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Do lots of people have these sorts of savings? Or am I bloody right?!

383 replies

moneuapme · 06/08/2024 10:59

I feel like utter shit after a meal with friends at the weekend. We all have decent jobs but I am still a long way down the ladder after re training. We don’t usually talk about money but will go to nice places for a dinner etc which I can afford easily too. But it turns out that 4 out of the other five of them are saving between 1k to 1,500 a month and already have over 50k savings?! The other woman there said she has no savings and I just said I had some but not that much. The truth is I have 2k to my name and save around 150 a month usually. I earn 53k. I feel really stressed and worried about the future now as I have nowhere near the security they are talking about. I have tried to keep telling myself this week that that’s surely unusual but is it? Have I just massively fucked up somewhere? Last week I felt really content and lucky and now I just feel like a failure.

OP posts:
Outliers · 06/08/2024 12:14

I earn a little less than you. I have a very large savings pot (circa 45k) and an investment portfolio that's just as large (40K-ish).

But I come from humble beginnings so learnt to live way below means. So have had a strong saving habit since I entered workforce - trait taking on from one parent who was exceptionally tight, and another who was a tad frivolous.

For context I'm not rich at all, I definitely earn less than a lot of my peers. I'm 2nd gen immigrant I'm in early 30s, have 2 small children, and a 2 bed house in greater London.

I'm trying to change my habits to try and enjoy life more. I just know what it's like to have nothing and I'm scared of going back pr subjecting my children to that.

Forgive the life story. I guess point is, you can do a lot with a little.

Allthislovelygreen · 06/08/2024 12:15

I save £800 a month on a £30k wage and don't live a scrimpy kind of life. What's your monthly budget for everything?

Campcritters · 06/08/2024 12:15

@Outliers what are your housing and childcare costs?

Campcritters · 06/08/2024 12:17

@Allthislovelygreen what are your housing costs?

BenchyMcBenchFace · 06/08/2024 12:17

Not comparable unless we know:

  • how old you all are
  • in which city you and they live
  • are you all home owners
  • do you all have pension pots
  • are you all employed or self-employed
  • are you all single or married/equivalent
  • do any of you have children
  • Are you all of independent financial means or has family money been involved

Only when we know all of those things can we start to make comparisons, and let you know if your comparisons are reasonable or not.

SevenMarshmallows · 06/08/2024 12:17

As many have said, there are too many factors to give a simple, one-size-fits-all answer, but personally, I would look into ways to save more, where possible. However, I have a strongly saving-focused mindset, passed on from my parents, who are still more frugal than I am.

There are so many who have no independent savings at all, but just because it's common doesn't mean it's good. It may not be possible for everyone to save much, or every month, but those who can should give themselves a buffer against hard(er) times and rainy days.

LouH5 · 06/08/2024 12:18

showersandflowers · 06/08/2024 12:09

As a household we save £2k a month, with a monthly household income of about £4.5k. If I earned as much as you I'd be putting at least £1500-£2000 away a month (but that just me, I've always been addicted to saving).

I earn pretty much the same as OP and it works out at around £2700pm (after tax, student loan, pension etc has been deducted).

Would be impossible to save £1500-2000 and pay rent/mortgage, bills, car, groceries etc as well! Assuming OP is living alone (as I am) and has no second income to help with all these bills.

Devilsmommy · 06/08/2024 12:20

Well you're doing better than me. We live on £1500 a month and have zero savings. Don't even own our home, never likely to be in a position to buy🤷 I'd stop comparing and be happy that you're doing better than a lot of people nowadays

Newbie8918 · 06/08/2024 12:20

Comparison is the thief of joy......honestly.

Savings vary depending on what's happening at the time.

I personally save £300 per month into a work share scheme. This is the maximum allowed.

I have a pension which I save into

I have instant access savings and the amount varies, depending on what it's for (holidays, home improvements etc) I access this whenever I need to.

We reduced the term on our mortgage a few years ago and blitzed it. It allowed us to purchase our dream home which is a wreck, so lots of extra money into renovations at the moment.

As others have said, it totally depends on your circumstances, disposable income etc. accept that things change and aim to save more if it makes you feel better.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 06/08/2024 12:21

mateysmum · 06/08/2024 12:02

Yes it is judgy, and I make no apology for that. There are many people who can't afford to save because everything they have is eaten up just getting by and everyone deserves to spend money to have pleasure in their lives Everyone has a different threshold for where they feel comfortable on the savings versus spending scale and that's fine. However, I think there is a basic level of security that everybody who can, should maintain and if you don't have that then you have to make choices about other things. But, that is my opinion, clearly others disagree. But when they lose their job, or the car or the boiler breaks what then?

And so OP not yet being able to maintain that security level that you feel is basic, and asking for advice on it means that you can make her feel worse?

You weren't helpful. You were nasty.

