To be annoyed that Twitter never takes action on reported tweets?

[TiredArse]

Over the last few days I’ve reported numerous blatantly racist and abusive tweets. Every single one has come back saying it’s not broken the rules. How? What on earth do you have to do to get them to take any action?

It’s a fucking cesspit since Musk took over.

There's nothing wrong with free speech in regard to open debate.

"I hope you fucking burn in a house fire, you black bitch," is not open debate, it's literally a racist threat made against me, and yes, I reported it, and no, Twitter/X did fuck all about it.

So we should allow people to make racist (sexist, disablist, abusive etc) comments because if we don’t they might get more racist?

That is bollocks. Allowing it to go unchecked emboldens them.

Debate is fine. Abuse is not.

You didn’t answer my question though.

Do think that blocking these comments make them go away? As in solve the problem?

I think the algos have changed in the last year or so. Before I came off it, I was being served more and more racist/offensive shit that I was blocking like there was no tomorrow, never engaging with (except to block) and was so far away from the stuff I was seeking, such as dog behavioural videos etc.

It was my genuine suspicion that Twitter was now TRYING to serve me controversial views that made me delete it.

You mean if Twitter deletes with a message saying this isn’t acceptable for x reason? Yes, I think it does help. It’s not going to solve the problem completely, but it reinforces that abuse is not acceptable.

If someone said it in real life, say at work or school, would you just ignore?

I think you’re right. I see so much less of the fun, interesting stuff I follow, and far too much deeply unpleasant content. And I also don’t interact other than to report or block.

Just stop using the platform. If enough people did that then something would have to change.

Fair enough… and thanks for answering.

If someone said it in real life, say at work or school, would you just ignore?

I’d probably call them a knob and move on with my life knowing who they were. If they hadn’t said it out loud I’d never know what they really thought.

Here’s what I’m thinking… so you’ve got a group of friends having lunch. One of them says something racist. Would you rather know that’s how they felt or would you rather not know? Me I’d rather know and make an informed choice about spending time with them. The problem with not giving them a space to say stupid things, I’ll never know how they feel. Either way they’ll be racist.

The thread going on right now about a poster who wants ammunition against her misogynistic brother is a great example… because he’s been allowed to say twatty things she now can decide if she wants to confront him, educate him, cut him off, etc. If she didn’t know he had those views he’d still have them, right?

Bravo @Sparklybutold for speaking the absolute TRUTH.

You will get flamed for that on here. You can only have one view on MN or you are torn apart.
There is no real debate and no democracy.
People cannot say how they really feel, and MN is just one tiny part of a far bigger picture of course.
All my trips to China and those experiences are beginning to be reflected in life in the UK.
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You choosing not to spend more time with your friend is the real life version of closing someone’s account on Twitter though. In both cases they’ve said something inappropriate and nobody wants to hear their crap anymore.

What is it that you want to say?

I agree but start of this was Twitter blocking/deleting/etc. not about users deleting their accounts.

Twitter used to ban people if they were repeatedly abusive. Now the don’t even delete posts if they threaten violence.

@TiredArse Whats the problem?

Facebook never takes action either, it's a cesspit of misogyny amongst other things.

Yes I know… that’s not what I was asking.

Do you want to know if people are abusive or do you want it hidden (on Twitter, FB, or real life)?

Engage with posts you want to see more of and don’t engage with posts (including hate engagement) you don’t want to see.
It’s an algorithm, it’s not hard.

People who have been on the wrong side of twitter censorship - including women who were banned under previous twitter administrations for saying men were men - value Musk’s commitment to free speech.

What alogrithms are you on? @TiredArse Twitter keeps sending me cats & fessholes, yet to find the cesspit levels

I get a lot of otters.

Facebook the same.

Before I came off it, I was being served more and more racist/offensive shit that I was blocking like there was no tomorrow, never engaging with (except to block) and was so far away from the stuff I was seeking, such as dog behavioural videos etc.

This is the exact opposite of my experience. They're definitely engagement farming but the algorithm kinda works for me - I get more of the stuff I interact with and less of the stuff I block. I do have to be careful about how much I interact with inoffensive people I disagree with though.

Otters with their fur & paws

Absolutely agree. This is exactly whats happened in recent years, where a lot of voices have been silenced and now we have the consequences of that. Its built up pressure that will finally find a way out.

Do you think people should ever face consequences for abuse and threats?