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I know it's bad for you and can cause real health problems but bloody hell, aibu to think everyone looks better with a suntan?

248 replies

Eeepsh · 08/08/2024 17:59

Just that really!

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Wexone · 08/08/2024 19:14

am irish and one of the unusual ones that only has to step outside and I get a colour. however I don't have the patience to sit out and always cover myself in suncream. I do however wear fake tan most weeks. I dunno why everyone saying they hate tan. majority of women in Ireland and the UK wear fake tan and its done well on most so you don't know whats real or not. anyone I know going on hols majority get a spray tan before going. and we are pros at maintaining it

NowImNotDoingIt · 08/08/2024 19:17

AmiablePedant · 08/08/2024 18:06

And the people who are only able to burn and/or turn lobster red? I suspect a lot of sandy-haired Scots out there will be rolling their eyes at your generalization!.

The tan comes after, on the second lot of sun exposure.Grin

Snowless · 08/08/2024 19:17

A bit of a tan/vit D is healthy for me as I have a skin condition that really likes the UV rays. And on recent tests I have vit D deficiency. And I take high dose vit d with k!!

BobnLen · 08/08/2024 19:20

Greategret · 08/08/2024 19:09

Do you know what it feels like with a pathologist dermatologist cutting into your skin to remove a basal cell carcinoma?* * They'll cut as little as they can and hope they get all the cancer on the first go. The wound isn't closed immediately because they are examining the bit they cut out to see if they got clear margins. In my case I had more cut out and then waiting round for that to check if there were clear margins. Only then hours later is the cut stitched closed. A small cirucular cancer leads to a long skinny scar.

This is private and expensive care - its called skin sparing surgery. I gather the NHS just cuts out a chunk for non-melanoma cancers and hopes for the best with a graft when they or may not know for weeks whether they got clear margins because it's cheap and quick. I was lucky because it wasn't melanoma or a squamous cell carcinoma. I was unlucky because as a life long sunscreen wearer and sitting in the shade person I didn't put enough sunscreen round my hairline. (I wear a hat now in the sun.)

The dermatologist told me that when he sees somebody with a tan all he sees is skin damage. He spends a large part of his day dealing with the effects of sun on skin. People die every year from skin cancer. Two thousand or so people in the UK die every year of melanoma. A tan is your skin's desperate attempt to protect itself.

I had one cut out of my thigh, I'm older so scarring not really a problem there fortunately, it was a large incision, I think about 14 stitches and a 10 cm scar and a bit of a dent left in my leg,

TheFormidableMrsC · 08/08/2024 19:21

I fake tan because I love being brown and don't go brown naturally. I also hate sunbathing and would rather protect my skin. My daughter, on the other hand, has flawless porcelain skin and really doesn't need a tan. She's very lucky I think.

SamVan · 08/08/2024 19:22

it depends on your colouring surely? I don’t think I look better with a tan but my husband does. He’s luminescent without one and looks much healthier when he’s got a little bit of colour.

Arrivapercy · 08/08/2024 19:27

My kids and i go a light golden, even with high factor suncream.

Its actually not healthy to completely block sun with factor 50/block 247. You need that sunlight, cultures who cover up a lot, especially those with darker skin, can have a lot of problems with low vitamin D.

During the hottest part of the day its better to be in the shade without suncream that in the direct sun with it. You get vitamin D on bare skin in the shade.

XenoBitch · 08/08/2024 19:31

lovelysunshine22 · 08/08/2024 19:13

Yes they definitely do op! Looking white and pasty is very unattractive.

What side dish would you like to go with your ass?

LuckysDadsHat · 08/08/2024 19:33

I would rather be pale (I'm ginger) and have my health and skin. After seeing what happened to my Nanna's legs from horrific skin cancer it has put me off for life. Massive divets cut out of her legs, that were so painful for her while healing.

I don't even bother with fake tan anymore.

LizzeyBenett · 08/08/2024 19:34

That's what false tan is for

gettingolderbutcooler · 08/08/2024 19:37

Yes!!

Choochoo21 · 08/08/2024 19:48

I look better with a tan but I fake it because it’s healthier and looks better.

But I know lots of people who look better without a tan.

It just depends on the person.

ApplesonTuesdays · 08/08/2024 19:57

I'm very light blonde/blue eyes and usually keep out of the sun. I'm usually in a hat and sunglasses in the summer.

However, I am lucky that I go a really lovely golden colour with minimal effort. I'm on holiday abroad and the moment and was out today in the sun playing with the children (with factor 50 on). I just got ready to go out for the evening. I must admit I do look really healthy looking with a bit of a tan.....

Pandemonium123 · 08/08/2024 20:05

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ohfook · 08/08/2024 20:23

I look 100% better with a tan.

Abhannmor · 08/08/2024 20:40

bryceQ · 08/08/2024 18:01

Mmm i think you can have beautiful skin tones in every shade. The Nicole Kidman type look wouldn't look better tanned.