Allthislovelygreen · 06/08/2024 12:21

Campcritters · 06/08/2024 12:17

@Allthislovelygreen what are your housing costs?

@Campcritters £700/month

Magnastorm · 06/08/2024 12:24

If you are on 30k, that's a take-home of what, 2k a month?

So 800 savings, 700 housing leaves 500 to cover transport, food, insurances, pensions and just general day to day living. Not many people can realistically do that.

Fact is, anyone who is putting away something each month is ahead of the game.

Outliers · 06/08/2024 12:25

Campcritters · 06/08/2024 12:15

@Outliers what are your housing and childcare costs?

Currently they're very high due high interest rates and we pay for nursery (4 half days - sometimes more depending on work).

Obviously savings helped weather cost of living challenges, though it hasn't been easy. I'm on maternity leave recently, so able to reduce childcare costs for now.

I'm hoping things will get easier once children are eligible for funded childcare hours and we remortgage to lower interet rates in a year or 2.

For further context - partner is not a high earner either (about same as me) - but also comes from humble beginnings so is an aggressive saver.

Campcritters · 06/08/2024 12:25

@Allthislovelygreen so you save £800 & spend £700 on housing. The remains £500 covers transport, pension, food, utilities, insurance? Wow!

User7171 · 06/08/2024 12:27

My own position: single, no kids, 53, no mortgage, no loans, no credit card debts, etc. Essentially I owe not a single penny to anyone and don't have expensive tastes.

Salary £96k gross but I net £6.1k per month as I have a very high tax code due to my pension contributions.

Of the 6k net, I pay £2.5k per month into my private pension and £1.7k per month into my ISA (making the full £20k ISA per year).

Bills, food, clothes, car insurance & tax, socialising, etc., only comes to £1.1k per month, so I also save the other £800 or so left but will spend that on holidays, car & home maintenance, etc.

However... I have a colleague on pretty much exactly the same salary but who will net more like £5.4k as they don't pay extra into their pension. They're married but are the only earner in the house and they have 2 DC, a mortgage, etc. etc.

I would be surprised if they're able to save very much at all from the same gross salary.

There is no point comparing yourself to anyone else, OP, as everyone is living a different life.

Campcritters · 06/08/2024 12:27

Currently they're very high due high interest rates and we pay for nursery (4 half days - sometimes more depending on work).

They can’t be very high if you are living off 2.5k…

TaylorSwish · 06/08/2024 12:27

A big factor in this is what makes you happy. My in laws have huge savings, they never spend anything, they have poor health and tight fugal. My mum who is 5 years old than them said she’s not saving at all, she wants to be out with her friends for brunch and weekends away while she is fortunate enough to be able to do it.

mateysmum · 06/08/2024 12:27

Beezknees · 06/08/2024 12:08

I rent so my boiler breaking isn't my responsibility. Don't have a car and if I lost my job I'd get JSA and housing benefit. Would be pretty shit but I'd survive.

I get UC so I'm only allowed a certain amount of savings anyway or they just reduce my UC.

So you'd expect me to pay for your benefits via my taxes, including tax on my savings.
Not saying benefits is a an easy life, but.....

VividQuoter · 06/08/2024 12:27

It is all about budgeting and having cheaper lifestyle , otherwise you cannot save that much

EdithArtois · 06/08/2024 12:27

I have spent 10 years building a pot of 20 k the majority of which will shortly be spent in new windows/roof and my car will need replacing shortly. So I’m not building a pot long term.

ChubSeedsYorkie · 06/08/2024 12:27

Just had a baby. Pre baby we have over £2k a month left to save. Now with nursery fees it’ll be a lot less as I’ll go part time and £750ish for nursery.

I think it just depends what stage you are at in life really and what age you have kids, mortgage size, family money.

Campcritters · 06/08/2024 12:28

Obviously savings helped weather cost of living challenges, though it hasn't been easy. I'm on maternity leave recently, so able to reduce childcare costs for now.

So you’re on maternity leave so don’t need as much childcare? Do you earn more when not on maternity?

midgetastic · 06/08/2024 12:28

Average savings uk is over 11k

Average savings by age can also be found online

Averages across the whole county will be more reliable than a small sample of mnetters

boysmuminherts · 06/08/2024 12:28

it depends what you mean by savings..... my friend said she saves x amount per month.... then she also said she spends it on her car insurance/holidays. That isn't saving to me. Its reallocating spending.
I think saving is what you don't touch. @showersandflowers I'd be interested if from that amount you save - do you touch it for a new car etc?

mateysmum · 06/08/2024 12:29

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 06/08/2024 12:21

And so OP not yet being able to maintain that security level that you feel is basic, and asking for advice on it means that you can make her feel worse?

You weren't helpful. You were nasty.

Crikey, talk about a leap of logic. I simply pointed out that she could make choices within the resources she has. That is my advice.

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