To think I’m someone who will never lose weight?

[AugMummy]

I’m really annoyed with myself, I spent lots of money on slim fast products to lose the weight but as I couldn’t stick to it even one day it’s been a waste. Been on and off slim fast for 10 months-1 year and kept torturing myself. I then decide to just eat healthy that lasted 2 days and I was gorging myself.

This morning I started my keto after lots of research and got all the necessary foods in. I did well in the morning I had a lovely vegetable omlette and was feeling full. Had lots of water as recommended too. Took kids to park after breakfast and saw ice cream truck and just had to have one! I then came home upset with myself and had a croissant and now just finished 3 penguins. Why can’t I stick to any diet what the hell is wrong with me? Should I just give up as I’ll always be fat as I have zero willpower.

I must say that when i cut back on white flour/wheat items, unless someone is not eating lots of that, then they can look at other parts of their diet.
So it meant less bread, pizza, crackers, biscuits etc pain au chocolates lol crossaints etc, my clothes hang differently.

Good thing you ditched slim fast and decided to eat healthy instead. I’m fairly certain slim fast is a swiz.

As others have said you need to work on managing your cravings and also the all or nothing mentality. I know you were upset you ate an ice cream but just an ice cream
would of done less damage than an ice cream, a croissant and 3 penguins (as I’m sure you know).
Is there some way you can just draw a line under it if you have a slip up in future?

Have you ever been assesssed for pcos / insulin resistence ?

Have a look at this guy's stuff. He's a nutritionist with a history of emotional eating and talks a lot about being kind to yourself and understanding that hating yourself for doing something that's way more complicated than just being strict with yourself as it's tied up in so many other things. His food recommendations are really simple, bit of what you like, no faddy super ingredients, make your goals something that's achievable https://www.instagram.com/joshuahillsnutrition?igsh=MTZ5eDI3aXluNTc5MQ==

It sounds like you're trying to follow specific diets that are all about denying yourself the stuff you want. These clearly don't work for you. Just do simple healthy eating/calories counting.

Your other problem seems to be having a strop and throwing the baby out with the bath water when you have a slip up. You need to get out of the mindset that it has to be all or nothing. It's about each individual decision over a long period of time, not one ice-cream. The truth is a veggie omelette and then an ice cream is fine, followed by a healthy lunch and dinner. There was no need to have a food tantrum with yourself. The binging comes as a result of denying yourself stuff/trying to follow impossible rules.

From tomorrow focus on each individual decision and try to make that as healthy as possible. At the end of the week you'll inevitably have made more healthy choices that you would have otherwise. Probably not all healthy choices, maybe not even 50% but that's fine, it's small steps in the right direction. Small gains.

You don't want to lose weight enough to put in the work....

We are hard wired to want the fatty, sugary, high calorie stuff. You need to change your relationship with food.
I've always been able to manage my weight but since DC I've not been the priority. Like you I did a day or two here and there. I recently weighed myself and was shocked. This was enough to prioritise the weight loss..

Yes, this is what happened to me too!

I disagree. You can still overeat. You can over drink. My mindset had changed before I went on Mountjaro. It still slips but I have reminded myself now that my health has to come before the extra glass of wine. The Mountjaro was added to support those decisions.

Come off the mounjaro then?

Waiting to get bashed here from the mumsnet police….
i think some people just aren’t quite wired correctly when it comes to food. I eat despite knowing I should be full (I rarely am). I binge. It’s not just that I want it, it’s compulsive and consistent. Food dominates my thoughts. The only way I seem to loose weight naturally is through an extreme crash diet. I once lost quite a bit on slimming world once but was breast feeding at the time. Put it all back on afterwards.
the only thing that’s really helped is semiglutide. I don’t think that anyone that hasn’t had a significant binge problem can fully understand. Once I was on that drug, the food was no longer compulsive. I could eat, feel full, stop and not need anything else. Food no longer dominated my thoughts.
I stopped because I lost the weight, because of the cost and because I’m worried about long term health implications of pumping chemicals into your body (I’d weighed this up against being obese when I first started and felt the fatness was more likely to kill me than the chemicals). I’ve put a bit back on and am considering taking it again.
Sorry that’s probably not want you want to hear.