There are a fair few Nicole types in Ireland. But in general yeah I think a tan improves most ppl. Looks healthy?

anonymous98 · 08/08/2024 20:40

I do. I have olive undertones so look sallow if I become too pale. Additionally, my skin tans really easily.

Do wear SPF 30 and try to be cautious.

anonymous98 · 08/08/2024 20:41

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This is misinfo.

howchildrenreallylearn · 08/08/2024 20:47

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There is a lot of truth in this statement.

UV rays can in theory cause skin cancer but there are many many other factors that raise the risk too. Poor diet, lack of exercise, lack of sleep, stress, alcohol, overuse of cosmetics, smoking etc. And crucially spending too much time indoors!

If you block too much UV from your skin, your health will deteriorate via lack of vitamin D (which is actually a master hormone responsible for heart health, as well as bone health, it also regulates many other cellular functions in your body. Its anti-inflammatory, antioxidant and neuroprotective properties support immune health, muscle function and brain cell activity.) It’s true also that heart attacks increase the further away from the equator you go (& strokes and high blood pressure) and they increase in winter too.

UV rays also increase your bodies levels of nitric oxide which is crucial for us to regulate our blood pressure. They also raise serotonin and other happy hormones and actually protect us against certain other types of cancer.

Obviously safe sun exposure is key. Burning is always bad. But the advice to put on your sunscreen before you go out isn’t always good advice. Humans need UV on our skin for good health. We’ve been taught to fear it but we evolved outdoors.

This article explains it all

https://www.outsideonline.com/health/wellness/sunscreen-sun-exposure-skin-cancer-science/

The Shady Link Between Sunscreen and Your Health

Current guidelines for sun exposure are unhealthy and unscientific, controversial new research suggests—and quite possibly even racist. How did we get it so wrong?

https://www.outsideonline.com/health/wellness/sunscreen-sun-exposure-skin-cancer-science

amymel2016 · 08/08/2024 20:48

Totally agree, I wear sun cream every day but if a tan wasn’t bad for you then I’d be the colour of mahogany sideboard.

OrangeCrusher · 08/08/2024 20:50

I’m ginger and very pale and do not tan even though I have a warm/golden undertone. I look worse with fake tan. I think it’s because my natural skin tone on my arms and legs has a natural luminosity and the tan cancels this out and creates a low contrast between my hair and skin. Low contrast can make you look a bit washed out and dull.

ditalini · 08/08/2024 20:54

LuckysDadsHat · 08/08/2024 19:33

I would rather be pale (I'm ginger) and have my health and skin. After seeing what happened to my Nanna's legs from horrific skin cancer it has put me off for life. Massive divets cut out of her legs, that were so painful for her while healing.

I don't even bother with fake tan anymore.

Yes, luckily our superpower is synthesising vitamin d so we don't need to expose our skin to uv for very long to get the benefit.

(My dad's 6 inch divot in his calf from having the wide local excision of his 2mm deep melanoma put me off for life too - no sunbathing for him, just years of wearing shorts on holiday.)

flowertoday · 08/08/2024 21:05

My beautiful sister died of melanoma. She had spent years abroad, often with a gorgeous looking tan. She wasn't old, would have had years ahead of her .
Now when I see anyone's tan all I can see is an unnecessary risk and a reminder of my own grief and loss.
So no, people don't look better with a tan. To me anyway

PearlSlaghoople · 08/08/2024 21:07

Laiste · 08/08/2024 18:09

I do.
My skin is typical mid sort of white. Not pale enough to be interesting, not olive enough to be interesting.

It shows every bump and scratch as a red blob It gets mottled and weirdly blue in places when i'm cold, and to top it off i bruise really easily Hmm

During spring and early summer i use a fake tan cream on my legs which lasts 3/4 days. I use a tanning spray on my face and shoulders and upper back. Then around now i actually have a tan - yay! - and, yes - i look so much better.

It's not the colour exactly, it's because all the veins and blotches and bruises and scratches (gardening) are less visible. Like a light coat of paint over a dodgy wall.

A light coat of paint over a dodgy wall

Perfect description of a tan for me (knocking 60, blue eyes, with blonde/grey/white hair) It colours over the scars, bumps and bruises and just seems to even everything out!

I usually spray tan my face neck and arms very lightly a couple of times a week in the summer, then I can get away with less make-up. I definitely look better for it.

Blackcats7 · 08/08/2024 21:12

Well if your tan gives you melanoma as it may well do you might feel that the stoma bag you need (after immune related colitis caused by side effects of immunotherapy needed to save your life when the cancer spread to your lungs) is actually not the ideal look. Nor is the three stone weight gain from long courses of steroids. But maybe that’s just me. And fwiw I was never a sunbather but was outside a lot with my horses and got melanoma on my forearm.
Fake tan is the only safe tan.

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