44

fatfatfatstillfat · 11/08/2024 19:35

Your replies have been quite mean spirited and petty. It really does come over as if you’re trying to subtly (only it isn’t very subtle) insult and be generally unpleasant about someone who is naturally a bit disappointed and dejected. Obviously most people will have unsuccessful job interviews and it’s never nice as a lot of work goes into preparing for interviews and most places recognise this and try to soften the blow as much as possible. It isn’t unreasonable to be disappointed in the immediate aftermath.

Generally OP (sorry for tangent) I find the first few hours after a rejection the hardest and then lick my wounds and move on!

Yeh, am totally open to all views and the range of opinions has been really helpful. Good to see different opinions eg some saying they’d rather know sooner than later, which I get. The unpleasantness of some is a bit odd though. Just can’t work out why they’re so invested, but then again, they somehow manage to be simultaneously amusing in their rhetoric😅

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happygolurkey · 11/08/2024 19:59

And yes. You’re right. Am already feeling relieved I didn’t get it to be honest. Time to move on

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Nat6999 · 11/08/2024 20:08

murasaki · 11/08/2024 12:03

My friend got an email informing her of an upcoming disciplinary at 5pm on Christmas Eve. So she could fret about it 0ver the break. That was nice.

That's just about as bad as me finding out my exh wasn't going to be charged for raping me the morning after I had surgery for the injuries he caused.

CarlieF · 11/08/2024 20:47

happygolurkey · 11/08/2024 19:25

😂oh dear, again, absolutely not trying to say what is ‘allowed’. Delighted you’re taking such an interest in me😅i just would have thought that if I’m making a drama out of nothing you’d have better things to do than keep responding. But it’s no skin off my nose how you want to spend your time.

You just sound ridiculous. Takes me about 30 seconds replying to a message, so it's not really how I'm spending my time is it? You're having a dig at anyone who has commented more than once or with a view that you disagree with. Weird.

dontstopmenowimhavingagoodtime · 11/08/2024 20:56

Hisapsy · 11/08/2024 12:06

I would see it as someone having to work very late from home. Perhaps they have too many responsibilities. Not all email programs have a schedule send facility.

Or perhaps they're on force working and have not got the decency to schedule the email to be sent at an appropriate time.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 11/08/2024 21:22

Lauraa7 · 11/08/2024 12:05

i do a lot of recruiting and often schedule decline emails in the system. I wouldn’t have a clue what time of day they go out. Saturday evening is terrible, but it might have been unintentional

But if you are scheduling - presumably you determine when they go eg at 5pm, eg at 9 am following morning

murasaki · 11/08/2024 22:59

Nat6999 · 11/08/2024 20:08

That's just about as bad as me finding out my exh wasn't going to be charged for raping me the morning after I had surgery for the injuries he caused.

God, that is far far worse. How utterly horrific, I hope you are OK.

ForGreyKoala · 11/08/2024 23:47

SunOnTheRiver · 11/08/2024 12:00

I think I’d want to know as soon as possible, irrespective of the time.
Also, a lot of firms don’t even bother to let spplicants know when they haven’t been successful at interview and that is worse in my opinion.

I agree. Not hearing anything at all is far worse. I couldn't care less when I got a rejection email.

DonnaBanana · 11/08/2024 23:57

It’s email. Get it when you check in the morning. If you have email sent to notify your phone at a second’s notice that’s on you and a rather unhealthy behaviour at that. All sorts of email can come through at all hours. Read email when you go to check it.

northernsunshine · 11/08/2024 23:58

Totally unhinged behaviour!

Sweetteaplease · 12/08/2024 00:09

Just put your phone on silent and/or turn notifications off. You can control what other people do but you can control what you do

RVEllacott · 12/08/2024 00:19

I wouldnt have a problem with this, Id just want to know ASAP.

Im a bit surprised by the number of people who think its unacceptable to send a recruitment related email outside usual office hours when applying for a new job is generally done outside work hours anyway because you have to write the application and prep for interview while youre at home rather than work. Theres no good time to get disappointing news and arguably its better to get it outside office hours so you dont have to deal with it while at work.

sunburnandsangria · 12/08/2024 00:27

At least you've been told. I've been applying for roles for months now and of all my applications (about 20), I've only had two confirm I haven't made it through (and one of those was after chasing a number of times). Otherwise nada - nothing. If I call to follow up I get waffle about process has started, being considered, then I never hear from them again. I'd have more success yelling into a black hole.

Flowers Commiserations OP. But at least you know now and can start to move on.

happygolurkey · 12/08/2024 00:35

sunburnandsangria · 12/08/2024 00:27

At least you've been told. I've been applying for roles for months now and of all my applications (about 20), I've only had two confirm I haven't made it through (and one of those was after chasing a number of times). Otherwise nada - nothing. If I call to follow up I get waffle about process has started, being considered, then I never hear from them again. I'd have more success yelling into a black hole.

Flowers Commiserations OP. But at least you know now and can start to move on.

So sorry, that’s totally shit. Yeh, job hunting can be so demoralising. Hope things look up for you soon. And, yes, you’re right, at least I know, so have that closure and can move on

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dutysuite · 12/08/2024 01:20

I’m so many responses with excuses. It’s not on and there is a schedule option.

My husband has been approached twice by the same recruiter asking him about a position that is available, twice my husband has replied with interest and twice the recruiter has then ghosted him. Some recruiters are just ignorant and unprofessional.

JMSA · 12/08/2024 01:27

You're best off out of it. Imagine having to work that late!
Better luck next time, and all that Flowers

Nat6999 · 12/08/2024 01:57

murasaki · 11/08/2024 22:59

God, that is far far worse. How utterly horrific, I hope you are OK.

I'm fine, it was 14 years ago now, I haven't seen him for over 5 years now, I've put it to rest & can talk about it now, it took me at least 10 years to accept it happened & I can't change that but I can change how it affects me. I still get a bit shaky around the anniversary & still have the odd nightmare, but that is all.

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