Why do you care whether she's on Mounjaro or not, @SunQueen24 ? It's working for her, she's getting slimmer and healthier, why take such a lecturing tone?

Read my posts. I don’t care at all and am of the view that mounjaro seems like a revolutionary tool for weightloss and treating our obesity epidemic. But I think it’s disingenuous to suggest that the “change in mindset” has occurred organically and is not a direct result of the poster using mounjaro. Her post is written like OP can just have this mindset shift like she has done. Which isn’t a true representation of her circs.

No mention of exercise OP?

Try waking for 20 mins a day and build it up - use the car less, walk the kids to school/shop/park

Every step helps.

I will do when I want to. Come off your high horse then?

Try mounjaro you won't be able to overeat 😂
Also the cost alone would 100 % make me think about everything I stuck in my mouth 🤷‍♀️

I spent lots of money on slim fast products to lose the weight but as I couldn’t stick to it even one day it’s been a waste.

And this, right here, is your problem. Sticking to fad diets and crap when you could eat delicious and nutritious food. Also, exercise is super important and I truly believe that anyone can find a form of exercise to enjoy.

I’m not misrepresenting my own reality on my high horse.

I was a chronic yo yo dieter until I read the book, ‘How To Eat Your Cake & Wear Your Skinny Jeans Too’. It explains why diets don’t work for the majority of people, I had so many light bulb moments whilst reading it. You basically have to tell yourself that you will never go on a diet again, and really believe it. Then once your body is out of that scarcity mindset from constant diet attempts, you listen to your body. Eat when you’re hungry and stop when you’re full. It sounds too good to be true but I’ve lost 2 stone and kept it off. I don’t even think about food now, and don’t have any cravings.

If you have to have the Penguins in the house, for the kids or whatever, can your husband or one of the older kids hide them? I'm trying to lose weight by calorie counting atm, and my husband puts the biscuits out of sight and reach on the top shelf of the cupboard. I know they're there but can't be arsed to get the stepladder to get them!

It took me 8 years to stop smoking.

In regards to diet, the way I did a reset was to start with continuing everything I was doing but eliminating one thing that I ate to excess, which was icecream.

Then went like this (just typibg out what worked for me in retrospect).

Find a healthy alternative like greek yoghurt and Berries with nuts. The point of this phase isn't to lose weight, its to wean you off sugar.

Continue to allow some kind of treat in a small format, daily square of dark choc etc.

Replace other unhealthy things, if it's crisps choose healthy crackers or breadsticks instead. Something you don't like enough to binge on. The point again is to wean yourself off processed foods.

Crowd in veggies and healthier foods.

Then introduce calorie counting. Just do a small 100-200 calorie deficit.

You can probably keep going for 8-12 weeks of steady weight loss like this. Then you are on a roll!

Then to continue to lose weight after this cut calories further and exercise more. Only do this if you actually still have weight to lose. That's when something like fasting 5/2 or F800 might help. These are not sustainable ways of eating but they are based on the Mediterranean diet which is a good exit plan anyway.

Also track everything. Don't beat yourself up, it's a process and I think August is probably a hard month to start dieting, this time of year generally is hard as I think the body is hard wired to think this is harvest season.

I also really like the non diet approach. When I'd finished reaching my ideal weight which was a killer at the end, I started weight training and that's when I really understood how it works - we actually often need to eat more not less in order to get rid of junk food. We are just searching for calories with junk food.

Get on Wegovy / mounjaro if you can afford it. I lost over 3 stone pretty easily on it and am maintaining without it now. It gave me the space I needed to get into a really healthy routine. I found that so hard to do when I was constantly starving and miserable.

Could have written this myself op x

@HardMaths was it just wheat or did you limit other grains too? I tried eliminating wheat and substituting other grains and it didn't help too much, however the days I had no grain at all I had less craving. It's unbelievable how it kicks in, I am genuinely hungrier after a meal than before if I have grains but I'm not sure how to live without. I made my own oat bread for months, I think it was a waste of time.

OP can I ask what weight or size are you? A heavy woman has different needs to someone who needs to lose a recently acquired 10lbs.