Why is the slaughter of Hindus in Bangladeshi not being reported?

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Twitter is alive with the most awful reporting of Hindus being slaughtered / raped. Children and women before men. Zoo animals being tortured and killed.

But missing from mainstream reporting? 💔

YABU for posting this thread here instead of the board set up for it.

It's a war. The latest iteration kicked off following atrocities committed by Hamas and supporters on 7th October 2023. If any other country had been attacked like Israel was on 7th October 2023, and people taken as hostages, the world would expect that country to respond with force. But Israel is held to a different standard by the "Free Palestine" protesters and their many supporters. You really have to ask, why is that?

Both sides are responsible for war crimes. But, again, if Israel is trying to commit genocide then they're particularly bad at it if the population of Palestine is going up, and not down. That's just illogical.

I'm not going to derail the thread.

agreed, that's not a good idea

but fgs own it, it was your comment on "genocide" that began any derailing here

I'll be happy to discuss the genocide investigation in the Middle East sub forum.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5137416-its-not-genocide

Muslims have slaughtered Hindus. Hindus have slaughtered Muslims.
Sunni Muslims have slaughtered Shia Muslims. Shia Muslims HS Sunni Muslims. Protestant Christians HS Catholic Christians. Catholic Christians HS Protestant Christians. Jews HS Muslims. Muslims HS Jews
Christians HS slaughtered Jews. Christians HS Muslims. Muslims HS Christians. Native American tribes slaughtered each other. Maori tribes slaughtered each other. And so on.

Humans are tribal and men are violent.

Western style democracy seems to minimise it ... but it's a never ending struggle to keep the peace and stop the violent tribalism breaking out. See the UK now. So Elon Musk and his mates should read a bit of history and have some humility and compassion before they type.

One of the first exercises in my seminars on genocide was to come up with a defence and denial of genocide.

And this post is EXACTLY the genocidal denial playbook.

I'm part Jewish btw.

I'm not going to derail the thread.

too late for that!

Yes, know them. And I also know how much media lies are spread on an anti-BJP propaganda. You need to get your facts from the common man living in India, not the "liberal" media

I have managed to avoid the videos that some accounts on X are sharing. I don't want the images of women and children tied up, raped and killed in my brain. That then get uploaded to fucking tiktok to incite further violence.

Because little is reported on the news about South Asia on the whole unless impacting the west

But it has been reported on

Probably because Jews aren’t to blame.

And there in lies the absolute truth I’m afraid

It's most unfortunate then that the facts are getting in the way of your claim of genocide.

A population on which genocide is being practiced would necessarily decrease. Because... genocide. The fact that the Palestinian population has a steady documented increase does rather tend to get in the way of your claim.

To cry "genocide denial" is weak and pathetic. Facts matter.

To be clear, my comments on this situation should not be interpreted as me thinking Israel = all good. War crimes have been documented, have been committed by the IDF. Absolutely. But genocide is a huge claim to make and the data does not support it.

This is grossly offensive and inaccurate. A genocide is not defined by how many die. It is defined by intent. The Bosnian massacre of 8 000 Muslims Bosnians has been declared a genocide. Get your facts right.

I know my history very well, thank you.Do you think Hindus should not have stood up to fight back and retaliate when they were seeing trainloads of dead bodies coming into India? Britain has a lot to answer for, for creating conditions ripe for murder.
Sri Lanka situation is a fight for liberation and self-determination. Irish troubles anyone?
The anti BJP, anti Modi, anti Hindu narrative is exactly the nonsense misinformation by so-called Liberal media that Hindus are fed up of. Ask yourself, how BJP got elected for the 3rd time in the world's largest democratic election? Brits can't even accept the result of the Brexit referendum or the Scottish independence referendum, so there's no need to lecture India about democracy

Haha, which planet are you living on? You clearly have never lived in India

Definition of genocide: the intentional action to destroy a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group in whole or in part.

The Srebrenica massacre in 1995 killed 8,000 Bosnian Muslims. That was only one episode, albeit one of the most horrific, in the genocide of Bosnian Muslims.

The 1991 census recorded approximately 1.9 million Bosnian Muslims in Bosnia and Herzegovina. The war and genocide, through deaths and displacement, resulted in a significant reduction in the Bosnian Muslim population within the country. By the time of the 2013 census, the number of Bosnian Muslims in Bosnia and Herzegovina was recorded at around 1.77 million.

Genocide meant their numbers declined.

Facts. Right.

Developments in Bangladesh are being reported on the International wires (for example, here's the Reuters feed) but I agree, other stories have pushed this down so it is not in headline news in many outlets. There's coverage, but you have to look for it. Agree with PPs that this plays out similarly with other ongoing conflicts such as Nigeria - but the situation in Bangladesh is evolving so fast right now that it's surprising it isn't headline news.

Oh which genocide do you think they are supporting then.

Well she did say generally. Would you consider that Muslims are generally peace loving people? Because if you do then I could say 'seriously have you not heard of.....' and name at least six or seven barbaric Islamist groups without having to think very hard at all.

I’ve seen press reports but not headline news stuff. Maybe if it escalated further, it will get greater coverage. Historically, Asia doesn’t generate the kind of coverage you would expect if there was similar trouble in the Middle East or America. But to be fair most of the world is largely a news footnote. We don’t hear much on Latin America, much on Europe outside of ‘old Europe’ and Ukraine/Russia. Caribbean, Australia etc etc. it’s not just Asia that’s ignored.

Also there seems to be some anger here that people are anti- Indian government. Again I don’t think most people without a direct connection pay it much mind. People get swallowed into Twitter and social media and think certain sentiment is much bigger than it is in real life.

Personally I think the UK has a lot of shit of its own to deal with, and we’re already in a wrangle regarding the ME and Russia/Ukraine. There’s no appetite to get involved in Indian politics as well. I’m also uncomfortable with the conflation of anti-semitism with anti-BJP beliefs. They are no way alike. It’s pretty offensive. What is meant by ‘liberal’ in this context anyway?

I have seen reports of uprising and an interim government in the Guardian.
But not much regarding ethnic violence.
May it be because of the UK riots taking quite a bit of our headspace, tbh?

Sudan is the forgotten war of the world almost nothing reported.

Not much about how things are going in Ukraine lately, though there is an article today. I suppose it dropped from the list during the attention given to the riots, too.

You know the answer. We all know the answer.

An impoverished population (as the Palestinians are), so long as they have sufficient resources to do the bare minimum of sustaining and increasing their population, will often experience much higher birth rates than economically developed ones for a variety of reasons, from low rates of effective birth control to sheer necessity--where family groups have a better chance of surviving long-term having produced more children.
It's just a complex reaction of a human population in response to poor material conditions.
Anyway, this is derailing so I will stop.